Site Information
About Us
- RonPaulForums.com is an independent grassroots outfit not officially connected to Ron Paul but dedicated to his mission. For more information see our Mission Statement.
For the most part, the censorship and bans at Facebook and Twitter relate to relevant and real criticism of government, often from a libertarian perspective. Shouldn’t Daniel McAdams be able to “lambast back”?
And just because Trump blocks someone on Twitter, it does not stop them from Tweeting about Trump as much as they want...
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Indeed, the government can regulate the behavior of its own employees however it likes.
If they want to require the President to do a break-dance every morning on the White House lawn, they can do that.
If a person doesn't like the terms of employment, he need not apply for the job.
https://knightcolumbia.org/sites/def...20judgment.pdfThis case requires us to consider whether a public official may, consistent with the First Amendment, “block” a person from his Twitter account in response to the political views that person has expressed, and whether the analysis differs because that public official is the President of the United States. The answer to both questions is no.
The only TDS here is yours.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Lol. Who do you think you are fooling?
And you dishonestly ignore the entire point. It doesn’t matter who it supposedly applies to (and we’ll see how that is enforced in the future), this would not have come up, and probably would have been thrown right out of court if not for your precious demon Trump.
Twitter didn’t just come into being yesterday. For many years, people used it as a badge of honor when a politician or pundit blocked them. It wasn’t until Trump that hysterical TDS inflicted leftist snowflakes starting crying about it. Quit yer whining and be a man!
Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 10-19-2018 at 04:05 PM.
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
From Ron Paul, at the 5 minute mark:
“The more I think about it, the more my conclusion is that these corporations need more charges made against them as being part of the government than working hard to protect their rights as an independent company. They’re not an independent company. If you look at the way they were established, if you look at their contracts, their immunity...they break their contract, if you sue them, they have immunity, just like government has immunity.”
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
Hegalian Dialectic - Problem Reaction Solution
The whole narrative is Argument Bait intended to keep us fighting amonst ourselves instead of considering REAL solutions, such as Free Market and supporting Uncensored Platforms. They work BACKWARDS. They WANT power to Censor Websites at the highest level. That is their goal. They want to ELIMINATE FREE SPEECH, but for that to happen, they create Problems to which the Reaction is to call for MORE GOVT as the SOLUTION.
Think backwards on that. To get a Solution that allows Govt to tell everyone "Ban these people but not those", they need the perception of support from as many as possible. To get that support, they do everything in their power to show that "Free Speech Is Bad". To do that, going backwards, they artifically manufacture a Problem. They are about to get their Solution, where Admins and Private Site Owners are forced to abide by the SCOTUS ruling.
Free Speech must be protected. But what they are offering us to protect our Free Speech will have the exact OPPOSITE result.
Second thing to note is the COMMUNIST approach to the solution, the ELIMINATION OF PRIVATE PLATFORMS, so everything is Govt run, owned, operated, and regulated into oblivion. The Law is being exploited to eliminate competition of websites that truly do NOT Censor based on political views.
Free Speech does need to be protected, and we know we cant trust Govt to give us a meaningful solution. Calling for Free Speech on Facebook and YouTube is us trying to tell Facebook and Google how to operate their websites and what we want from them. We all get pissed off and are pretty much trained to fall into the Hegalian Dialectic of Problem Reaction Solution so we call for Govt Intervention, which is what they want. Im human, and even Im subject to being manipulated.
The best solution is to stop using Facebook and YouTube to promote yourself or your business. Those that are left we know would end up being those that support Censorship, such as MSM. They still intend to put in place a License to post anything on the Internet. This is just a small step towards that goal. But what does a License mean? Free Speech on the Internet is PROHIBITED BY DEFAULT, unless you are granted Permission to speak. Speak in favor of your oppressors and you will be granted a License, maybe. Speak in condemnation of your oppressors and you have no chance of getting that License. This is Mass Psychology and Population Control. And there are plenty of contingency plans in place in the event this plan fails.
Open uncensored communication enables others to hear opposing views which promotes Critical Thinking. The greatest danger to the Status Quo is those who openly identify their methods of manipulation which enables more people to learn how to mount a meaningful defense against their Mass Psychology. This is nothing more than control over a persons Beliefs in the Belief Money Violence paradigm. Control what is said to control the minds of the observers. Flat out Mind Control, using Mass Psychology and the Hegalian Dialectic.
1776 > 1984
The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.
The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide
Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled
Myself, evidently.
Is that because of TDS or because of Trump? If attention whoring on Twitter were not such a central aspect of Trump's presidency, it wouldn't have come up. Official use of social media has become important because those officials have made it important.
Says the guy who has liberty in his username and who, despite that, is arguing for nationalization of private enterprise because of bans.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Although the quote was used to imply that, if you listen to it in context, it's clear that neither of them are suggesting additional regulation.
"We're seeing the US government, and especially the elites in washington, essentially outsourcing the job of being the jackbooted thugs shutting down newspapers, outsourcing that to this kind of amorphous pseudo-private sector..."
"If we can retain that amount of freedom, the freedom of expression where you can compete, even with the government, I think that we can survive it all. But, right now, it's a little shaky; maybe it's good that we wake up now and look at this before a lot more people suffer from the consequence of government regulation and closing down our right to express ourselves."
The quote was:
“The more I think about it, the more my conclusion is that these corporations need more charges made against them as being part of the government than working hard to protect their rights as an independent company. They’re not an independent company. If you look at the way they were established, if you look at their contracts, their immunity...they break their contract, if you sue them, they have immunity, just like government has immunity.”
The point is this is all more nuanced and complicated than trolls like you make it out to be. The solutions are complicated, none of us know what to do.
But you trolls keep cheering on these companies for shutting people like Alex Jones down, when essentially, they were following the instructions the government gave them to shut them down which is a violation of free speech... and you are rooting it on. Then you pretend to be for free speech. It's all a $#@!ing farce and we can see right through you.
Last edited by dannno; 10-19-2018 at 05:12 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
..The point is this is all more nuanced and complicated than trolls like you make it out to be. The solutions are complicated, none of us know what to do.
But you trolls keep cheering on these companies for shutting people like Alex Jones down, when essentially, they were following the instructions the government gave them to shut them down which is a violation of free speech... and you are rooting it on. Then you pretend to be for free speech. It's all a $#@!ing farce and we can see right through you.
What I do know, is that we shouldn't do nothing and allow people like Alex Jones to get shut down when we know this is the government violating their free speech.
You're cheering it on, so why listen to you?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Last edited by dannno; 10-19-2018 at 06:12 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Yep. It's his template. TheCount is an extreme progressive. He voted Obama twice. He voted Hillary 2016. He is posting here on behalf of the Open Society Foundations. If I am wrong, then he is welcome to refute it.
Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members
Already decided back in 1946.
SCOTUS ruled that even on private property, you still have First Amendment protections.
Marsh V. Alabama
Be curious to see if he responds.
What say ye @TheCount ?
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
We we have so many progressives here trying to use ideal libertarian arguments against us. Being a realist does not mean your goal is against libertarianism . The current system needs repair, even if those repairs temporarily are not a purists libertarian society. That is why Rand Paul gets so much flack here. Ron is the goal, but politicians like Rand might get us there.
Last edited by Danke; 10-19-2018 at 08:50 PM.
Pfizer Macht Frei!
Openly Straight Man, Danke, Awarded Top Rated Influencer. Community Standards Enforcer.
Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!
Short Income Tax Video
The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes
The Federalist Papers, No. 15:
Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Connect With Us