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Well I think the people who think a globalist government would some how provide us more freedom is quite small, but there is also a "purist" contingent who doesn't seem to have any desire to promote government harm reduction.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rchapulco-2020
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
The snowflakes replying to the tweet are so snowflakey I can't help but think they aren't even real people to be honest
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police
We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
- Edward R. Murrow
...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.
How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
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It doesn't matter, really, since those same billions of dollars that would have gone to the WHO for distribution are just funneled directly to WHO/GAVI vaccine companies now. Another $1.6 billion handed out to Novavax yesterday. A company that literally has never brought a product to market (not one) and was a $5 junk stock 6 months ago is now a $100 share and loaded up with looted Treasury money. $1.2 billion handed to AstraZeneca already. Then there's the obvious stock fraud that Moderna was allowed to perform, where Trump's "vaccine czar" dumped shares and options based on a fraudulent vaccine report, while the SEC looks the other way.
And we're still paying the WHO and we are NOT "withdrawn" from it, either, since it doesn't take effect until 2021, after Trump and his clan have disappeared with their mega-billions in looted money from various gov programs and stock market manipulation.
No, the Paris Accord is still in effect until the day after Trump is gone. Easily verified. The TPP and Agenda 2030 were shoved into the USMCA and sold as an "improved" NAFTA. Don't you ever get tired of lying day-after-day for the organized criminals? Probably not, because I'm sure you're paid to post here day after day out of the stolen loot.
I miss the days when posters here were smart enough to know when the Beltway crowd was pissing on their heads and telling them it's raining soda pop. Seems far off promises of panacea from the usual suspects still work on some, though.
Last edited by devil21; 07-08-2020 at 03:13 AM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
You should have been taken to a Ron Paul video posted at Stansberry Research:
Try www.ronpaulmessage5.com
Not meant as a slur, merely a statement of fact: Ron Paul is making advertisements for Porter Stansberry.
I happen to regard Stansberry as a crank, and I also have a sour taste in my mouth at Doomatarian and Collapsatarian financial prognostications in general, especially after some folks I know who were utterly ruined taking such advice as gospel.
Everybody has to make a living I suppose, but it displeases me that Ron chooses to hustle this fellow's products.
But, as I mentioned, at least he's smart enough to make a buck off it.
Last edited by Anti Federalist; 07-08-2020 at 04:37 AM.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
I couldn't agree more. I am a libertarian philosophically but as a party or political movement, libertarians are inept. There are furries out there wearing plastic ears that are more effective with action.
I will gladly throw my lot in with Republican voters and conservatives to beat back the Marxist horde.
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
For me it is simple. There are Republican politicians and there are Republican voters. Republican voters are my ally. Republican politicians are hit and miss.
I see a party where the quality of the Republican politicians has improved since 2008. Neocons are not as strong as they once were and libertarian types are more prominent than they were. I see a party where Jeb! and Kasich are outcasts. Marxist Republicans are aligning themselves with Democrats. What is not to love?
Citizen of Arizona
@cleaner4d4
I am a libertarian. I am advocating everyone enjoy maximum freedom on both personal and economic issues as long as they do not bring violence unto others.
“It is not true that all creeds and cultures are equally assimilable in a First World nation born of England, Christianity, and Western civilization. Race, faith, ethnicity and history leave genetic fingerprints no ‘proposition nation’ can erase." -- Pat Buchanan
Philosophically I'm an anarchist, but I am very willing to work toward a libertarian ideal, minarchist system in order to maximize government harm reduction. If we got that far, it would probably be worth going all the way, but at that point it certainly wouldn't be worth using any type of violence or anything as the state would be so minimal it would not affect us very much anyway. At that point, it would be a philosophical step, people saying that ya we have replaced 99% of government institutions with voluntary insitutions, why don't we try replacing that last 1% and see how it goes. It could be a few states, or a few communities or something that just say, "Ya, we are going to try it on our own for a while" and maybe something like "How much do you want to charge us to help maintain the military to protect us? We will see if we can come up with voluntary donations, otherwise we may try something else."
Anarchists will say that I'm not a true anarchist, because I am willing to work within the system to increase government harm reduction. That thought process makes zero sense to me, and it makes them look like a cult.. Why? Because you have to be in the "I'm not going to do anything in the political realm" club to be in the cool kid anarchy club, you can't simply agree that anarcho-capitalism is the most moral system philosophically, and a great ideal to work toward. They really need to get over that if they want to bring more people onboard as part of some movement.
They complain about the Constitution not working, but compared to what? Anarchy? If we just got rid of government tomorrow, how long would that last? What would fill the void? Something worse than our Constitutional Republic or something better?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
You guys got to toughen up . When I get down I go to Ron Zeplin to cheer me up . Once he points out you have not had to eat yer dog yet you'll know it is a wonderful day .
According to this excellent write-up, the Feds, CIA (USAID) and others are doling out waaaay more money than the WHO ever got. BILLIONS going directly to GAVI, bypassing the WHO entirely, on top of the billions going directly to vaccine makers.
Must read:
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond....-founded-gavi/
Despite this fact, the Trump administration is continuing to give billions to GAVI and in doing so, furthering Bill Gates’ goal to vaccinate 7 billion people. Trump may have pulled funds from the WHO, but that decision allows Gates to take full control of WHO policy and continue to use US taxpayer dollars to fund vaccine projects, including a rushed vaccine for COVID-19. This was likely the plan the whole time.
Last edited by devil21; 07-08-2020 at 04:36 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Actually it matters a lot, every piece of global government we withdraw from is important, you can whine that the glass is half empty but it used to be 2/3 empty.
And while there may be some money given out once it used to be a regular handout and it isn't anymore.
TDS, we are leaving as fast as we can, if Trump broke the rules of how to leave Congress would block him and probably impeach him and Trump is not looting billions.
It's not being enforced and we are leaving by the process required by the accord, and Trump will not be gone.
Some things in the TPP may have been put in the USMCA but not all and it is limited to Canada and Mexico instead of all the TPP members including China.
Projection shows your weakness.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Voters may be the ally, in theory, but since they continue to line up to vote for the latest Marxists with (R) behind their names and continue to chug down the swill pumped out by the faux-conservative media outlets like Fox, Breitbart, etc, it won't matter one bit. Communist policies will continue unabated until they wise up, regardless of party (thanks to the already mentioned CFR who controls both). But they won't. Because they're just not very smart people...
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
____________
An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Thanks but I'm not worried. Anyone that does more research than 15 mins of daily Tucker knows what's really going on these days. The amount of shilling on the web these days has become ludicrous but that's what we get when we allow the Feds to literally hand out trillions of dollars without so much as a flinch.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Sorry, but I find the idea that Trump withdrawing from the WHO is some grand conspiracy to corral Republicans is totally insane.. it would be completely unnecessary. It's not even on the list of what 97% of Republicans out there were even thinking 4 years ago, and it is more than even this forum could have ever hoped for. It makes absolutely, positively, zero sense and is completely laughable. It sounds like something coming from somebody who is pretending to be a hopeless conspiracy theorist where the ever-powerful cabal always wins, so it is senseless to fight it, and somebody who actually wants libertarians to lose and the cabal to win. That makes 100% sense to me.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Since your first sentence is a completely false premise and is based on something that may or may not actually happen, not one thing you wrote afterward matters. It's quite obvious now that Trump says a lot of things but either they never happen ("Trump considering..." then NOTHING) or there's a giant asterisk next to it ("Trump withdraws from WHO...in a year"). It's all to keep the dummies thinking things are happening that are not, while the communist policies keep piling on.
Now, go wait on the edge of your seat for your next Trumpbux payment, conservative. When Obama did it, he was a Marxist bent on destroying the country! Now, Trump does it and it's totally different.
It would actually be funny if it weren't so absurd to watch.
Last edited by devil21; 07-08-2020 at 05:28 PM.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Uh, ya, that's exactly what I said. You are saying Trump is saying it (that's what he did, right? said it?) as some grand conspiracy to corral Republicans.
Why does he need to do that if 97% of Republicans didn't even care about that issue 4 years ago? And all of the other things they didn't care about, but now do, and are things Ron Paul supported.. because Trump?
More dishonest propaganda.
Last edited by dannno; 07-08-2020 at 05:26 PM.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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