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    Exclamation Meanwhile, Gorsuch confirmed by simple majority vote 54-45

    In big win for Trump, Senate approves his conservative court pick

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1791GR

    The Republican-led Senate on Friday gave Donald Trump the biggest triumph of his young presidency, confirming his Supreme Court nominee over stout Democratic opposition and restoring a conservative majority on the highest U.S. judicial body.

    The Senate, which last year refused to consider Democratic former President Barack Obama's nominee to the court, voted 54-45 to approve Republican Trump's pick, Colorado-based federal appeals court judge Neil Gorsuch, to the lifetime job. Three Democrats joined the Republicans in voting for Gorsuch.

    Gorsuch's confirmation ends the longest Supreme Court vacancy since 1862 during the American Civil War, with the court down a justice for almost 14 months since long-serving conservative Justice Antonin Scalia died on Feb. 13, 2016.

    "Judge Gorsuch's confirmation process was one of the most transparent and accessible in history, and his judicial temperament, exceptional intellect, unparalleled integrity and record of independence makes him the perfect choice to serve on the nation's highest court," Trump said in a statement.

    "He's going to make an incredible addition to the court," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on the Senate floor.

    Illustrating the importance of the moment, Vice President Mike Pence served as the Senate's presiding officer during the vote to confirm Gorsuch, who also worked in Republican former President George W. Bush's Justice Department and is the son of the first woman to head the Environmental Protection Agency.

    Republicans, possessing a 52-48 Senate majority, on Thursday overcame a ferocious Democratic effort to block a confirmation vote, resorting to a rule change known as the "nuclear option."

    "Today, for the first time in history, the theft of a Supreme Court seat has been completed, profoundly damaging the integrity of the court," said Democratic Senator Jeff Merkley, referring to Republicans casting aside Obama's nominee Merrick Garland, who would have tilted the court to the left for the first time in decades.

    The Senate's approval of Gorsuch reinstates the nine-seat court's 5-4 conservative majority, fulfilling an important Trump campaign promise.

    Gorsuch, 49, was the youngest Supreme Court nominee since Republican President George H.W. Bush in 1991 picked Clarence Thomas, who was 43 at the time. Gorsuch could be expected to serve for decades, while Trump could make further appointments to the high court to make it even more solidly conservative because three of the eight justices are 78 or older.

    Three Democratic senators up for re-election in 2018 in states won by Trump last year - Indiana's Joe Donnelly, West Virginia's Joe Manchin and North Dakota's Heidi Heitkamp - voted for Gorsuch. Republican Senator Johnny Isakson missed the vote while recovering from back surgery.

    Gorsuch's confirmation gave a boost to Trump, showing he can get important agenda items through a Congress controlled by his fellow Republicans after the House of Representatives last month failed to pass healthcare overhaul legislation. Trump is planning major tax cut legislation as well.
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    Wow!

    Was this part of the Syria plan?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  4. #3
    Looks like a big win for officer safety.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  5. #4
    Good.

    He's not ideal, but for those of us who just want to live out our lives with our rights relatively protected, it's a win. A big damper on things like gun control for example. It buys us time for the principles/message of Liberty to spread and sink in a little while we still have the freedom and means for it to make a difference.

  6. #5
    Lets get some budget cuts and tax cuts .
    Do something Danke

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    Wasn't Thomas confirmed with 52 votes?

    Don't get too excited. This just brings the court back to where it was before Scalia died. If Trump gets to replace another one it will probably be with a liberal the way things are going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterx View Post
    Wasn't Thomas confirmed with 52 votes?

    Don't get too excited. This just brings the court back to where it was before Scalia died. If Trump gets to replace another one it will probably be with a liberal the way things are going.
    We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

    Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

    Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.
    If it was just the strike, I'd say ok, but it's not. There's cutting Flynn lose, Bannon is removed from the NSC, Sessions is reportedly on the outs with Trump, Ryancare, threatening the freedom caucus, Haley, Mattis, Cohn, Kushner, Ivanka, North Korea, McMaster, Tillerson. The writing is on the wall.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    We bombed an empty airfield, from the pics it didn't even look like it was paved.

    Clearly things could get worse, but it seems like everybody has a habit of making some of Trump's mole hills into mountains.
    Oh geez. Under whose authority did he bomb that molehill?!! Damn you, Dannno. You were much closer to sanity a few hours ago.

    But still... I'm pleased with Gorsuch, but it makes me wonder why they had to change the rules. Shoulda just waited em out. Now, the next time the Dems have the Senate, watch out!
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Looks like a big win for officer safety.
    Today, I cast the 51st vote to confirm Justice Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. It is a vote I am proud of, and I hope to remain proud of for decades to come.

    -Rand Paul

    ..
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Oh geez. Under whose authority did he bomb that molehill?!! Damn you, Dannno. You were much closer to sanity a few hours ago.

    But still... I'm pleased with Gorsuch, but it makes me wonder why they had to change the rules. Shoulda just waited em out. Now, the next time the Dems have the Senate, watch out!
    Like the Dems don't always get the person they want regardless. Do you think they could've found anyone worse than Sotomayor and Kagan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    [/h]..
    Gorsuch - US v Rodriguez 2013
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow!

    Was this part of the Syria plan?
    Another clown in a gown telling us what the Constitution really means. Yea?

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    Very much dislike the Republicans using the nuclear option on this. 200 years of history down the tube...

  17. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Wow!

    Was this part of the Syria plan?
    Yes. 100 million dollars of destructive waste was clearly to secure a moderately okay supreme court confirmation.
    “The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.” --George Orwell

    Quote Originally Posted by AuH20 View Post
    In terms of a full spectrum candidate, Rand is leaps and bounds above Trump. I'm not disputing that.
    Who else in public life has called for a pre-emptive strike on North Korea?--Donald Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.No. View Post
    Very much dislike the Republicans using the nuclear option on this. 200 years of history down the tube...
    It's OK, Mitch said he won't nuke the filibuster for legislation.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    In big win for Trump, Senate approves his conservative court pick
    Can't wait until Gorsuch declares some action of Trumps unconstitutional.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    It's OK, Mitch said he won't nuke the filibuster for legislation.
    That doesn't matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Can't wait until Gorsuch declares some action of Trumps unconstitutional.
    http://thehill.com/regulation/court-...deportation-of

    Justice Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's first Supreme Court appointment, cast the deciding vote in a decision released Tuesday that sided with an immigrant fighting his deportation.
    Partisan politics, misleading or emotional bill titles, and 4D chess theories are manifestations of the same lie—that the text of the Constitution, the text of legislation, and plain facts do not matter; what matters is what you want to believe. From this comes hypocrisy. And where hypocrisy thrives, virtue recedes. Without virtue, liberty dies. - Justin Amash, March 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    Shocked! Shocked to hear this!
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  24. #21
    Is Trump going to fire him?
    Truth forever on the scaffold, Wrong forever on the throne,--
    Yet that scaffold sways the future, and, behind the dim unknown,
    Standeth God within the shadow, keeping watch above his own.
    ‫‬‫‬

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    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    LOL, like Trump deports people...
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by axiomata View Post
    Is Trump going to fire him?
    No.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    At least he's on record against the Kelo vs City of New London ruling.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.c2044e6299bf

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...the-little-guy

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by undergroundrr View Post
    A technical ruling against vague laws, and it wasn't one of Trump's actions just a routine deportation case.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    President Trump on Tuesday called on Congress to pass stricter immigration laws after Justice Neil Gorsuch cast the deciding vote in the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision that ruled in favor of an immigrant threatened with deportation.
    “Today’s Court decision means that Congress must close loopholes that block the removal of dangerous criminal aliens, including aggravated felons,” Trump tweeted.
    “This is a public safety crisis that can only be fixed by Congress — House and Senate must quickly pass a legislative fix to ensure violent criminal aliens can be removed from our society,” he added.

    More at: http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...&utm_content=1
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #27
    I don't see a problem if Gorsuch rules correctly according to the law and an undesirable result ensues.

    The onus is on Congress to write laws in such a manner that they can be easily understood.



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