DC Considers Allowing 16-Year-Olds to Vote

[dannno]

So what's the too-fat cut-off? 15%? We'll have two different numbers, one for men and one for women, of course.

Normally I would make women's % lower, but a woman with 15% body fat is usually pretty fit, I don't think they tend to go too much lower than that.





Women should be in the 15-25% range, men should be in the 10-20% range imo (there ought to be a law!). Women seem to be able to get away with an extra 10% body fat than men while looking to be about the same fitness level.

[H_H]

There are other demographic groups as well who should be early on the chopping block, but I'll let you figure out for yourself which those might be.

I agree, although I'd rather have some sort of system that only allows taxpayers to vote and not welfare recipients.

Well that's a demographic group, now isn't it?

Who wants to go next? What's another demographic the voting booth could do without?

[Madison320]

Well that's a demographic group, now isn't it?

Who wants to go next? What's another demographic the voting booth could do without?

The thing I like about the taxpayer voting system is that's there's no conflict of interest. If the voters want to increase the size of government, they have to increase their OWN taxes. If you use any other demographic system you have the potential for one group to vote to steal from another. Potentially the over 30s could vote to steal from everyone under 30.

But I totally agree there's no "right to vote. It's just a means to an end which is good government.

[r3volution 3.0]

legislation that would lower the age to vote in federal and local elections to 16

Allowing everybody to vote is a bad idea?

Huh, ...

Now, whoever could have predicted that this would become a problem (...I mean, except every literate person who ever lived prior to ~1789 AD)?

[Swordsmyth]

Allowing everybody to vote is a bad idea?

Huh, ...

Now, whoever could have predicted that this would become a problem (...I mean, except every literate person who ever lived prior to ~1789 AD)?

If one extreme end of a spectrum is bad then it is likely that the other extreme is as well.

[r3volution 3.0]

If one extreme end of a spectrum is bad then it is likely that the other extreme is as well.

That's questionable reasoning, but, if we're to take that route, the median is a monarchy with a parliament of some sort (not popularly elected).

[heavenlyboy34]

Normally I would make women's % lower, but a woman with 15% body fat is usually pretty fit, I don't think they tend to go too much lower than that.





Women should be in the 15-25% range, men should be in the 10-20% range imo (there ought to be a law!). Women seem to be able to get away with an extra 10% body fat than men while looking to be about the same fitness level.

lean=/=fit. Pretty important distinction, IMHO. Even slightly above average people can get some decent striation with weight cutting and such. Doesn't mean they'll have good conditioning WRT strength, cardio, etc., which is the focus of most of the "fitness" world.

[H_H]

lean=/=fit. Pretty important distinction, IMHO. Even slightly above average people can get some decent striation with weight cutting and such. Doesn't mean they'll have good conditioning WRT strength, cardio, etc., which is the focus of most of the "fitness" world.

But if you've got tons of fat crowding and cramping your organs, that can't be good, eh? No matter how many "strations" or how good you may look on the surface. Plus you're having to lug it around everywhere, plus it's probably where your body has stashed all kinds of toxins you've taken in over the years.

Inability to avoid becoming obese shows bad character, bad judgment, and total lack of self control. Lack of ability to take any, even the tiniest, amount of inconvenience right now in order to reap benefits years down the road, no matter how huge those benefits might be. Do we want slobs like that making decisions for how to run a good society? When they can't even figure out how to run a good individual, even at the basic, rudimentary physical level?

No thank you. No thank you for me, I say. Ban these losers. They can't vote. They can't control themselves: they don't get to control the country. I will be generous, however. Based on Dannno's recommendations, I will set it at no more than 25% body fat for men and no more than 30% for women. That lets in people even who are 5% off-track into the fatso zone, which we probably shouldn't, but we are merciful.

We shall set up full body flotation tanks in front of every polling place for accurate vetting. "Yo' blubba' float? No getta vote."

And actually, is there any advantage to allowing such people to remain in one's country? Buehler?

[Ender]

So 16 is mature enough to be able to select the system of overlords, but still too immature and stupid to be able to drink a beer, carry a handgun, buy any firearm, get a tattoo, buy tobacco, enter a enforceable contract, make their own legal decisions, get married without parental consent, get a driver's license without parental consent, serve alcohol, get a liquor license, watch a rated R, NC-17 or X movie, work in a variety of hazardous occupations, work certain nighttime hours, .....

That's exactly my point.