What next?... Are we to attack pre-emptively to prevent retaliation?
Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows
Nice deflection.Originally Posted by dannno
Do you have any evidence of this obviously true claim?
It doesn't matter if the claim sounds likely or unlikely. What evidence do you have?
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Easy..
Just look at the reaction of some of his neocon inner circle after the Al Baghdadi assassination, he was also a CIA stooge. They were screaming mad that they weren't informed of this secret operation before it occurred, and some of them quit over it. They attacked him over it. Same thing happened with Soleimani.
Why would they be so upset? These are people that war monger all the time, you would think they would be out celebrating with hookers and blow or something.
The reason they were upset is because Trump took out their CIA assets put in place to initiate conflict and increase the military industrial complex and they couldn't tip them off in time.
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shut the $#@! up you retarded conspiracy theorist dumbass. He had a bio-weapon with him? what the $#@! are you talking about you $#@!ing idiot
You have definitively surpassed NorthCarolinaLiberty as the stupidest member of this forum. It really does not take more than 60 IQ to determine that Egypt's Omar Soleiman and Iran's Qasem Soleimani are different people. Stop posting on this forum. You are an idiot.
You sound like you're ready.
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"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
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"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
I have come to believe that you are trolling this site. There is no way anyone who is not trying to mock this site could believe a 1/4 of the things you post ot this site as fact. I keep waiting for you to come and reveal that this past 2 years has been a wind up but nothing yet. I'll keep waiting and hope don't disappoint me
Yeah the point was they are all kinds of CIA assets embedded in the Middle East. The CIA, MI6 and Mossad have created these wars.
At least this idiot figured it out, long ago, that war is a racket.
Going back to the US Embassy in Iraq, there were protesters with guns. Trump saw it as another Benghazi-type attempt. We do not know all the details, but we can surmise that he is deliberately getting bad Intel to create a war.
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You DO know that's an entirely different guy than the one Trump just assassinated?
There is no spoon.
Why is it that hard to believe that CIA assets exist to foment wars?
That isn't crazy at all.. In fact, it has been documented plenty of times.
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"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Ya but it shows a pattern of behavior. That is what the CIA does. It is their MO. So to say what I am saying is "crazy" or "outlandish" like some of you folks are saying is demonstrably false. Look: it's right there. That's what they do. Comprende?
Also an interesting coincidence on the last name.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Yes, I am aware of that. The article is about Omar Suleiman, Cairo, and CIA connections. Even Ron Paul is questioning whether Suleimani was a CIA asset. Qaddafi, Hussein, and Noriega were too, the lists are endless. I am starting to believe Trump is being set up, either way.
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I don't think your crazy but until I see some evidence, it's all conjecture. Yes it may be some institutional analysis to what the CIA has done, but I dont for one minute believe Trump is smart enough to know who is an operative and who isn't.
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"You folks"- always the insults - you have no link to Sueiimani being a CIA asset- and- why would the US kill one of their own?
Also- forms of the name "Suleiman" are very popular in Iran. Suleiman The Magnificent was considered on of the greatest emperors in all history.
There is no spoon.
Did they kill Hussein and Qadhafi?
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
It's actually really easy for Trump to find out who is an operative as President, and Trump is smarter than I am so I am sure he can figure it out.
All you do is go to your neocon advisers and let them talk for a while (it is important to have neocon advisers for this job). They will tell you about how horrible somebody like Assad is and how they need to take him out, but it's too hard to find out where he is (because want to expend a bunch of ammunition first, remember they want to profit from war..) They will tell you about some of his generals who are under surveillance and how they can easily take them out, they just need some drone missions to be approved.
Then you ask questions, like, "who is the head of ISIS, isn't it still Al Baghdadi?" They say ya, and you ask them to take him out. They start mumbling and hmmming and giving you the run around. So you push it some more. Then they tell you all about how difficult it is to track him down. Then you push it some more. Finally they say, ok we will try a mission. They use the CIA. They come back and say the mission failed.
Then you go to your white-hat advisers. These are the real American patriots. You ask them to put surveillance on Baghdadi to try and take him out. They use the Navy special ops teams instead of the CIA. When they have Al Baghdadi in the crosshairs, you go to your neocon advisers and tell him all about how you are about to take out Baghdadi. They ask for more details, so you tell them where you've found him and when you plan to take him out.
When your white hat adviser comes back and tells you the mission failed, some how he got word and split through some underground tunnels or something, now you have a pretty good clue the neocon advisor tipped of Al Baghdadi, and Al Baghdadi is a neocon intelligence asset.
Then you ask your white hate adviser to go back out and track him down again, and repeat the process, telling your neocon adviser, and suddenly Al Baghdadi gets away again.
Finally you ask your white hat adviser to go out and track him down again and take him out. This time you don't tell your neocon adviser about it (this is actually documented to have happened with both Baghdadi and Suleimani). Your white hat team is successful this time at taking out Baghdadi, but your neocon intelligence advisers are screaming mad that you didn't tell them, because you just took out their intelligence asset and they weren't able to tip him off. So they go to the mainstream media and talk about how irresponsible you are for carrying out a secret mission without telling them, and what a horrible President you are.
See? It's really easy. Now even you could do it. And Trump has already done it, at least twice.
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"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Is your implication that Qaddafia and Saddam are CIA agents and were CIA agents working with the agency when they were killed? If yes then let's work down that line of thinking to see how much sense it makes.
So Bush and Obama/Hillary killed a CIA agent. Do you think killing those agents made the world a better peaceful place? Do ever wonder why the Iranian people are mourning the death of this CIA? Your theory of him being a CIA agent just don't make any sense. Its most likely that he was a man that has wrecked havoc on the Jihadists we sent to Syria and killing him with lessen the attacks on them and maybe even put us on a path to a hot war.
Do you have a link to "you folks" being considered an insult? I've never heard of that. Is it in the forum guidelines?
The CIA is not the United States, the CIA is an intelligence agency run by the deep state solely for their own benefit. Trump is trying to take out the deep state, arrest them all. Trump largely has control over the FBI, the Army, the Marines and the Navy. There are still some holes, but largely he has been able to take over those organizations. He shouldn't have to take them over, he is President, but the deep state controlled them all when he took office.
Trump does NOT have control over the CIA or the Air Force. Those are still controlled by the Satanic Pedophiles in the deep state. That is why there are still ongoing chemtrail operations.
Trump has absolutely no issue taking out CIA deep state operatives who are terrorists and are responsible for murdering countless people.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Refer to dannno answer.
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Also remember "Operation Mockingbird."
https://thefreedomarticles.com/20-de...-gov-crime-p1/
Brennan, Clapper and other CIA people (with security clearance) are working for news organizations.
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They would be expecting that and they are surely planning a pre-emptive strike on us to pre-empt our pre-emptive strike.What next?... Are we to attack pre-emptively to prevent retaliation?
We have no choice but to pre-emptively strike to pre-empt the pre-emptive strikes they are already planning.
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So, your evidence that he was a CIA agent, and had a bio weapon, and was trying to start a war is that some neocons resigned? Why couldn't he be a mossad agent or mi6? Why couldn't he have had a nuke or a case of ak's? Why couldn't he just be a messenger sending intel for cia/neocons?
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"ideas have the potential of being more powerful than any army....The concept of personal sovereignty was pulled screaming from the ether into this reality by the force of men believing in a self evident truth, that men are meant to be free." - The Northbreather
"Trump is the security blanket of aggrieved white men aged 18-60." - Pinoy
Should have moved the Troops when Told To..
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My god dude Trump supporters on twitter are completely 160 degrees crazy, a America retaliation will destroy Iran and you think Russians will just sit there and watch the chaos?
[Bold emphasis mine]
You were saying, dannno?
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Well seeing how America is for sure going to start a war or respond to Iran by this week i highly recommend anyone willing enough to defend Trump or his admin to enlist to the US army or US marines online....
Iran pulled their punches.
There were no US casualties.
They did this so they could tell their people they got revenge but not start a war.
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@dannnoSo, your evidence that he was a CIA agent, and had a bio weapon, and was trying to start a war is that some neocons resigned? Why couldn't he be a mossad agent or mi6? Why couldn't he have had a nuke or a case of ak's? Why couldn't he just be a messenger sending intel for cia/neocons?
I'm curious why you don't want to answer my questions? Is it too many? What if we stick with just one at a time? What proof do you have that he was in the CIA?
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