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Thread: If RyanCare fails the vote, it may cost him his job

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    This explains why Trump threatened Mark Meadows to vote for the plan Trump is secretly against!


    You think that is completely out of the realm of being possible? Why?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    I would love for McCain to lose his seat its long over due.
    Yeah he has already lost his mind.
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water



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  5. #33
    Rand has enough sense to know if he calls it Trumpcare, they won't let him post articles on Breitbart.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by RonPaulMall View Post
    Could this have been Trump's plan all along? Go through the motions supporting Ryan's plan and then when it fails use that as the pretext of getting rid of his most powerful enemy in Congress? I noticed on CNN this morning that despite the anchor doing everything she could to paint Rand's opposition to the bill as opposition to Trump, Rand refused to take the bait and instead laid blame for the bill squarely on Ryan while insisting that he and Trump were on the same side. Could Rand and Trump have masterminded this whole thing?
    I noticed a few big supporters of Ryan calling it TrumpCare after its already been called RyanCare by Rand and many others. Trying to downplay Ryans hand at writing and bringing it to life. Trump will own it when he actually signs whatever comes out and that will be called Trumpcare. Until then its Ryan's.
    USE THIS SITE TO LINK ARTICLES FROM OLIGARCH MEDIA:http://archive.is/ STARVE THE BEAST.
    More Government = Less Freedom
    Communism never disappeared it only changed its name to Social Democrat
    Emotion and Logic mix like oil and water

  7. #35

    https://twitter.com/daveweigel/statu...02222587658246
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    This explains why Trump threatened Mark Meadows to vote for the plan Trump is secretly against!
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You think that is completely out of the realm of being possible? Why?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Ya, politicians NEVER say one thing and mean another, amirite??
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    You think that is completely out of the realm of being possible? Why?
    Because I'm not retarded.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  11. #39
    The longer answer is because Trump did everything he could to get RyanCare to pass. It still might, what then, he says oops? Seriously, the guy could get Paul Ryan fired easily if he wanted without playing secret games.

    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Because I'm not retarded.
    lol... ya, politicians always tell the truth
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    The longer answer is because Trump did everything he could to get RyanCare to pass. It still might, what then, he says oops? Seriously, the guy could get Paul Ryan fired easily if he wanted without playing secret games.
    How would he get Paul Ryan fired easily?

    Rand Paul disagrees, he says Trump is on his side and wants a better bill passed.

    But hey, it's become very fashionable lately to throw liberty folks under the bus. We already have people on here throwing Judge Napolitano under the bus, why not throw Rand Paul under the bus, too?

    I mean, we need to defeat Trump, so if it means throwing the entire liberty movement under the bus, is that what you want?

    Of course not. That's what the deep state wants. Stop doing what the deep state wants you to do.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    How would he get Paul Ryan fired easily?

    Rand Paul disagrees, he says Trump is on his side and wants a better bill passed.

    But hey, it's become very fashionable lately to throw liberty folks under the bus. We already have people on here throwing Judge Napolitano under the bus, why not throw Rand Paul under the bus, too?

    I mean, we need to defeat Trump, so if it means throwing the entire liberty movement under the bus, is that what you want?

    Of course not. That's what the deep state wants. Stop doing what the deep state wants you to do.
    Who, exactly, is throwing Rand Paul under the bus on this issue?

  16. #43
    Rand is not telling House members to vote for Obamacare Lite, in fact, he is telling them the opposite.
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Rand has enough sense to know if he calls it Trumpcare, they won't let him post articles on Breitbart.
    Rand is not with you little CPUd

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by silverhandorder View Post
    Rand is not with you little CPUd
    you are a false flag.

    also you are fake news
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Who, exactly, is throwing Rand Paul under the bus on this issue?
    I didn't say anybody was throwing Rand Paul under the bus, I was just giving you guys the opportunity to do so since it has become so fashionable to throw liberty people under the bus for the deep state so you can fight Donald Trump... cuz you know, one random dude is so much more dangerous than the establishment
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    you are a false flag.

    also you are fake news
    Reported.

    Fake American.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by CPUd View Post
    Rand is not telling House members to vote for Obamacare Lite, in fact, he is telling them the opposite.
    Rand is the good cop. Donald Trump is the seemingly corrupt cop who is working with the good cop and actually trying to help everybody. Tune in next season.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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  23. #49
    low energy
    “I don’t think that there will be any curtailing of Donald Trump as president,” he said. "He controls the media, he controls the sentiment [and] he controls everybody. He’s the one who will resort to executive orders more so than [President] Obama ever used them." - Ron Paul

  24. #50
    If Trump doesn't like Ryancare, it's because he wants something more socialist.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I didn't say anybody was throwing Rand Paul under the bus, I was just giving you guys the opportunity to do so since it has become so fashionable to throw liberty people under the bus for the deep state so you can fight Donald Trump... cuz you know, one random dude is so much more dangerous than the establishment
    Oh, so you were just $#@! slinging. Carry on then.

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Rand is the good cop. Donald Trump is the seemingly corrupt cop who is working with the good cop and actually trying to help everybody. Tune in next season.
    You'd make a pretty good writer of fan fiction.

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You'd make a pretty good writer of fan fiction.
    Sometimes, reality is stranger than fiction.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    It's a balance between appeasing his supporters, appeasing the deep state and reaching his own goals.
    ~Resident Badgiraffe




  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Great. People will stop confusing Paul with Rand or Ryan with Paul.
    Yup. One is a rising conservative star of the Tea Party and the other is Rand Paul
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

    My pronouns are he/him/his

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Seriously, the guy could get Paul Ryan fired easily if he wanted without playing secret games.
    How exactly would he do that? Trump has been dealing with Deep State Sabotage on a near daily basis for the past 50 days. If Trump were strong enough to depose Ryan he never would have allowed him to get elected Speaker again in the first place. Trump can't depose Ryan on purely ideological grounds because the Establishment is still too powerful. Pointing out that Ryan is an establishment shill and cuck of the highest order won't do the trick. He needs something else. He needs Ryan to fail. If Ryan can't even deliver on a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare (something backed by 100% of Republicans) then what can he deliver on? What good is he?



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  32. #57
    Can't wait to say "Hasta Lasagna, Via con Carne" to that loser.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    Because I'm not retarded.
    But maybe you're just saying you're not retarded but you are retarded, and hiding your retardedness is part of your 11D plan to defeat Trump's 10D plan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    What does that prove? That the President can make statements?
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    What does that prove? That the President can make statements?
    Lol - must be nice. I mean, the guy can say or do anything he wants and you'll still polish him. If he does something you like, great. If he says something you don't like, you can completely dismiss it... because you know what he's really doing. lol.

    Cult of personality. Play to your fantasies and you'll believe he is the answer to what you want to believe. Art of the Deal 101. Obamabots thought the same thing about their hero. lol.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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