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OK, and can you show me where I said any of that in my post? Maybe take moment and actually try to read what I said. Likewise, it seems you are unable to appreciate the fact that alot of people are raised getting their heads filled with this stuff, yes, they can be taught a new way, but do you honestly think anyone is going to listen to you with your "bash them over the head with my truth" tactics?
Golden Rule? Booooo. Go back to Texas!
I for one will be the first to say that if the liberty message needs to become more 'voter friendly' and 'main streamed', you can take 2016 and shove it clean up Ronald Regans wazoo. That's because those friendly to watering down Ron Paul will find yourself where the liberty movement found themselves then: sold out and dissolved awaiting evacuation into a swirling vortex of waste water.
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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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It's all about Freedom
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doesn't sound like Ron runs his twitter account either.
Just doesn't sound like something he'd say.
Well, you much man aren't you? How about you watch this video of Tom Davis when they asked him why he endorsed Ron Paul and how he felt about Ron's Foreign Policy views, was this "watered down"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPy_U6k5W-k
Golden Rule? Booooo. Go back to Texas!
"Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesn't want to hear.” -Ron Paul
"Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it." -Edward Snowden
Nope.
I said nothing of the kind.slippery slope
You said that if we allow A to happen, then Z will eventually happen too, therefore A should not happen.
I said i would wish a hearty Good Riddance to Charles Manson as well.
That is why the WTF? it has absolutely nothing to do with my post. and nothing to do with the thread.
Nothing at all. Hence,, the question?????????
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
As a medically retired US Army Infantryman my opinion is that nowhere near everyone who dons the uniform is a hero. In fact, I'd say most that do are not heroes. This is rhetoric that forces people into accepting an agenda or risk looking unpatriotic.
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"No man hath power over my rights and liberties, and I over no mans [sic]."
What, sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty.
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An Arrow Against all Tyrants - Richard Overton vis. 1646 (Required reading!)
You really just look for reasons to hate Rand.
Frankly I think that Rons statement was pretty harsh, but more a commentary on the wars than the warriors who may just be misguided by "defending" their country to the benefit of only a few in reality.
Rand however still has political ambitions, so yes, just like any considerate human being trying to be supportive, he saved his real views for another time.
Its not like its uncommon for people to say nice things they may not fully mean when someone dies.
Ron has earned the ability to be frank and speak about the larger theme at play, Rand hasn't earned the right to be so blunt about a soldiers death (and hasn't had to see it for nearly as long as Ron to be so sick of it)
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The kids they dance and shake their bones,
While the politicians are throwing stones,
And it's all too clear we're on our own,
Singing ashes, ashes, all fall down...
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If a group of robbers breaks into your house and you point a rifle at them trying to defend yourself, which causes one of the intruders to shoot you, would you say the killing was justified, because he saved his fellow robbers' lifes?
If the war is unjustified, then resistence to it might be more moral than trying to win it. As others have pointed out, by your logic you couldn't condemn any individual action of any soldier on the battlefield in the history of mankind.
Plunder? We didn't take their oil. We didn't take their land. Making a bad strategic decision against a country with a leader who gases his own people and tried to assassinate a US President is far different from making lampshades out of humans and conquering an entire continent. And then subjugating them to National Socialism.
"We" didn't plunder anything. Nothing the regime in DC does is ever for "our" benefit. But it's always for somebody's benefit.
Politicians sent those troops to war to serve somebody's interest, and everything those troops did was in the service of whoever's interest that was.
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