Site Information
About Us
- RonPaulForums.com is an independent grassroots outfit not officially connected to Ron Paul but dedicated to his mission. For more information see our Mission Statement.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
More information...
Some mainstream US media have labelled the assassinated Qasem Soleimani as a monstrous blood-soaked, terrorist mastermind, as evil as Osama bin Laden.
Trump supporters have also pointed out that most Iranians hate Soleimani, and use social media comments for “evidence”.
Social media disinformation expert Professor Marc Owen Jones analysed the trend. He found that most of the 60,000 Soleimani-hating came from nearly 10,000 accounts, which had for the most common phrases “Make America Great Again” and “Trump”. Personally I wouldn’t expect that accounts using those phrases are Iranians.
Marc Jones concluded that “once again that the online right wing MAGA movement is boosting the trend that seeks to indicate that Iranians actually hated Soleimani”.
Those who were most extreme in their opposition to the recently killed general, had typical machine-generated usernames and generic profiles, with little personal data and default, plain displays on their page. This is an increasingly common occurrence in conflicts, to control the narrative on the internet.
In November 2019, during the U.S.-backed coup against President Evo Morales, thousands of newly created bots boosted a Spanish-language hashtag “there is no coup in Bolivia”.
There is evidence to suggest that most Iranians didn’t hate the killed Soleimani.
A 2019 survey by the University of Maryland found that “General Soleimani remains the most popular Iranian public figure” with 59% of the country viewing him “very favorably” and more than 80% of Iranians having a positive opinion of him.
A Morning Consultant poll showed that 47% of the Americans interviewed, support the drone assassination of Soleimani, although they agreed it made America less safe.
According to recent polls by Reuters and Ipsos, 39% of Americans “strongly disapprove” of the Trump administration’s handling of the Iran situation. Last weekend there were more than 70 anti-war protests across the United States.
According to Noam Chomsky, the US is a “rogue state” conducting “reckless international terrorism” with Trump’s actions giving ISIS “another lease on life”: https://www.mintpressnews.com/study-...ashtag/264024/
(http://archive.is/RaR8r)
Do NOT ever read my posts. Google and Yahoo wouldn’t block them without a very good reason: Google-censors-the-world/page3
The Order of the Garter rules the world: Order of the Garter and the Carolingian dynasty
Sounds like personal opinion.
Sounds like personal opinion from somebody with a major case of TDS.
Why wouldn't somebody who lives in Iran and hates Soleimani like Trump, the guy who killed him?
A Iranian political leader who killed and tortured over 1,600 Iranian protesters, is "popular" in the polls? Don't you realize if they answer the poll question the wrong way, that it makes it more difficult to sleep at night because they fear they might be kidnapped by the state and murdered?
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Whatever the $#@!, you are supporting the guy who killed and tortured over 1,600 of his own citizens for protesting their own government..
You have no credibility with anything happening after 2010.
I have been very much opposed to Soros' color revolutions. There is NO sign this is one of them.. In fact, Soros would be on the opposite side. He would be on the same side as you and CNN and the rest of the establishment.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Trump is paving the way to peace with Iran.
The sooner you can admit that, the sooner you will start understanding what is actually happening in the world instead of constantly seeing Trump Derangement Syndrome through your rose CNN colored glasses.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Have they had any operations against us in that time?
They brag about being at war with us and killing our men.
The new leader of Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps' elite Quds Force once boasted that U.S. troops have “suffered more losses from us than we have suffered losses from them” and has repeatedly ripped President Trump and America’s allies.
Brigadier Gen. Esmail Qaani, 62, now spearheads the special military unit following the death of Gen. Qassem Soleimani, who was killed Thursday in a U.S. airstrike at Baghdad International Airport in Iraq. He had served as Soleimani’s deputy commander since 1997 – and the Treasury Department says he has used his power to direct funding toward terrorist groups like Hezbollah.
Qaani, like many other Iranian government and military officials, also has a history of making hostile and inflammatory statements against the U.S.
“America has suffered more losses from us than we have suffered losses from them,” the Middle East Institute quoted him as saying during a 2017 ceremony in commemoration of Iranian forces and Iranian-backed militias battling in Syria and Iraq.
More at: https://www.foxnews.com/world/esmail...ce-iran-us-foe
The original IRANIAN source:
https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1...AF%D9%87%D8%AF
Translated:
https://translate.google.com/#view=h...8%A7%D9%85%2F*
"The war we have with the United States has been successful in standing up and resisting in the country because we are in the province," Qaani said
He was a uniformed member and leader of an organization that brags about being at war with us and killing us, he was in Iraq while our people were being killed and our embassy was attacked and was accompanying uniformed members and leaders of the groups carrying out those attacks, groups that his group helped to create, fund and direct.
We should leave the area and try to make peace but they are NOT the "good guys" and we should protect our people from them.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Same talking points over and over. We wouldn't have to protect "our people" from them if we weren't constantly a threat to them. Iran has no intention of invading us, they have no bases on our borders, they have never overthrown our government nor do they attempt to. Quit ignoring the fact that we are the aggressors here.
"The Patriarch"
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Well ya I am sure they were, that doesn't mean we should have been there.
I'm not excited about us being in the Middle East at all.. When we took out the Democratically elected leader of Iran in '52 and replaced him with the Shah, who was a brutal dictator, that was obviously very wrong.
The response to that was Iran eventually revolted and instituted a more religiously fanatic militaristic government as a response to the United States messing with their country. That government has turned out to be quite brutal as well, and our country certainly deserves some of the blame for that.
If I could make Ron Paul President and he could just bring the troops home, that would probably be the best call. Would it have the best outcome? I don't know, but I don't know what it is we could do that would lead to the best outcome either.
But, given the choice between Trump taking out their most brutal leader who has killed American troops in the war zone and had brutal relations with his own citizens, leading to more peaceful relations and perhaps allowing the citizens to form a more free government in Iran - versus having the neocons in charge who want to start a war and control the region through manipulation.. I'll take Trump 100 times over.
Seeing innocent people die in wars is horrible. Second to that, seeing young soldiers die who only wanted to help defend their country, that is very difficult as well. Seeing the violent, brutal, power hungry guys at the top who send these soldiers out to die and end up killing innocent people - I don't have a huge problem with seeing them being taken out.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
They shot down that drone (it is disputed whether it was in their airspace or whether they had spoofed it into entering their airspace) and Trump chose to do nothing.
That has nothing to do with all the other attacks on Americans they were responsible for when we were not in their territory by any stretch of the imagination.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
There is no evidence of Soleimani killing Americans. The talking point is straight from the lying State Department. Last night Trump went ever further and claimed he's killed 'hundreds of thousands of Americans'.
SS has been repeating the same garbage since the attack. Don't argue with him. He refuses to read the links we have provided or to actually show some understanding in terms of taking the point on board. He just ignores it and carries on. He is trolling and repeating talking points from Hannity or whatever. It's sad.
Iran responsible for deaths of more than 600 American troops in Iraq
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...troops-in-iraq
Qassem Soleimani was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of American soldiers
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...rican-soldiers
“The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner
Connect With Us