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    Bruce Fein: Congress should end the war in Ukraine by withdrawing from NATO

    Congress should end the war in Ukraine by withdrawing from NATO

    The Hill / Bruce Fein
    Nov. 25, 2022


    Congress can end the war in Ukraine and win a Nobel Peace Prize by enacting a statute withdrawing the United States from NATO — transforming it from a mighty offensive oak into a tiny acorn unalarming to Russia.**

    As early as 1798, Congress*nullified*a defense treaty with France by statute. A congressional end to United States participation in NATO would be no constitutional novelty.

    At the very latest, NATO became obsolete in 1991 when its raison d’etre — the Soviet Empire — dissolved. By remaining in NATO and spearheading its expansion to Russia’s borders with 30 members, the United States provoked President Vladimir Putin’s attack on Ukraine. It was poised to join NATO to fortify the encirclement of an already diminished Russia constituting a greater existential threat to it than the existential threat the Cuban missile crisis posed to the United States.**

    By withdrawing from NATO, Congress would end the existential threat that occasioned Putin’s invasion of Ukraine and extinguish the executive branch’s ambition for regime change or weakening Russia. The United States is NATO’s locomotive and the other members collectively the caboose. Congressional withdrawal would permit Putin to save face if he ended Russia’s military and political debacle in Ukraine by asserting that his war aim had been achieved.*
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    Full Article:
    https://thehill.com/opinion/national...ing-from-nato/

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    Prevent Unconstitutional Wars: Get US Out! of NATO
    https://jbs.org/alert/get-us-out-of-nato/


    Alert Summary

    NATO is a UN-subservient alliance that threatens U.S. national sovereignty. It is imperative that Congress follow the advice of the Founding Fathers and withdraw the U.S. from this entangling alliance.
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    Bruce is brilliant as always... which means his suggestions will be completely ignored in DC.
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    Why would withdrawing from NATO end the war? Money and arms would still be sent there. Somebody needs to feed the corruption over there. I want the US out of NATO, but have no illusion that it would stop all the overseas meddling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    Bruce is brilliant as always... which means his suggestions will be completely ignored in DC.
    Honestly thought he was dead

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    Withdrawing from NATO is like a unicorn. A fantasy that will never happen.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Withdrawing from NATO is like a unicorn. A fantasy that will never happen.
    Not with a senate like weve had the past 2 1/2 decades certainly.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Withdrawing from NATO is like a unicorn. A fantasy that will never happen.
    Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/u...ent-trump.html

    Bolton says Trump might have pulled the U.S. out of NATO if he had been reelected
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...een-reelected/

    Trump was planning to withdraw US from Nato and ditch South Korea alliance, according to new book
    ‘Yeah, the second term. We’ll do it in the second term,’ then-president reportedly said
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1883457.html
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    hah hah i met fein in 1987.... he was already speaking for the Heritage Foundation at that time, talk about a marathon
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    By withdrawing from NATO, Congress would end the existential threat that occasioned Putin’s invasion of Ukraine
    Faulty conclusion based on a faulty premise.
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    By withdrawing from NATO, Congress would end the existential threat that occasioned Putin’s invasion of Ukraine
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Faulty conclusion based on a faulty premise.
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    What does Russia want when it comes to Ukraine?

    A principal demand of Russia is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, a military alliance between 28 European countries and two North American countries dedicated to preserving peace and security in the North Atlantic area. The former Soviet state is one of just a few countries in Eastern Europe that aren’t members of the alliance. The Kremlin in general views NATO expansion as a “fundamental concern,” according to a translated readout of a Jan. 28 call between Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron.

    SOURCE:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...invade-ukraine
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    Quote Originally Posted by WisconsinLiberty View Post
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    What does Russia want when it comes to Ukraine?

    A principal demand of Russia is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, a military alliance between 28 European countries and two North American countries dedicated to preserving peace and security in the North Atlantic area. The former Soviet state is one of just a few countries in Eastern Europe that aren’t members of the alliance. The Kremlin in general views NATO expansion as a “fundamental concern,” according to a translated readout of a Jan. 28 call between Putin and French President Emmanuel Macron.

    SOURCE:
    https://www.usnews.com/news/best-cou...invade-ukraine
    Putin's stated motives for the SMO:

    The purpose of this operation is to protect people who, for eight years now, have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime. To this end, we will seek to demilitarise and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians, including against citizens of the Russian Federation.
    Putin clarifying that the concerns are not about NATO expansion - the concerns are about militant anti-Russian extremists on its borders:

    Any further expansion of the North Atlantic alliance’s infrastructure or the ongoing efforts to gain a military foothold of the Ukrainian territory are unacceptable for us. Of course, the question is not about NATO itself. It merely serves as a tool of US foreign policy. The problem is that in territories adjacent to Russia, which I have to note is our historical land, a hostile “anti-Russia” is taking shape. Fully controlled from the outside, it is doing everything to attract NATO armed forces and obtain cutting-edge weapons.
    http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/67843 (Putin's Feb 24 speech)
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