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Thread: Capitalism vs Socialism vs our free enterprise system. What is your choice?

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    I didn't wade through all the comments but it seems a rather moot point.

    We already live under socialism, by any objective standard.

    The "debate" now is whether the new crop of Bolsheviks and Jacobins are going to get enough people to go along with them to the next level: authoritarian Marxism, with all the goodies that come with that: pogroms, genocides and gulags.

    Right now it sure looks like it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    I get the distinct impression you despise and reject using “free” enterprise, and “free” market, to describe our system. Why?
    Because we DO NOT in fact have a Free Market.. nor Free Enterprise. The Free part being missing..

    For a very Long time..

    I welcome the Free Market,, in the small and limited places it still exists.



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    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I didn't wade through all the comments but it seems a rather moot point.

    We already live under socialism, by any objective standard.

    The "debate" now is whether the new crop of Bolsheviks and Jacobins are going to get enough people to go along with them to the next level: authoritarian Marxism, with all the goodies that come with that: pogroms, genocides and gulags.

    Right now it sure looks like it.
    Yup,, and have been my entire lifetime.. since about 1913 as best as I can tell,, though Lincoln and the Bankers War set the stage.

    I am surprised that so many continue to pretend differently...

    Institutionalized is my guess.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    How about 'mixed economy' with some free stuff, some universal healthcare , some socialism.

    Part of Trump's anti-HIV initiative, Federal gov't makes drug "free"
    Some free stuff is good, but more free stuff is better.
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