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    Trump supports massive U.S. funding bill as shutdown looms

    Yes, there is yet another budget deadline this Friday.

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump, in talks with congressional leaders on Wednesday, backed a $1.3 trillion spending bill meant to avert a U.S. government shutdown, even though it is expected to exclude some of his specific immigration-related funding requests.

    The bill has not been formally unveiled, but aides said it will be released soon, with lawmakers hurrying to approve it and send it to Trump for enactment before a midnight Friday shutdown deadline, the latest in a series of such scrambles in 2017-2018.

    The White House said in a statement that Trump, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan “discussed their support for the bill.”

    “They talked about their shared priorities secured in the omnibus spending bill,” the White House said.

    Trump at one point wanted $25 billion included in the bill to fully fund construction of his proposed U.S.-Mexico border wall, but negotiations with Democrats to make that happen fell apart early this week, according to congressional aides.

    Instead, Trump will get $1.6 billion more for border security this year, aides said. The White House said it will help pay for more than 100 miles of wall. A source familiar with the negotiations said the legislation would fund 33 miles of new border fencing and levees, but not a concrete wall.

    Major bills in the Senate generally need 60 votes to advance, meaning at least nine Democrats will have to support voting on the spending package.

    The source said the bill will not pay for more immigration detention beds or hiring more U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, which Trump had sought to help advance his goal of deporting more undocumented people.

    The bill will also allocate money for the Gateway rail tunnel under the Hudson River connecting New York and New Jersey and serving both Amtrak and New Jersey commuter trains, the source said, despite a veto threat by Trump.

    Congressional aides said the bill will include new money for the Pentagon, infrastructure, combating Russian election hacking and some modest gun legislation, as well as a fix to a “grain glitch” in last year’s major tax law overhaul.

    The bill will provide a $307 million increase above the administration’s request for counter-intelligence efforts to fight Russian cyberattacks in 2018, when mid-term congressional elections will be held, and $380 million for grants to states secure U.S. election systems.
    More at link.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN1GX1JD?il=0
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    Shut it down . Cut some spending next time .

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    Trump supports massive U.S. funding bill as shutdown looms
    LOL. As if the government ever shuts down. Much ado about nothing. For decades now.
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    The bill will also allocate money for the Gateway rail tunnel under the Hudson River connecting New York and New Jersey and serving both Amtrak and New Jersey commuter trains...
    Steal from the poor and give to two of the richest states in the nation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes, there is yet another budget deadline this Friday.



    More at link.
    You didn't include a link so I can't tell if this is newer or older information:

    Trump Having "Second Thoughts" About Omnibus Spending Deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Steal from the poor and give to two of the richest states in the nation.
    Trump threatens veto over Gateway tunnel funding

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    $1.3 trillion. Annual deficit over $1 trillion.
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    He just needed that massive MIC buildup.
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    Got $1.6 Billion to start Wall on Southern Border, rest will be forthcoming. Most importantly, got $700 Billion to rebuild our Military, $716 Billion next year...most ever. Had to waste money on Dem giveaways in order to take care of military pay increase and new equipment.
    He probably just likes the idea of a lot of big toys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Neocon View Post
    He just needed that massive MIC buildup.

    He probably just likes the idea of a lot of big toys.
    His entire life and career is based upon spending other people's money.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You didn't include a link so I can't tell if this is newer or older information:

    Trump Having "Second Thoughts" About Omnibus Spending Deal
    Updated to add Reuters link.

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    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politic...nal-house-vote

    Huge budget bill clears hurdle, nears final House vote

    WASHINGTON — A sweeping $1.3 trillion budget bill that substantially boosts military and domestic spending but leaves behind young immigrant “Dreamers” cleared an important procedural hurdle Thursday as lawmakers struggled to meet a Friday deadline to fund the government or face a shutdown.

    The bill negotiated by congressional leaders, who hope for a final House vote later in the day, would deprive President Donald Trump of some of his border wall money and take only incremental steps to address gun violence. It also would substantially increase the federal deficit.

    House members voted narrowly, 211-207, to begin debate and move toward a vote that would then send the bill to the Senate.

    Although some conservative Republicans balked at the size of the spending increases and the rush to pass the bill, the White House said the president backed the legislation.

    Trump himself sounded less than enthused, tweeting late Wednesday: “Had to waste money on Dem giveaways in order to take care of military pay increase and new equipment.”

    Talks had stretched into Wednesday night before the 2,232-page text was finally made public.

    “No bill of this size is perfect,” said House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis. “But this legislation addresses important priorities and makes us stronger at home and abroad.”

    Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 Democrat in the House, complained that the late-night release left lawmakers with too little time to examine the massive bill before voting on it.

    “This is an abomination of the legislative process,” Hoyer thundered, holding up a bulky print-out as debate on the measure began. He invited any lawmaker who had read the entire bill to join him in the well of the House. No one did. Hoyer then admitted he hadn’t read the bill either.


    Despite those complaints, congressional leaders were hoping to approve the bill in the House later Thursday and send it to the Senate for a final vote. A stopgap measure may be needed to ensure federal offices aren’t hit with a partial shutdown at midnight Friday when funding for the government expires.

    Negotiators have been working for days — and nights — on details of the bill, which is widely viewed as the last major piece of legislation likely to move through Congress in this election year. Lawmakers in both parties sought to attach their top priorities.
    Rand Paul was critical about the size of the spending bill.

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    Due to the hard work of advocates the bill includes the text of the Rohrabacher-Blumenauer amendment.
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    SEC. 538. None of the funds made available under this Act to the Department of Justice may be used, with respect to any of the States of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming, or with respect to the District of Columbia, Guam, or Puerto Rico, to prevent any of them from implementing their own laws that authorize the use, distribution, possession, or cultivation of medical marijuana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You didn't include a link so I can't tell if this is newer or older information:

    Trump Having "Second Thoughts" About Omnibus Spending Deal
    To be clear, his concern was that the bill didn't spend enough on the wall.

    He had and has no objection to massive and growing government.

    Incidentally, here's the 2000+ page bill if anyone cares to read it.

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    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/03/2...ll-march-2018/

    Here’s what Congress is stuffing into its $1.3 trillion spending bill

    WASHINGTON — Congressional negotiators reached a tentative agreement Wednesday night on a $1.3 trillion federal spending bill, releasing it to the public just 52 hours before a government shutdown deadline. The draft bill runs 2,232 pages, and we’re going through it so you don’t have to. Here are some key highlights:

    Overall spending: The “omnibus” appropriations bill doles out funding for the remainder of fiscal 2018 – that is, until Sept. 30 – to virtually every federal department and agency pursuant to the two-year budget agreement Congress reached in February. Under that agreement, defense spending generally favored by Republicans is set to jump $80 billion over previously authorized spending levels, while domestic spending favored by Democrats rises by $63 billion. The defense funding includes a 2.4 percent pay raise for military personnel and $144 billion for Pentagon hardware. The domestic spending is scattered across the rest of the federal government, but lawmakers are highlighting increases in funding for infrastructure, medical research, veterans programs and efforts to combat the opioid epidemic. Civilian federal employees get a 1.9 percent pay raise, breaking parity with the military for the first time in several years.

    Border wall: The bill provides $1.6 billion for barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border, but with some serious strings attached. Of the total, $251 million is earmarked specifically for “secondary fencing” near San Diego, where fencing is already in place; $445 million is for no more than 25 miles of “levee fencing”; $196 million is for “primary pedestrian fencing” in the Rio Grande Valley; $445 million is for the replacement of existing fencing in that area; and the rest is for planning, design and technology – not for wall construction. The biggest catch is this: The barriers authorized to be built under the act must be “operationally effective designs” already deployed as of last March, meaning none of President Donald Trump’s big, beautiful wall prototypes can be built.

    Immigration enforcement: The bill bumps up funding for both U.S. Customs and Border Protection and for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement – delivering increases sought by the Trump administration. But there are significant restrictions on how that new money can be spent. Democrats pushed for, and won, limitations on hiring new ICE interior enforcement agents and on the number of undocumented immigrants the agency can detain. Under provisions written into the bill, ICE can have no more than 40,354 immigrants in detention by the time the fiscal year ends in September. But there is a catch: The Homeland Security secretary is granted discretion to transfer funds from other accounts “as necessary to ensure the detention of aliens prioritized for removal.”

    Infrastructure: Numerous transportation programs get funding increases in the bill, but the debate leading up to its release focused on one megaproject: The Gateway program, aimed at improving rail access to and from Manhattan on Amtrak and New Jersey Transit. Trump made it a signature fight, largely to punish Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and other Democratic backers of the project who have held up other Trump initiatives, and Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao told Congress this month that the project simply wasn’t ready for prime time. The project is not mentioned in the bill, and Republican aides say that they turned back efforts to essentially earmark federal funding for the project. But Democrats say that the project is still eligible for as much as $541 million in funding this fiscal year through accounts that Chao does not control. The project might also still qualify for other pools of money, though it will have to compete with other projects on an equal playing field.

    Health care: Left out of the bill was a health-care measure sought by GOP Sens. Susan Collins of Maine and Lamar Alexander of Tennessee that would have allowed states to establish high-risk pools to help cover costly insurance claims while restoring certain payments to insurers under the Affordable Care Act. Trump, who ended the “cost-sharing reduction” payments in the fall, supported the Collins-Alexander language. But Democrats opposed it because they claimed it included language expanding the existing prohibition on federal funding for abortions.

    Guns: The bill includes the Fix NICS Act, bipartisan legislation aimed at improving the National Instant Criminal Background Check System that is used to screen U.S. gun buyers. It provides for incentives and penalties to encourage federal agencies and states to send records to the federal database in an effort to prevent the type of oversight that preceded last year’s church massacre in Sutherland Springs, Texas. Democrats pushed for more aggressive gun laws, including universal background checks, but only won a minor concession: Language in the report accompanying the bill clarifying that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence. A long-standing rider known as the Dickey Amendment, which states that no CDC funds “may be used to advocate or promote gun control,” has been interpreted in the past to bar such research. The amendment itself remains.

    Taxes: The so-called grain glitch, a provision in the new GOP tax law that favored farmer-owned cooperatives over traditional agriculture corporations by providing a significantly larger tax benefit for sales to cooperatives, is undone in the bill. Farm-state lawmakers and farming groups said that without a fix, the tax law could disrupt the farm economy and even put some companies out of business. The spending bill tweaks the tax law to level the playing field between sales to coops and corporations. Democrats in exchange got a 12.5 percent increase in annual allocations for a low-income housing tax credit for four years.

    Internal Revenue Service: Despite the administration’s attempts to slash its budget, lawmakers grant $11.431 billion to the nation’s tax collectors, a $196 million year-to-year increase and $456 million more than Trump requested. The figure includes $320 million to implement changes enacted as part of the GOP tax overhaul plan.

    Opioids: The bill increases funding to tackle the opioid epidemic, a boost that lawmakers from both parties hailed as a win. The legislation allocates more than $4.65 billion across agencies to help states and local governments on efforts toward prevention, treatment and law enforcement initiatives. That represents a $3 billion increase over 2017 spending levels.

    Foreign policy: Included in the spending bill is the Taylor Force Act. Named after an American who was killed by a Palestinian in 2016, the measure curtails certain economic assistance to the Palestinian Authority until it stops financially supporting convicted terrorists and their families. It unanimously passed the House last year.

    Baseball: Should the bill pass, some minor-league ballplayers could see a raise this year – but only barely. The Save America’s Pastime Act exempts pro baseball players from federal labor laws and has been a major lobbying priority for Major League Baseball ever since minor-league players began suing the league in recent years for paying them illegally low wages. The version in the bill only exempts players working under a contract that pays minimum wage, but there are major loopholes: The contract only has to pay minimum wage for a 40-hour workweek during the season, not spring training or the offseason – and it includes no guarantee of overtime even though baseball prospects routinely work long hours. Thus, under the bill, a player is guaranteed a minimum salary of $1,160 a month. The current minor-league minimum is $1,100 a month.

    Election security: The bill provides $380 million to the federal Election Assistance Commission to make payments to states to improve election security and technology, and the FBI is set to receive $300 million in counterintelligence funding to combat Russian hacking.

    Congressional misconduct: The House appears to have gone further than the Senate to address concerns about how allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct are handled on Capitol Hill. The House set aside $4 million to pay for mandatory workplace rights training and plans to create a new Office of Employee Advocacy to assist employees in proceedings before the Office of Compliance or House Ethics Committees. House leaders also made a point of highlighting plans to expand the House Day Care Center. But senators failed to reach agreement on making changes to how allegations of wrongdoing are handled, so they won’t be included in the bill.

    Congressional Research Service: The bill mandates that reports published by Congress’s in-house researchers be published online for public consumption. Historically, such reports have not been easy to access online, and a House Appropriations subcommittee took the lead last year in finally forcing transparency.

    District of Columbia: The nation’s capital will see a slight dip in its federal funding. Lawmakers provide $721 million in direct federal funding to the District, a $35 million drop from last year – due mostly to a $22 million cut in emergency planning money that was used to prepare for the 2017 presidential inauguration. Lawmakers also kept out GOP attempts to block the District’s budget autonomy act and its assisted suicide law.

    Religion and politics: The federal ban on tax-exempt churches engaging in political activity, known as the Johnson Amendment, will continue, despite attempts by Trump and GOP lawmakers to rescind it.

    Jury duty: If you serve on a federal jury, your daily pay rate will increase to $50 per day – a bipartisan win sought in part after two dozen federal grand jurors in Washington petitioned House and Senate judiciary committee members last fall, saying the current pay rate is “abysmal,” below the minimum wage and a hardship.

    Secret Service: The agency responsible for protecting the president and his family gets $2.007 billion, including $9.9 million for overtime worked without pay in 2017 and $14 million to construct a taller and stronger fence around the White House. In a win for congressional Democrats concerned about Secret Service agents protecting Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump on overseas business trips, the bill includes language requiring an annual report on travel costs for people protected by the service – including the adult children of presidents.

    Restaurant tips: In December, the Labor Department proposed a rule that would allow employers such as restaurant owners to “pool” their employees’ tips and redistribute them as they saw fit – including, potentially, to themselves. That generated a bipartisan outcry, and the bill spells out explicitly in law that tip pooling is not permitted: “An employer may not keep tips received by its employees for any purposes, including allowing managers or supervisors to keep any portion of employees’ tips, regardless of whether or not the employer takes a tip credit.”

    Yucca Mountain: The legislation blocks attempts by the Energy Department to restart a moribund nuclear storage program at the mountain in the Silver State. Former Senate majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., was a fierce opponent of the measure. Sens. Dean Heller, R-Nev. – the most embattled GOP incumbent up for reelection this year – and Catherine Cortez Masto, D-Nev., proved that they, too, can stop a federal program that is widely unpopular in their state from starting again.

    FBI: The spending bill grants the agency $9.03 billion for salaries and expenses, a $263 million jump over the last fiscal year and $307 million more than the Trump administration requested. The bill does not include any funding for the construction of a new FBI headquarters, a win for Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee. According to aides familiar with the move, the senator sought to block new construction funding in response to the administration’s plans to keep the FBI headquarters in downtown Washington instead of moving it to suburban Virginia or Maryland.

    Asian carp: The invasive species has wreaked havoc in the Great Lakes region, and lawmakers from states bordering the lakes touted language that forces the Army Corps of Engineers to keep working on ensuring that vessels in the Illinois River don’t carry the carp across an electric field erected to keep them out of the lakes.

    Apprenticeships: Federal money for apprenticeship programs will increase by $50 million and there’s a $75 million increase for career and technical education programs. The office of House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., noted that other job training and “workforce development” programs also stand to benefit, including “more money for child care and early head start programs to help make it easier for job seekers to enter or return to the workforce.” This has been an area of concern for former “Apprentice” star Ivanka Trump.

    Arts: Federal funding for the arts goes up, despite GOP attempts to slash it. The National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities will see funding climb to $152.8 million each, a $3 million increase over the last fiscal year. Trump proposed eliminating the endowments. The National Gallery of Art gets $165.9 million, a $1.04 million jump in funding. The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts will receive $40.5 million, which is $4 million more than the last fiscal year.

    Public broadcasting: Big Bird, “Antiques Roadshow” and “Masterpiece Theatre” can play on as lawmakers agreed not to cut funding for the nation’s public television and radio networks. Government funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting will remain at $465 million – the same level as past years. PBS and NPR draw most of their funding directly from member stations and viewers.

    Extenders: The bill reauthorizes key Federal Aviation Administration programs through the end of September and extends the National Flood Insurance Program through the end of July.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    LOL. As if the government ever shuts down. Much ado about nothing. For decades now.
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    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/22/paul...x-friends.html

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    The unholy alliance is stronger than ever:


  21. #18
    lol Trump says he's considering a veto because he wants to protect the Dreamers and wants moar wall money.



    So Trump supporters don't care if the Dreamers stay now, right? Or the fact that Mexico isn't paying for the wall? That's all good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Yes, there is yet another budget deadline this Friday.
    So you WERE wrong before . . .

    and what if President Trump vetoes this Dimocrat arse-kissing by Marathon Man Paul Ryan -
    USA lawmakers voted for an omnibus spending that they didn't even fully read - again. *sigh*
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-23-2018 at 09:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    SEC. 538. None of the funds made available under this Act to the Department of Justice may be used, with respect to any of the States of Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming, or with respect to the District of Columbia, Guam, or Puerto Rico, to prevent any of them from implementing their own laws that authorize the use, distribution, possession, or cultivation of medical marijuana.
    So they've declared open season on Idaho, Kansas, Nebraska and South Dakota, Samoa, the Northern Marianas and the U.S. Virgin Islands?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 03-23-2018 at 09:47 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    lol Trump says he's considering a veto because he wants to protect the Dreamers and wants moar wall money.



    So Trump supporters don't care if the Dreamers stay now, right? Or the fact that Mexico isn't paying for the wall? That's all good?
    The veto can be for whatever reason . . .
    but really there's is no need for the 45th President to rubber stamp the Pelosi-Schumer spending bill -
    all because Ryan and McConnell can't pull off anything even with GOP majority in the House and Senate and the GOP/populist President -
    what a shame so lame a Congress majority the GOP has.
    Last edited by Jan2017; 03-23-2018 at 09:46 AM.

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    I would sign it and include a signing statement - I hope you $#@!ers next year do it in a more timely manner as this is the last time I am allowing a turd like this reach my desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    I would sign it and include a signing statement - I hope you $#@!ers next year do it in a more timely manner as this is the last time I am allowing a turd like this reach my desk.
    All the House and 1/3 of the Senate have re-election races in 7 months -
    This could be the last GOP-controlled Congress Trump sees for the rest of this term in office(?)

  27. #24
    Press conference at the White House to begin any moment...

    It's being reported that Trump will sign the bill after all, despite his concerns that it doesn't spend enough money.



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  29. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Press conference at the White House to begin any moment...

    It's being reported that Trump will sign the bill after all, despite his concerns that it doesn't spend enough money.
    All hail MIC!

    So Trump's saying no one read it, it's ridiculous, he hates what's in it (except moar MIC money), he hates what's left out of it, etc.

    And then signs it. Dance orange monkey dance!!
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  30. #26
    So, he's babbling now.

    TL;DR - the MIC needs more of your money, so I've gone ahead and signed the bill.

  31. #27
    LOL he's signing it right now. But don't worry, he's "never going to sign a bill like this again".
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  32. #28
    Trump signed it. His excuse is that he had to fund the military.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    All hail MIC!
    Yup

    Now he's talking about getting rid of the filibuster and giving the POTUS a line-item veto.

  34. #30
    Does anybody really believe this crap about how depleted the military is?
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

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