Jerry Delemus Arrested!

[Pericles]

I wish to hell that I had been wrong about the consequences of Malheur, but it is clear now that I was right. This is 4GW. The bastards were just waiting until it was politic. Malheur made it politic. And now this crap.

On another note, I've learned not to bother to speak the uncomfortable truth anymore, nobody will pay attention to you anyway, and your friends will just hate you for it.

Spoke with a couple of the land owners along the Red River yesterday. It is amazing how many of them still have faith in the legal system to ultimately sort it all out. Probably because the alternative is too horrible for them to contemplate. However, a few are starting to realize what the future portends - and I admit I'm trying to be helpful in that regard.

[Anti Federalist]

ya, I bet it is hard for you to sleep at night,...
knowing that you were unable to stop these FOOLS from supporting the CONstitution.

but just think of all the visitors to RPF's that you have discouraged! that should cheer you up!

And your incoherent ramblings have impressed the masses, how, again?

Truth can be depressing and discouraging, in fact, it usually is, which is why most people don't like hearing it.

[Anti Federalist]

Are you out of the country?

No.

[phill4paul]

CONCORD, N.H. – A New Hampshire man will return to court on federal charges in connection with his role in an armed standoff by Nevada ranchers opposed to federal control of public lands.

Gerald DeLemus, of Rochester, was named in a federal indictment made public last week as a "mid-level leader" and organizer of a conspiracy to recruit, organize, train and provide support to armed men and other followers of rancher Cliven Bundy.

Bundy was arrested last month on charges stemming from the2014 standoff with federal officials in Nevada over hundreds of seized cattle.

The 61-year-old DeLemus was arrested Thursday and appeared in federal court in Concord, New Hampshire, where his lawyer and a prosecutor agreed to delay his detention hearing until Monday.

DeLemus could opt Monday to move his hearing to Nevada.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/03/07...doff-case.html

[CPUd]

[AuH20]

Professional liars and DJT is the most honest of them because he never hid who he was. Talk about a complete indictment on the political process when a predatory real estate developer is the most forthright. He came out and said "Hey, I was establishment." When has others like Obama and co. ever uttered those words?

[phill4paul]

I had to jog the memory a bit but this case against Delemus got me recollecting about the Bundy stand-off. I had thought that Delemus showed up after the stand-off and it seems so by the wording and dating in this article...

Days after agents with the Bureau of Land Management ended their effort to round up Cliven Bundy's cattle to ease mounting tensions, the showdown between the rancher and the federal government is still attracting armed conservative activists from around the country to a dusty stretch of land about 80 miles east of the Vegas Strip.

Last Tuesday, as he started to read more and more about the situation on The Drudge Report, Jerry DeLemus decided to give Bundy a call.

They spent more than an hour on the phone. "What do you need?" said DeLemus, who was calling from some 2,700 miles away in Dover, N.H.

"I need help," Bundy told him. "I need bodies."

"I'm coming," DeLemus said.

It was as simple as that, DeLemus told Business Insider Tuesday. Soon, he began the long drive in his truck. His son; his friend, Jack; and Jack's son accompanied him on the cross-country trip. All in all, it took 41 hours across a three-day span. They began driving at 5:30 a.m. last Thursday and made it there by Saturday afternoon. They barely took any break

http://www.businessinsider.com/bundy...delemus-2014-4

As far as the Oregon stand-off goes....

DeLemus said he wanted to make clear, “I’m not going out there to join up with them or to continue the standoff at the refuge. I don’t think it’s the correct avenue to go. But I couldn’t in good conscience sit at home knowing these people and thinking that there is a possibility that I could help to end this thing.

“If someone got hurt, I’d never forgive myself.”

“I’m just asking for prayers,” DeLemus added. “Pray that it ends peacefully. That’s the most important thing.”

http://www.wmur.com/politics/rochest...fully/37315366

So in both instances it seems as if the Fed rap is bunk. Not that it matters to the Feds.

[GunnyFreedom]

ya, I bet it is hard for you to sleep at night,...
knowing that you were unable to stop these FOOLS from supporting the CONstitution.

but just think of all the visitors to RPF's that you have discouraged! that should cheer you up!

The reality is that I've never made any bones about being a 100% strict Constitutionalist, and AntiFed and I get along like gangbusters. You, by repeatedly antagonizing him against Constitutionalism are in fact radicalizing him, and doing your level best to turn an ally and a fellow traveller into something else. What you are doing by pushing poking and prodding AntiFed to rant against Strict Constitutionalism is not helping. We agree on policy and principle to at least the 99th percentile, and I sorely wish you wouldn't keep pushing a friend and an ally away for no good reason. Mostly because you find his vocabulary distasteful.

As a 100% committed Strict Constitutionalist, I get where you are coming from, but you should probably pick on targets that are not already 99% allies.

[pcosmar]

So in both instances it seems as if the Fed rap is bunk. Not that it matters to the Feds.

I remember well.. and was vocally questioning Jerry's arrival circumstances.. initially.

But he was never anything but defensive and peaceful.. a peacemaker.

He arrived (or came into the light) just after the OK Drone strike.. (Victoria' Family)

He became head of the OK camp security. all after the standoff.

[phill4paul]

I remember well.. and was vocally questioning Jerry's arrival circumstances.. initially.

But he was never anything but defensive and peaceful.. a peacemaker.

He arrived (or came into the light) just after the OK Drone strike.. (Victoria' Family)

He became head of the OK camp security. all after the standoff.

Exactly. That's exactly as I was remembering it. Apparently, in America, defending oneself or others, in a peaceful but forceful measure, is now considered terrorism.

[ChristianAnarchist]

The reality is that I've never made any bones about being a 100% strict Constitutionalist, and AntiFed and I get along like gangbusters. You, by repeatedly antagonizing him against Constitutionalism are in fact radicalizing him, and doing your level best to turn an ally and a fellow traveller into something else. What you are doing by pushing poking and prodding AntiFed to rant against Strict Constitutionalism is not helping. We agree on policy and principle to at least the 99th percentile, and I sorely wish you wouldn't keep pushing a friend and an ally away for no good reason. Mostly because you find his vocabulary distasteful.

As a 100% committed Strict Constitutionalist, I get where you are coming from, but you should probably pick on targets that are not already 99% allies.

Ya, it's a shame that liberty folks who agree on more than 80% of issues have to sit and squabble over the 20%. Like Ron Paul we need to learn how to work coalitions.

[phill4paul]

The reality is that I've never made any bones about being a 100% strict Constitutionalist, and AntiFed and I get along like gangbusters. You, by repeatedly antagonizing him against Constitutionalism are in fact radicalizing him, and doing your level best to turn an ally and a fellow traveller into something else. What you are doing by pushing poking and prodding AntiFed to rant against Strict Constitutionalism is not helping. We agree on policy and principle to at least the 99th percentile, and I sorely wish you wouldn't keep pushing a friend and an ally away for no good reason. Mostly because you find his vocabulary distasteful.

As a 100% committed Strict Constitutionalist, I get where you are coming from, but you should probably pick on targets that are not already 99% allies.

One of the best posts I've seen on these forums in many a days.

[phill4paul]

blargh, blargh, blargh.

Oh, yeah? Well, blargh, blargh, blargh!

[Anti Federalist]

Very much agreed, and concur.

I would love nothing more than a thin and narrow construction of the fedgov based on constitutional principles.

Once having achieved that, then let's talk about change, so we don't have to go through this all over again in 250 years.

The reality is that I've never made any bones about being a 100% strict Constitutionalist, and AntiFed and I get along like gangbusters. You, by repeatedly antagonizing him against Constitutionalism are in fact radicalizing him, and doing your level best to turn an ally and a fellow traveller into something else. What you are doing by pushing poking and prodding AntiFed to rant against Strict Constitutionalism is not helping. We agree on policy and principle to at least the 99th percentile, and I sorely wish you wouldn't keep pushing a friend and an ally away for no good reason. Mostly because you find his vocabulary distasteful.

As a 100% committed Strict Constitutionalist, I get where you are coming from, but you should probably pick on targets that are not already 99% allies.

[Deborah K]

Anyone ever hear of JJ MacNabb? She writes for Forbes and works with the DHS. Check out her list of "seditionists":

http://www.seditionists.com/antigovviolence.pdf


This woman scares the crap outta me. She helped get Finnicum murdered and the others arrested. And then there's Richard Ellmyer. OMG!! These people are insane!!

[Deborah K]

Very much agreed, and concur.

I would love nothing more than a thin and narrow construction of the fedgov based on constitutional principles.

Once having achieved that, then let's talk about change, so we don't have to go through this all over again in 250 years.

I'm reading a book right now by Anna von Reitz that explains how we haven't followed the original Constitution since the 1860s. This thing we've been following is basically a corporate contract and we're its employees.

[phill4paul]

I'm reading a book right now by Anna von Reitz that explains how we haven't followed the original Constitution since the 1860s. This thing we've been following is basically a corporate contract and we're its employees.

I walked off that job around 6 yrs. ago. I think everyone should. I won't suffer an abusive employer.

[Deborah K]

Check out how inflammatory this jerk is with his emails and articles:



Look who picked up on what he wrote. This lefty journalist helped incite what happened to LaVoy and the others.

[Deborah K]

[HVACTech]

The reality is that I've never made any bones about being a 100% strict Constitutionalist, and AntiFed and I get along like gangbusters. You, by repeatedly antagonizing him against Constitutionalism are in fact radicalizing him, and doing your level best to turn an ally and a fellow traveller into something else. What you are doing by pushing poking and prodding AntiFed to rant against Strict Constitutionalism is not helping. We agree on policy and principle to at least the 99th percentile, and I sorely wish you wouldn't keep pushing a friend and an ally away for no good reason. Mostly because you find his vocabulary distasteful.

As a 100% committed Strict Constitutionalist, I get where you are coming from, but you should probably pick on targets that are not already 99% allies.

ya know Gunny. a lot of good men have fought and died.
defending the Constitution.

Ron Paul supported the Constitution.. all alone.. for nearly 30 years. Rand Paul supports the Constitution.
do YOU have any doubts about that Gunny?

I am pretty much alone in defending the CONstitution on RPF's Gunny.

this thread is about the people who showed up at the Bundy Ranch.. right? why did they do this thing? was it to fight the Federation?

or, was it to fight Federal overreach? in support of the Constitution?

I await a Marines response. and I expect one as well sir.

AF, very, VERY clearly. does NOT support the CONstitution. in fact,
he denigrates it at every turn.

our founders devised a "system". I am quite good at understanding those. the system that they devised, was to inhibit and frustrate the accumulation of power at the top levels, and to push "sovereignty" to as local a level, as possible.
it was to be a "Constitutional federation". as such, it was NEVER designed to apply to the people.
it was designed to protect them sir. and allow glorious anarchy. at the level at which it counts..
the local level.
and yes. this is worth fighting for sir!

I await a Marines response. and I expect one as well sir.

within a "federation of states" I can support our "Constitution"

AF cannot. that dumb$#@! once tried to tell me that TJ himself was an "anti-federalist" LOL!

how funny is that!

[HVACTech]

Oh, yeah? Well, blargh, blargh, blargh!

[Deborah K]

[Deborah K]

Press Conference Planned - 03/07/16
Deschutes County Sheriff Shane Nelson and Malheur County District Attorney Dan Norris invite media representatives to a joint press conference regarding the ongoing officer involved shooting investigation from January 26, 2016 in Harney County.

The press conference will be held on Tuesday, March 8, 2016 in Bend, Oregon.

This press conference will be open only to members of the press who RSVP. Those who wish to attend should contact the Deschutes County Sheriff's Office by email only at SheriffPIO@deschutes.org from their official email account to request specific information on location and instructions.
Detailed information and instructions will be provided to those media representatives who RSVP by email.

They're going to try and justify why they killed LaVoy

[Deborah K]

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-sta...medium=twitter

[GunnyFreedom]

ya know Gunny. a lot of good men have fought and died.
defending the Constitution.

Ron Paul supported the Constitution.. all alone.. for nearly 30 years. Rand Paul supports the Constitution.
do YOU have any doubts about that Gunny?

I am pretty much alone in defending the CONstitution on RPF's Gunny.

Now that is just absurd.

this thread is about the people who showed up at the Bundy Ranch.. right? why did they do this thing? was it to fight the Federation?

or, was it to fight Federal overreach? in support of the Constitution?

I await a Marines response. and I expect one as well sir.

AF, very, VERY clearly. does NOT support the CONstitution. in fact,
he denigrates it at every turn.

our founders devised a "system". I am quite good at understanding those. the system that they devised, was to inhibit and frustrate the accumulation of power at the top levels, and to push "sovereignty" to as local a level, as possible.
it was to be a "Constitutional federation". as such, it was NEVER designed to apply to the people.
it was designed to protect them sir. and allow glorious anarchy. at the level at which it counts..
the local level.
and yes. this is worth fighting for sir!

I await a Marines response. and I expect one as well sir.

within a "federation of states" I can support our "Constitution"

AF cannot. that dumb$#@! once tried to tell me that TJ himself was an "anti-federalist" LOL!

While neither appearing in either the Federalist papers or the Anti Federalist papers, Thomas Jefferson founded the Democratic-Republican Party explicitly to oppose the Hamiltonian Federalist Party. Also, Jefferson supported and lobbied for a Bill of Rights, which thing was an Anti Federalist platform and openly opposed by the Federalists.

how funny is that!

I think you are swallowing camels and straining at gnats:

Very much agreed, and concur.

I would love nothing more than a thin and narrow construction of the fedgov based on constitutional principles.

Once having achieved that, then let's talk about change, so we don't have to go through this all over again in 250 years.

[Anti Federalist]

I'm reading a book right now by Anna von Reitz that explains how we haven't followed the original Constitution since the 1860s. This thing we've been following is basically a corporate contract and we're its employees.

That's about right.

That's what the "admirality law - fringe on the flag" people have been saying for years now, and they are not too far off the mark.

[Anti Federalist]

AF, very, VERY clearly. does NOT support the CONstitution. in fact, he denigrates it at every turn.

We live under a tyrannical surveillance/military/police state, the scope and power and size of which the world has never seen before.

Our military empire has every square inch of the planet under surveillance, including us.

This government can reach out and kill anybody, anywhere, at any time, and does, on a regular basis.

This government imprisons more people, both per capita and in raw numbers, than any other regime on the planet.

And every single thing it does is/was authorized by the very constitution you worship.

[Anti Federalist]

Now that is just absurd.

Get ready for a bunch more.

Once having attracted this yo-yo's attention, he won't shut up.

[Pericles]

Anyone ever hear of JJ MacNabb? She writes for Forbes and works with the DHS. Check out her list of "seditionists":

http://www.seditionists.com/antigovviolence.pdf


This woman scares the crap outta me. She helped get Finnicum murdered and the others arrested. And then there's Richard Ellmyer. OMG!! These people are insane!!

I didn't make the list. What am I doing wrong?

[GunnyFreedom]

I didn't make the list. What am I doing wrong?

LMAO I had the exact same first thought...