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Thread: Apparently the Lord of the Rings is racist

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    True enough.

    Actually, Creative Writing 101 is a protagonist doesn't have to be a "good guy", he or she must merely make a momentous decision. And an antagonist doesn't have to be a " bad guy", he or she must merely interfere with the protagonist.

    I defy anyone to watch the entire The Godfather film franchise and find a single protagonist who is a good guy.
    But it’s the fight, you know. We saw a film recently where the good guy was very hard to discern. The good guy was really the antagonist.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I didn't mean to repeat you. I was in the middle of commenting and decided to go make my cornbread and when I came back I finished my post and noticed you had already posted and thought about just deleting but then I thought of a good gift for oyarde and went to that thread.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    I didn't mean to repeat you. I was in the middle of commenting and decided to go make my cornbread and when I came back I finished my post and noticed you had already posted and thought about just deleting but then I thought of a good gift for oyarde and went to that thread.

    No worries here. Happy to have the company here in my ... oooooo! Shiney!
    Chris

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    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    No worries here. Happy to have the company here in my ... oooooo! Shiney!
    Getting this thread back on topic...

    I've not been diagnosed with ADHD but I do have ENFP.

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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Suzanimal View Post
    Getting this thread back on topic...

    I've not been diagnosed with ADHD but I do have ENFP.


    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    And then there was the part where Saruman took advantage of the Shire's open borders, immigrated transformed their government and turned it into a tyranny.
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  9. #37
    So???

    Orcs
    Ain't
    People
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by William Tell View Post
    And then there was the part where Saruman took advantage of the Shire's open borders, immigrated transformed their government and turned it into a tyranny.
    You really should go an re-read The Return of the King because that isn't what happened at all. Saruman uses an invading force of half-orcs to conquer the Shire and uses Lotho Sackville-Baggins as the figure head for his regime. Ther eis no "transformation," no voting, no immigration. Open borders or "closed" were irrelevant.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by jkr View Post
    So???

    Orcs
    Ain't
    People
    You don't understand metaphors, do you?

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    You really should go an re-read The Return of the King because that isn't what happened at all. Saruman uses an invading force of half-orcs to conquer the Shire and uses Lotho Sackville-Baggins as the figure head for his regime. Ther eis no "transformation," no voting, no immigration. Open borders or "closed" were irrelevant.

    But that wouldn't fit the narrative.
    Chris

    "Government ... does not exist of necessity, but rather by virtue of a tragic, almost comical combination of klutzy, opportunistic terrorism against sitting ducks whom it pretends to shelter, plus our childish phobia of responsibility, praying to be exempted from the hard reality of life on life's terms." Wolf DeVoon

    "...Make America Great Again. I'm interested in making American FREE again. Then the greatness will come automatically."Ron Paul



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    That is a racist stereotype and not even true. I wish people on RPFs would knock that $#@! off.

    It is demeaning and hurtful to me and the contributions from my rich and inclusive culture.

    Next time I see some disparaging my heritage, I'm reporting it.
    Says the Orc , lol
    Do something Danke

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by PierzStyx View Post
    You don't understand metaphors, do you?
    FLIP THOSE FLAGS, THE NATION IS IN DISTRESS!


    why I should worship the state (who apparently is the only party that can possess guns without question).
    The state's only purpose is to kill and control. Why do you worship it? - Sola_Fide

    Baptiste said.
    At which point will Americans realize that creating an unaccountable institution that is able to pass its liability on to tax-payers is immoral and attracts sociopaths?

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Well it does kind of cast trolls, orcs and goblins in a bad light - serving the dark lord, going total viking - raiding, killing and pillaging and all that. That's just a part of their culture. Tolkien should be more respecting of that.
    And dwarves and elves - LOTR perpetuates the stereotype that dwarves are short, stubborn, grow beards and have a greed for treasure.
    LOTR also stereotypes elves as inherently good at bowmanship. Just because their elves doesn't mean they play archery. Some elves might prefer digging tunnels in mountains, and some dwarves might just prefer climbing trees and shooting the longbow.
    And hobbits - furry footed harmless little people with big feet, that like to grow vegetables and smoke pipes.
    i rather did like his Hobbits... hundreds of thousands of years ago, homoSapiens had other sapient Great Ape near kin...

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