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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
I'm saying we the people intend to exercise our sovereign power to secure our border as a means to securing our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
And you will not stop us. If you try, you'll be steamrolled just like everyone else and it will not be pleasant at all.
Get on board or get out of the way, those are the only options on the table for the forseeable future.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
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But they don't all have citizenship rights in America.
If you think the foreigners are going to treat you as an equal and look out for your interests as much as they do their fellow citizens/subjects you are sadly mistaken, even those that don't actively plot against you seek their own interests and their shared interests with their peers ahead of yours.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Citizenship isn't a right, it's a privilege. Government cannot grant rights.
If you are born here then you are granted certain privileges, including the privilege of voting. If you move here and become a citizen then you get those privileges too.
But individual rights still exist whether or not one is a citizen.
Every human seeks their own interests regardless of national origins. Not sure what your point is.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
There are rights that come from citizenship beyond those that come from being human, I have a right to be in America but foreigners don't for one.
Your fellow Americans share interests with you that foreigners do not, foreigners should not be treated as no different than Americans for your own good.
Last edited by Swordsmyth; 06-21-2018 at 11:06 PM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
You are confusing rights and privileges.
Ok, that's just subtly racist. Most foreigners I've met come over here to vacation or to work hard and build a better life. Even the illegals are mostly coming here to work hard because they don't have that opportunity where they come from.
I agree that doesn't necessarily mean the government should just let anyone in either.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
Well, you obviously know nothing about what I've accomplished, but let's just say, a lot more than you.
Some people see the issue as property rights, people shouldn't be allowed to trespass. Others see it as an economic issue where the government has no authority to set the supply and price curves of labor. I agree with both which I realize is also a bit of a contradiction.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
You are reducing rights to privileges.
No it isn't, I didn't say "brown people" or "black people" or "yellow people", I said foreigners, I don't care if they are blue eyed blondes or green eyed red heads, until the assimilate they will share interests with their native countrymen that you do not and they won't share interests with you that Americans do.
In the first place they still have different interests as I stated above and in the second we are talking about foreigners who don't come here as well as those that do, tariffs are applied to defend American industries against trade warfare by foreigners who don't come here.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
It is not anti-freedom for the government to protect Americans from hostile foreign trade war, tariffs are one of the forms of taxation the founders approved of because they are one of the forms that is least onerous on Americans citizens.
Trade warfare is used to weaken America and the ordinary middle class American to facilitate world government and domestic socialism, to allow it is to be anti-freedom.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
You are basing your thoughts on the false supposition that there is some sort of monolithic or homogeneous "American culture"... and while there are certainly parts of our society and culture that might be fit in to that category, the whole of the people here is neither.
Tariffs punish some people and reward others. You must have failed economics 101.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
There is an American culture and while some Americans may share more or less of it foreigners share none of it until they are assimilated.
So do trade wars waged by foreigners, people get hurt in wars so it is best to discourage others from waging them against you.
"All taxation is theft" makes a nice bumper sticker but only anarchist really believe it, government has a legitimate role in life and minimal taxes to support that role aren't theft.
Even defensive wars are expensive and countering foreign subsidies designed to turn America into a dependent welfare state incapable of resisting foreign domination and domestic socialism doesn't really make things more expensive, the subsidies make things less expensive in a bad way and the tariffs correct the price.
The best policy is to make it clear that we will defend ourselves against trade warfare and negotiate low tariffs with our would be antagonists.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Unless Trump manages to fire hundreds of thousands of federal employees, Virginia is lost for probably at least the next four years if not for an extremely long period of time. Best to not waste any effort at all promoting Liberty inside Virginia. North Carolina is still winnable as is South Carolina, and, Tennessee even Kentucky. Why West Virginia is a Backwater when it comes to Freedom like Kentucky. Even West Virginia is highly winnable.
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"A politician will do almost anything to keep their job, even become a patriot" - Hearst
What I responded to was one of the most ignorant thins I've read.
Money payed for a legitimate service is not theft just because in some cases the organization it is owed to has to extract it from someone who attempts to avoid paying what they owe.
Anarchists believe the government doesn't have a legitimate purpose so they can claim that all taxation is theft.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
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