Amash is at it again

[fcreature]

The treasonous coup is one of the most important issues of our time and Amash is embarrassingly wrong about it.

Not "one of". Its THE most important issue of our time. Period. I suspect the naysayers on this forum have not been paying any attention to the case, other than what the fake news media and the Democratic talking points say.

Amash read the report, and decided Trump obstructed based solely on that. Perhaps he should actually educate himself on the case outside of the (proven) lies within the Weissman report. Then he may actually know what the hell it is he's talking about.

[Swordsmyth]

What I said stands on its on. Someone posted something positive about Amash and you criticized him for something you did not criticize Trump for in this thread.

Maybe because this thread is about Amash and not about Trump.

And if Amash thinks the illegal investigation turned up something impeachable then the illegal investigation can be dealt with separately. Again, if an illegal investigation found credible evidence of Trump having child porn it wouldn't matter to me that the investigation was illegal. I'd still want him impeached. This isn't a criminal matter where "fruit from a poisonous tree" isn't allowed in court. Impeachment is political. But again, I don't think Trump did anything that I would impeach him for doing.

That is a myth, Congress is bound by the Constitution regarding impeachment, Trump has all the same rights as a non-politician and if the opposition is allowed to use the fruit of a poisonous tree you will encourage much more injustice and tyranny than whatever crime might go unpunished that was discovered in an illegal investigation.

[Swordsmyth]

Not "one of". Its THE most important issue of our time. Period. I suspect the naysayers on this forum have not been paying any attention to the case, other than what the fake news media and the Democratic talking points say.

Amash read the report, and decided Trump obstructed based solely on that. Perhaps he should actually educate himself on the case outside of the (proven) lies within the Weissman report. Then he may actually know what the hell it is he's talking about.

Amash read the report and twisted it to make obstruction out of nothing.
More education would be twisted in the same way somehow because Amash wants impeachment and he doesn't care about the facts.

[Swordsmyth]

Your sarcasm meter be broken.

The sarcasm is what makes it a concurring complaint that I don't post more.

[Origanalist]

Not "one of". Its THE most important issue of our time. Period.

More important than deviants and progressive slime infesting our schools? More important that than whole generations growing up thinking the government is all powerful and omnipresent and that's how it should be? I can think of a lot of things more important than the democrats latest dirty tricks. This stuff is hardly new.

[fcreature]

More important than deviants and progressive slime infesting our schools? More important that than whole generations growing up thinking the government is all powerful and omnipresent and that's how it should be? I can think of a lot of things more important than the democrats latest dirty tricks. This stuff is hardly new.

I can tell you aren't paying attention based on your description of this being "democrats latest dirty trick". This is so far beyond that. And certainly more important than both the items you listed above.

[Origanalist]

I can tell you aren't paying attention based on your description of this being "democrats latest dirty trick". This is so far beyond that. And certainly more important than both the items you listed above.

Maybe in your world. And no, it's not "so far beyond that". Politics has been dirty as hell as long as I've been alive, have you forgotten they assassinated Kennedy? Tried to kill Reagan?

[Swordsmyth]

More important than deviants and progressive slime infesting our schools? More important that than whole generations growing up thinking the government is all powerful and omnipresent and that's how it should be? I can think of a lot of things more important than the democrats latest dirty tricks. This stuff is hardly new.

It is connected to all those things, if the Demoncrats get away with the treasonous coup they will be emboldened to go full retard about everything.
And this is NOT business as usual.

[Origanalist]

It is connected to all those things, if the Demoncrats get away with the treasonous coup they will be emboldened to go full retard about everything.
And this is NOT business as usual.

Lol, and people are saying I haven't been paying attention.

[devil21]

Maybe in your world. And no, it's not "so far beyond that". Politics has been dirty as hell as long as I've been alive, have you forgotten they assassinated Kennedy? Tried to kill Reagan?

And those were actually real, not today's reality show production "deep state coup" nonsense where the main players were all 9/11 conspirators, Bush neocons and swamp insiders. The notion of FBI Director Mueller going "head to head" with NYC Mayor Giuliani is downright comical. But of course people are dumb and have short memories.

I'm pretty sure the only reason Linda McMahon was appointed to the cabinet was so that she could direct this WWE production from the inside, just like she directs a Wrestlemania production.

[UWDude]

But of course people are dumb

LOL

RUSSIA!!

[devil21]

Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder to post the real Russia background, not the fake one.

Part 1
https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blo...igarchs-part-i

Part 2
https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blo...garchs-part-ii

A great website overall that's worth a browse for anyone that wants real news.

[UWDude]

Oh yeah, thanks for the reminder to post the real Russia background, not the fake one.

Part 1
https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blo...igarchs-part-i

Part 2
https://www.conspiracyschool.com/blo...garchs-part-ii

A great website overall that's worth a browse for anyone that wants real news.

Justin Arussia is at it again.

[jmdrake]

The sarcasm is what makes it a concurring complaint that I don't post more.

Originalist wasn't complaining that you don't post more. He (she?) was saying you have time to post incessantly defending Trump even to the point of coming into a thread about something good Justin Amash did just to bash Amash for the sake of Trump.

[jmdrake]

That is a myth, Congress is bound by the Constitution regarding impeachment, Trump has all the same rights as a non-politician and if the opposition is allowed to use the fruit of a poisonous tree you will encourage much more injustice and tyranny than whatever crime might go unpunished that was discovered in an illegal investigation.

It's not a myth. Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. Nobody can be put in prison or fined as a result of impeachment. The only thing that can happen to them is that they are removed from office. Impeachment is a political process and that cuts both ways. Because impeachment is a political process, Bill Clinton could not be removed even though everybody knows he committed the crime of perjury. Similarly Trump cannot be removed unless 2/3rds of the Senate votes to have him removed and that ain't happening.

Also, to be honest the "fruit from a poisonous tree" doctrine doesn't apply to obstruction. That's a crime committed after the start of an investigation. In a regular criminal proceeding if police found evidence against you from a bogus investigation (such as actual evidence of collusion with the Russians in witness tampering) that evidence would be squashed. But evidence that you tampered with witnesses during the investigation would not be squashed. So...technically in a real criminal proceeding, Trump could be held liable for obstruction even based on a phony FISA warrant. But, like I said, this isn't really a criminal proceeding.

[nikcers]

Originalist wasn't complaining that you don't post more. He (she?) was saying you have time to post incessantly defending Trump even to the point of coming into a thread about something good Justin Amash did just to bash Amash for the sake of Trump.

Why would anyone have time to promote their political enemies by attacking their opposition? This is like running the football into the opposite direction from the endzone. All this does is amplify Bernie Sanders message of socialism and anyone who does is either politically stupid or is purposely sowing discord within the Republican party so that the socialist message wins and takes over the country.

[jmdrake]

Why would anyone have time to promote their political enemies by attacking their opposition? This is like running the football into the opposite direction from the endzone. All this does is amplify Bernie Sanders message of socialism and anyone who does is either politically stupid or is purposely sowing discord within the Republican party so that the socialist message wins and takes over the country.

I haven't the foggiest idea of what you are attempting to say. And I suspect you don't either.

[nikcers]

I haven't the foggiest idea of what you are attempting to say. And I suspect you don't either.

There is a political fire spreading in America and you are throwing gasoline on it.

[jmdrake]

There is a political fire spreading in America and you are throwing gasoline on it.

Like I said. You don't have the foggiest idea of what you are attempting to say. That is unless you are just a pathological liar.

[nikcers]

Like I said. You don't have the foggiest idea of what you are attempting to say. That is unless you are just a pathological liar.

The left is attacking capitalism with the crony capitalism they created and you spend more time derailing the only group of people who are stopping their cancer from spreading even farther. Already 4 out of 10 Americans want socialized medicine because of the leftist policies that created this supply and demand imbalance and you are helping their campaign win by constantly attacking their political opposition. You are throwing gasoline on the fire, you are either being purposely dishonest or you are basically Bernie Sanders.

[jmdrake]

You are a real piece of $#@! you know that right.

Really? You falsely accuse me of being like Bernie Sanders for standing up to the second amendment, lying about the legal technicalities of Manning / Assange when you were later forced to admit you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and now "throwing gasoline on a political fire" for my simply defending one of the most libertarian members of congress, and I am the "mean one." Okay. Whatever dude. SwordSmyth is often wrong but at least he has some intellect. You are low IQ and a crybaby on top of it.

[nikcers]

Really? You falsely accuse me of being like Bernie Sanders for standing up to the second amendment, lying about the legal technicalities of Manning / Assange when you were later forced to admit you didn't know what the hell you were talking about, and now "throwing gasoline on a political fire" for my simply defending one of the most libertarian members of congress, and I am the "mean one." Okay. Whatever dude. SwordSmyth is often wrong but at least he has some intellect. You are low IQ and a crybaby on top of it.

You are basically Bernie Sanders if you help him and his ideology win.

[Superfluous Man]

The left is attacking capitalism with the crony capitalism they created and you spend more time derailing the only group of people who are stopping their cancer from spreading even farther. Already 4 out of 10 Americans want socialized medicine because of the leftist policies that created this supply and demand imbalance and you are helping their campaign win by constantly attacking their political opposition. You are throwing gasoline on the fire, you are either being purposely dishonest or you are basically Bernie Sanders.

Both parties are equally complicit in promoting crony capitalism. Donald Trump is an unabashed thoroughgoing promoter of it from both sides, as a recipient of it in business and as a dealer in it in government. He himself doesn't even pretend otherwise. Justin Amash's entire career in Congress has been working to stop it. He has very few allies and many enemies. You are giving aid to his enemies.

[jmdrake]

Now I'll respond to the rest of your garbage post.

The left is attacking capitalism with the crony capitalism they created and you spend more time derailing the only group of people who are stopping their cancer from spreading even farther.

Donald Trump is the epitome of crony capitalism and he is protecting and defending it. He "repealed" NAFTA? Do you read his replacement bill?

Already 4 out of 10 Americans want socialized medicine because of the leftist policies that created this supply and demand imbalance and you are helping their campaign win by constantly attacking their political opposition.

In this thread, $#@!, I am defending Justin Amash. Last time I checked he was against socialized Medicine.

You are throwing gasoline on the fire, you are either being purposely dishonest or you are basically Bernie Sanders.

Bernie Sanders supports Donald Trump's gun grabbing jackass. By defending that you are the forum Bernie Sanders. Except....Bernie isn't a moron and a crybaby like you. You're more of that CNN reporter that whined and complained when Trump took away his press pass.

[jmdrake]

You are basically Bernie Sanders if you help him and his ideology win.

You are the one that defended Trump's bumpfire stock band jackass. That makes you in line with Bernie Sanders.

[jmdrake]

@nikcers Someone who would defend a bumpfire stock ban because it "takes away democratic talking points" has no business calling himself a patriot.

The bump stock ban is designed to derail the democrats talking point, its a piece of $#@! that is not even necessary and not even effective, its designed to shut people up when they cry to him about gun violence.

[nikcers]

Both parties are equally complicit in promoting crony capitalism. Donald Trump is an unabashed thoroughgoing promoter of it from both sides, as a recipient of it in business and as a dealer in it in government. He himself doesn't even pretend otherwise. Justin Amash's entire career in Congress has been working to stop it. He has very few allies and many enemies. You are giving aid to his enemies.

I was a huge defender of Justin Amash until he wiped his ass with the fourth amendment by supporting impeachment over an abuse of the fourth amendment. I would of helped him run for re-election and donated to his campaign if he didn't openly encourage FISA abuses against polical opponents of the deepstate by giving this report credibility. I was a huge fan of JA until he did this, it was a gutpunch to me when he did this, I regret ever supporting him.

[nikcers]

@Nickers Someone who would defend a bumpfire stock ban because it "takes away democratic talking points" has no business calling himself a patriot.

Name one socialist country that has gun rights.

[Superfluous Man]

I was a huge defender of Justin Amash until he wiped his ass with the fourth amendment by supporting impeachment over an abuse of the fourth amendment. I would of helped him run for re-election and donated to his campaign if he didn't openly encourage FISA abuses against polical opponents of the deepstate by giving this report credibility. I was a huge fan of JA until he did this, it was a gutpunch to me when he did this, I regret ever supporting him.

Please provide a quote from Amash supporting FISA abuses or supporting impeachment over abuse of the 4th Amendment.

[nikcers]

Please provide a quote from Amash supporting FISA abuses or supporting impeachment over abuse of the 4th Amendment.

What's Justin Amash's position on impeachment of Trump over the Mueller report? I shouldn't have to prove your point for you.