Uh Wait we are at 30,000 Deaths, what happened to 200K minimum WITH mitigation?

[James_Madison_Lives]

Idiot liberals will say "BECAUSE THE DISTANCING WORKED!" So the upper estimates of 1 million dead, even 2, did not come to pass. But Fauci in press briefings 3 weeks ago always included "with mitigation." That means social distancing was baked into those numbers. But don't count on liberals to be able to process all that. And Fauci has changed the dead estimate to 60,000, a bad flu season, many hospitals are empty, and the real mortality rate keeps going down even as more and more mild or asymptomatic cases are tested, and inflation of COVID19 numbers emerges.

Now we have a wrecked economy, decades old small businesses that will never come back, and cities ready to blow. On to phase 2.

On the other hand, the One Percent has people accustomed to locking themselves in their cells, and once the looting and pillaging starts, they will be begging for shoot on sight orders for anyone outside after curfew. These people are under control. Meanwhile they are partying like it's 1999 in their mansions with swimming pools. No problem "hunkering down."

That's a heck of a two months of work. Hats off to a formidable enemy.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

and not to mention,,, those numbers are including many that died from other things

[unknown]

and not to mention,,, those numbers are including many that died from other things

ikr

30,000 my $#@!ing ass

[Suzanimal]

and not to mention,,, those numbers are including many that died from other things

I read a 110 year old man died of coronavirus.

[69360]

The end numbers are going to look like a heavy flu season. The government and media can't lose. If more had died, we told you so. If less die, it worked we won.

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

yeah,,, actually I meant to say most that died of other reasons.

not many

[Mordan]

how do you count the deaths?

in Germany, if you have another illness such as cancer and die, you are not counted even if you test positive to COVID 19.

[pcosmar]

how do you count the deaths?

in Germany, if you have another illness such as cancer and die, you are not counted even if you test positive to COVID 19.

Here Fatal Head Injuries and Infanticide are counted as Covid.

The first dozen cases in Washington St. were all in the same Nursing Care Facility,, all Elderly people dying of something else first.
The Cold finished them off.

[Mordan]

Here Fatal Head Injuries and Infanticide are counted as Covid.

So that's politicized healthcare to push a political agenda.

[pcosmar]

So that's politicized healthcare to push a political agenda.

of course it is..

That is the whole point of this travesty.

[enhanced_deficit]

and not to mention,,, those numbers are including many that died from other things

Quite possible, there seems to be politics in play also unfortunately.

Uh Wait we are at 30,000 Deaths, what happened to 200K minimum WITH mitigation?

To be fair, Trump White House had projected a range (100K to 240K). Source is notorious neocons (right-wing faction) infested fakenews outlet but reporting checks out:




March 31
White House projects 100K to 240K coronavirus deaths as Trump tells US to prepare for ‘very painful two weeks’

By Andrew O'Reilly | Fox News
Video

Trump warns Americans to prepare for hard days ahead: We're going to go through a very tough two weeks
President Trump leads the White House coronavirus task force briefing.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tru...rus-guidelines




Also, timeline should also be considered when evaluating projections vs realizations. Hopefully data would settle towards the lowest possible figures way below the White House projected range but it is still somewhat dynamic unfortunately. So called "flattened curve" spreads out the infection rate over an expanded time horizon in effort to avoid overwhelming of medical facilities.



February 28, 2020



March 26, 2020
Trump's campaign is trying to remove a video of him appearing to call the coronavirus a 'hoax'

March 27, 2020
Fox Business parts ways with Trish Regan, host who dismissed coronavirus as 'impeachment scam'


2020-04-04 8,359

2020-04-10 18,544

2020-04-16 30,355

2020-04-18 37,221

2020-04-30 N/A

2020-05-30 N/A

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_c..._United_States

[Dark_Horse_Rider]

yeah,,, actually I meant to say most that died of other reasons.

not many

hey e_d,

this is more accurate quote of me

[jmdrake]

The end numbers are going to look like a heavy flu season. The government and media can't lose. If more had died, we told you so. If less die, it worked we won.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 69360 again.

True. But that's why it's important to look at the states that didn't lock down like Arkansas and compare them to the states that did. You know...actual science?

[acptulsa]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to 69360 again.

True. But that's why it's important to look at the states that didn't lock down like Arkansas and compare them to the states that did. You know...actual science?

See, that's the problem with states' rights, and freedom in general. There's always some state, or some group, or someone, who acts as a control group. That, admittedly, is good for science. But they usually make the feds look like the posturing fools they are.

Can't have that!

[dannno]

March 27, 2020
Fox Business parts ways with Trish Regan, host who dismissed coronavirus as 'impeachment scam'

The real impeachment scam was putting forward the articles of impeachment on the same day that it was announced we had the first corona virus case in the US, in an attempt to thwart the President from reacting so that the death toll would be more widespread and they could blame it on Trump and hurt his chances at re-election.

Of course the President took action regardless, which was roundly criticized by Democrats. Now the Democrats are trying to re-write history.

[Dr.3D]

So that's politicized healthcare to push a political agenda.

US Hospitals Getting Paid More to Label Cause of Death as ‘Coronavirus’

[fisharmor]

2.2 Trillion dollars.

It is the biggest government expenditure on anything in all of human history.

The average person can't even comprehend what one billion dollars is. It's too large for most people to envision.

The difference between one billion and one trillion... is about one trillion. That number they can't comprehend is 0.1% of a trillion.

Of course they're reporting everything possible as a COVID-19 death. There is a literally, not figuratively but LITERALLY endless money trough attached to this problem now.

This is never going to end. Not peacefully.

There are too many people who are financially invested now.

And now that we all got our stimulus checks, that includes people you know.
People you're related to.
People you may have actually trusted in the past.

They've all been given a neat little pile of money and told that YOU are a threat to their lives.


There's no $#@!ing way out of this.

[acptulsa]

There's no $#@!ing way out of this.

He rose to his feet.

“If,” he said tersely, “we could for a moment move on to the subject of fiscal policy …”

“Fiscal policy!” whooped Ford Prefect, “Fiscal policy!”

The Management Consultant gave him a look that only a lungfish could have copied.

“Fiscal policy …” he repeated, “that is what I said.”

“How can you have money,” demanded Ford, “if none of you actually produces anything? It doesn’t grow on trees you know.”

“If you would allow me to continue …”

Ford nodded dejectedly.

“Thank you. Since we decided a few weeks ago to adopt the leaf as legal tender, we have, of course, all become immensely rich.”

Ford stared in disbelief at the crowd who were murmuring appreciatively at this and greedily fingering the wads of leaves with which their track suits were stuffed.

“But we have also,” continued the Management Consultant, “run into a small inflation problem on account of the high level of leaf availability, which means that, I gather, the current going rate has something like three deciduous forests buying one ship’s peanut.”

Murmurs of alarm came from the crowd. The Management Consultant waved them down.

“So in order to obviate this problem,” he continued, “and effectively revalue the leaf, we are about to embark on a massive defoliation campaign, and … er, burn down all the forests. I think you’ll all agree that’s a sensible move under the circumstances.”

The crowd seemed a little uncertain about this for a second or two until someone pointed out how much this would increase the value of the leaves in their pockets whereupon they let out whoops of delight and gave the Management Consultant a standing ovation. The accountants amongst them looked forward to a profitable Autumn.

“You’re all mad,” explained Ford Prefect.

“You’re absolutely barmy,” he suggested.

“You’re a bunch of raving nutters,” he opined.

But they aren't fictional nutters after all.

[dannno]

US Hospitals Getting Paid More to Label Cause of Death as ‘Coronavirus’

[acptulsa]

The real impeachment scam was putting forward the articles of impeachment on the same day that it was announced we had the first corona virus case in the US, in an attempt to thwart the President from reacting so that the death toll would be more widespread and they could blame it on Trump and hurt his chances at re-election.

Of course the President took action regardless, which was roundly criticized by Democrats. Now the Democrats are trying to re-write history.

So, COVID 19 is everything they say it is because Trumpsucking. And then it's all a hoax because everything's a hoax in dannnoworld.

Tell you what. We'll let you have it both ways. Because beating heads against a brick wall.

[dannno]

So, COVID 19 is everything they say it is because Trumpsucking. And then it's all a hoax because everything's a hoax in dannnoworld.

Tell you what. We'll let you have it both ways. Because beating heads against a brick wall.

That's not what I said at all.

[VIDEODROME]

So, I saw different articles saying Europe hit 100,000 deaths. Is some of that exaggerated deaths with pre-existing conditions?

Still seems like a serious problem, but maybe with pre-cautions or masks we could still takes steps to end lockdown?

Some are also suggesting it's overall viral load in the initial exposure that influences whether it's a mild to serious or fatal infection, so maybe even if using masks aren't 100% effective, but more people get mild cases adding to herd immunity might also be good long term.