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What's DeSantis saying about central banking and foreign policy? You know, the stuff this forum was founded on?
*crickets*
Just the usual red meat divisive social-demographic junk to distract while the country is in the end stages of being looted. *yawn*
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
They actually have way more Constitutional rights than a US Citizen does. Immigrants are protected by the 1789 Constitution. US Citizens only retain contractual privileges under the 1871 Constitution. One is a natural living human with God given rights. The other is an artificial legal person with corporate privileges.
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
It was admittedly a great political stunt by DeSantis. I just don't iike that the illegals were used for it and that the working class of the island had to deal with it. Ship them to Boston and NYC and I am fine with it.
Really the overblown response calling out the national guard and having the state police escort them off the island to a military base was arguably worse than what DeSantis did. The left didn't even tolerate 2 full days with illegals near thier vacation homes.
This forum was founded to support Ron Paul.
Ron campaigned on bringing home the troops from around the world and using them to protect our border.
He did this in 2008 and 2012.
Because that is what the constitution says one the few assigned duties of the fedgov are.
This is a 5th Gen warfare invasion.
Article IV Section 4 says:
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion
Anything beyond those key points is smoke and bull$#@!.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
You are horrible at strategy. The right wants to deport them. The (people, not politicians so much) on the right don't want them to have access to government programs and handouts. Additionally, a lot of the benefits and handouts come from blue states that the red states have no control over.
The left has it setup so immigrants are flooding into red states and there is nothing they can do about it, they can't deport them.
The left starts flying them, including children, all over the country. The right accuses them of human trafficking. The left pretend it's not even happening.
The right decides to fly them to the areas where the people are who are actually funding and voting for this crap. They do it with their consent, voluntarily. You should be all for that. Now, suddenly, the left is pretending it's a big deal and the Republicans are wrong for doing exactly what they have been doing all along. You are pretending it's bad that Desantis did this, even though it was all voluntary.
This shows the left are total hypocrites, and the right has been backed into a corner where these kind of stunts are the only thing they can do to expose the left.
I don't know why this needs to be explained to you, it is very obvious what is happening and only leftists seem to have trouble with figuring it out.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Ya I hate it when politicians spend money on stuff that the people would have gladly donated money for anyway
Of course you don't understand strategy. That's why you advocate people do things that will land them in a cage, and make it so they can't legally own or carry a firearm for the rest of their life, and if they do, they will be thrown in a cage again.
You can do what you want, but we are the ones trying to abolish the cage.
"He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
"dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
"You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
"When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q
"Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul
"Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
@dannno
Actionsanti-liberty strategies have consequences.
Jump in. Here's the thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...YC-and-Chicago
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Horse $#@!.
The only thing Teh Right can do, you say, is play the defensive on the battleground of Teh Left's own choosing. Sure, if they want to lose. And of course, they do. Except for Paul and Massie, and maybe Lee and Greene, every Republican politician on the national stage wants to lose this fight. There is more power and are more bribes in betraying conservatives than in serving us. I know, you think there are other exceptions. I'll try again to tell you why you're wrong.
Conservatives who aren't betraying us are trying to do battle on important fronts. They're trying to nail Fauci, preserve the Constitution, do effective things to enable free speech to be heard, stop the printing of the currency, investigate the weird "accidents" damaging the food supply chain, stop our oil from flowing to China, tell us the truth about the latest "splendid little war". So why aren't they doing it? Because rank and file conservatives are, by and large, a bunch of trained seals, and when DeSantis uses the money of Florida taxpayers to fly aliens from Texas to Massachusetts, they think they were fed a fresh fish. Ar ar. But no battle was won. No progress was even made toward winning a battle.
Proving a bunch of hypocrites live on Martha's Vineyard is not an accomplishment. Literally everyone already knew that. How did it move us closer to winning this war that was declared on us? It didn't!
If Teh Right can't figure out what really needs to be done, if the best Teh Right can do is say, we have to play defense on the battleground of our enemy's choosing, we are $#@!ed.
If we can fight the important battles, like the suppression of truly independent media for example, or the great running tap of currency that is empowering them and impoverishing us, and win them, less vital and less immediate stuff like immigration can easily be solved.
DeSantis throws you a bone, just like Trump did, and makes you feel superior to some hypocrites you despise, and you salivate like Pavlov's dogs. I say, that won't win this war they declared on us and you want to shoot the messenger. You continue to be more focused on what makes CNN whine and whimper than on things that will be at the heart of our victory if and when we ever are victorious--things CNN refuses to even mention, which Must Not Be Named. And that is why we are $#@!ed, because we don't have enough sense to see that these people who are playing such an amusing game of defense are refusing to pick a battle we can and must win, and take the damned initiative away from the damned enemy.
That, dannno, is the standard I held Trump to, that I hold this character to, that has always enabled me to spot the RINOs long before you. Unless and until rank and file conservatives learn to look for that, we will continue to lose, just as true conservatives have been letting everything that made this country great slip from our grip since before either of us was born.
Trump: Oh, yeah, he always had pretty girls around, some of who[m] were on the young side.
DeSantis:
*Crickets*
Thousands of sealed indictments, still collecting dust. Who was it who said, the sole legitimate function of government is protecting pregnant women and children--everything else is just window dressing? These immigrants are just window dressing, and nobody seems to be able to see the more important things hidden beyond.
So.....the answer to my question is "nothin'". DeSantis is running right back to same red meat PR nonsense that all the fake conservatives talk big about but actually do nothing about. Didn't anyone learn anything from DJT's bloviating empty promises about cracking down on immigration? No wall and only fraudsters convicted of defrauding millions out of gullible donors (Build The Wall lol).
Are you really going to fall for this song and dance again?????
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Boston and NYC are large cities with facilities and organizations set up to handle these people. Marthas vineyard and most of the new england coast has nothing. More than half of the homes in most coastal cities are vacation homes empty most of the year. The area aleady has a major housing crisis for middle class and workers. The elites who own the vacation homes sure aren't letting illegals stay in them. By September they are all long gone anyway.
Ok, so then send them over @Anti Federalist way up in New Hampshire, they got lot's of unused land. Problem solved. He even offered to "chip in".
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
What song and dance is that?
I supported and still support Ron's position.
Bring the troops home and put them on the border.
Repel the invaders, by any means necessary, up to and including deadly force.
Nobody is talking about doing that.
Doesn't mean I can not appreciate the ironic genius of DeSantis' move.
Or take joy in the Marxist meltdown of hypocrisy in the wake of it.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
Yeah, DeSantis is horrible. He hasn't done anything right, and he would never be on the same side of an issue as Ron Paul.
We should consider the most Ron Paul-like candidate for POTUS, Gavin Newsom. Gavin is honest, sincere and really cares about all people. Plus he has great hair and can speak better than Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. Don't fall for the same old song and dance, vote for Gavin, he's like Ron Paul on steroids!
"Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
"Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
"Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
"Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul
Proponent of real science.
The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.
And yet, nobody is talking about shutting off the spigot, willing to instead throw more money at it while restricting our rights.
Damn, considering the market, I just might have to transfer all of my investments to the MIC. At least that's a sure bet. People love hate, people love violence, but they absolutely do hate Freedom and Money.
Anybody have Cheney's number?
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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[Telling myself that I keep speaking to a brick]...
Immigrants are people like you [I think] and me. I don't care where people go or what they do. It's when you shove pacifiers into their mouths, keep paying their tabs, giving them "legal" status so that they either mooch off the system or Fund the Fed. They become reliant on the system, just like fat white chicks with 5 kids to 3 different fathers living in Section 8.
Until the Welfare gets shut off, expect more of the same. Keep paying your taxes, keep making excuses, keep the hate and violence up, nothing will ever change. All you are doing at that point is contributing to both Personal Welfare and Corporate Welfare, and empowering politicians who profit by it, at the expense of liberty.
If they come here to work, I have zero problem with that. Without "legal" status and freebies, they can either work to support themselves, starve or move on. That is the choice they can make without other's interference.
Does "work" even ring a bell anymore in this day and age?
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Again, I don't buy that anymore.
Maduro is emptying the prisons and sending them here. Even if there was not so much as a bottle of water to be handed out, these men would still cross the border.
Millions more are being funded, organized and directed by foreign governments, hostile NGOs both foreign and domestic and internal traitors.
This is not about jobs or "a better life" or hand outs and welfare or wretched refuse yearning to breathe free.
This is 5th Generation warfare, designed to destroy this nation.
Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11
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