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Thread: Trump threatens to seal U.S.-Mexico border over migrant caravan. Can he do it?

  1. #151


    Democrats are so desperate to win, they need the zombie hordes from south of the border. At this point, I am 100 percent behind a military action at the border, to blockade illegal immigration. forget the russians....democrats are using illegal immigrants to gain votes.



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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Dufus. I didn't "just figure that out." That is what I was saying all along.


    Your name calling does not advance your position. But let me ask, is English your second language? You did write "private property rights" . . .



    JWK

    The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs



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  6. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post


    Your name calling does not advance your position. But let me ask, is English your second language? You did write "private property rights" . . .



    JWK

    The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs
    Watch and educate yourself.



    At 0:30 Ron Paul says "Private property rights do a whole lot to provide our security."

    You've been here since 2008 and you've never heard someone use the term "private property rights?" Seriously? After all of this time you haven't figured out that the ubiquitous term "private property rights" means the rights of the owner of the property as opposed to the rights of the property? That...that's your position is it?
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  7. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post

    Democrats are so desperate to win, they need the zombie hordes from south of the border. At this point, I am 100 percent behind a military action at the border, to blockade illegal immigration. forget the russians....democrats are using illegal immigrants to gain votes.
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.

  8. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    They aren't supposed to but they do.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

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  9. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    Nobody as opposed to the stated goals of the site should be allowed to post here and yet here you are.

  10. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They aren't supposed to but they do.
    Just like some dead people. Maybe they should move the elections further away from Halloween.

  11. #159
    Trump threatens to seal U.S.-Mexico border over migrant caravan. Can he do it?
    There are reports that MAGA is sending military to the border.

    But hard to say what will he do in the end as he seems to have multiple positions on almost every issue and is an "intentional liar" accoding to his friend Scaramucci. But he has been a major supporter of tough border control/sealing policy of our closest ally (as have been both major US parties) and recently sent them $Billions in US military aid.

    32 Palestinian civilians killed by Israeli snipers firing during Gaza border protests


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    Israel Gives African Refugees A Choice: Deportation Or Jail
    February 22, 2018

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  14. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They aren't supposed to but they do.
    And the good folks in California have votes that have less of an impact in our
    Electoral College than the good folks in our Midwestern states. As citizens, our
    votes are uneven. Some are even diluted by very deliberate gerrymandering.

  15. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post


    Your name calling does not advance your position. But let me ask, is English your second language? You did write "private property rights" . . .



    JWK

    The unavoidable truth is, Andrew Gillum and the Democrat Leadership’s socialist plan for “free” college tuition will be paid for by taxing millions of college graduates who worked for and paid their own way through college and are now trying to finance their own economic needs






    You've been here since 2008 and you've never heard someone use the term "private property rights?" Seriously?


    And it's wrong, regardless of who says it. Just as those who refer to our system of government as a "democracy" are wrong, so to are those who reference property rights.


    How about learning something and move on?

    JWK

    Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

  16. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    And it's wrong, regardless of who says it. Just as those who refer to our system of government as a "democracy" are wrong, so to are those who reference property rights.


    How about learning something and move on?

    JWK

    Our federal government is granted power “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.
    Ummmmm....LOL.
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    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #164
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.

    Stop making crap up. Illegal immigrants are not supposed to vote.


    JWK



    American citizens are sick and tired of being made into tax-slaves to finance a maternity ward for the poverty stricken populations of other countries who invade America’s borders to give birth.


  18. #165
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    Illegal immigrants can't cross the border illegally.

  19. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    And the good folks in California have votes that have less of an impact in our
    Electoral College than the good folks in our Midwestern states. As citizens, our
    votes are uneven. Some are even diluted by very deliberate gerrymandering.

    And, the very reason our founders required "representatives and direct taxes" are both to be apportioned. If California wants to increase their representation in Congress by counting illegal entrants, so to is their apportioned share of any "direct tax" to be increased, proportionately to their representation in Congress. The formula being:


    State`s Pop.
    ___________ X House size (435) = State`s No. of Representatives
    U.S. total pop



    States’ population

    ---------------------------- X SUM TO BE RAISED = TAXPAYER’S CONSTITUTIONALLY AUTHORIZED FAIR SHARE

    Total U.S. Population



    Let’s get down to some upsetting facts regarding California‘s 55 electoral college votes.


    The total share of federal taxes paid by the people of 18 states [New York, Texas, Illinois, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Washington, Connecticut, Maryland, Colorado, Arkansas , Nebraska, Delaware, Rhode Island, New Mexico, and Wyoming] works out to be a higher per capita amount then paid by the people of California. And yet, the state of California has an overwhelming 55 electoral college votes compared to any of these states!


    The rule of apportionment requires an equal per capita tax whenever Congress lays a direct tax. But California, although it exercises its apportioned share of representatives, is not paying its apportioned share of any direct tax laid by Congress.

    BTW, the rule requiring "direct taxes" to be apportioned, has never been altered by our Constitution!


    JWK

  20. #167
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They [illegal immigrants] aren't supposed to [vote] but they do.
    Not that it really matters one way or the other, but any evidence to support that claim?

  21. #168
    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    And the good folks in California have votes that have less of an impact in our
    Electoral College than the good folks in our Midwestern states. As citizens, our
    votes are uneven. Some are even diluted by very deliberate gerrymandering.
    That is all part of how the system was designed, illegal voters are not.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  23. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Not that it really matters one way or the other, but any evidence to support that claim?
    Yes, it has been posted before.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  24. #170
    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Stop making crap up. Illegal immigrants are not supposed to vote.


    JWK
    Um. That is what I said. Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote.

  25. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    Not that it really matters one way or the other, but any evidence to support that claim?
    US Citizens are assets/employees/shareholders of the federal corporation we call the "US Federal Government" thus are eligible to cast votes in elections for various officers of the corporation. Illegal immigrants are not and therefore are ineligible to participate in electing the corporation's officers. No different than how you can't vote for an officer or Board member of a corporation that you don't own stock in. Ever wonder why they're called "illegal"? They're not part of the corporate "legal" framework that the system operates under. Are you "legally present"? That term doesn't have anything to do with borders. It refers to one's "legal" status, not your physical location.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

  26. #172
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Um. That is what I said. Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote.
    That is not the same thing.
    They aren't supposed to be here but they are, they aren't supposed to vote but they do.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  27. #173
    So tempted to start yet another thread, but ....https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/m...mexico-n925171

    Migrant caravan members reject offer to stay in Mexico

    Under the "You are at home" plan, they would have received benefits if they applied for refugee status and stayed in the country's two southernmost states.
    Sitting at the edge of the edge of the town square, 58-year-old Oscar Sosa of San Pedro Sula, Honduras concurred.

    "Our goal is not to remain in Mexico," Sosa said. "Our goal is to make it to the (U.S). We want passage, that's all."

  28. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    they can create an LLC with any state in the u.s., file an ROC....and put you out of business by undercutting you, while being funded by cartels. YES that is the truth behind illegal immigration and business in the southwest, that most people are too STUPID to comprehend. the black market is alive and well, and its reaching into the u.s. economy far deeper than you or anyone else is aware of currently....because its the garbage you won't know unless you actually live in it, and see it ....walk down the street, know the culture, know the people or family that are overrun by cartel members now in neighborhoods that I grew up in.Shanty towns in south phoenix, where cartels buy people..into their network, rolling in their brand new pickup trucks ,with shanty homes falling to pieces..

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    Jesus CHRIST!

    Run away!!!

  34. #179
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post

    Run away!!!
    There is no spoon.

  35. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Um. That is what I said. Illegal immigrants are not allowed to vote.
    What you actually wrote in post 155 is:


    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Illegal immigrants can't vote. Only citizens can.
    Stop making crap up!


    JWK

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