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    Saudi Arabia Suspends Diplomatic, Trade Ties With Canada Over "Blatant Interference"

    In a world turned upside down by Trump's unorthodox approach to, well, everything, replete with trade wars and diplomatic scandals, we now have one more, and this one was out of the blue. Late on Sunday, Saudi Arabia unexpectedly unleashed diplomatic hell against Canada when it announced it had suspended diplomatic ties and halted new trade and investment dealings with Canada in a dramatic escalation of a dispute over the kingdom’s arrest of a women’s rights activist.
    Saudi Arabia also recalled its ambassador to Ottawa and ordered the Canadian envoy to the capital Riyadh to leave within 24 hours, according to a foreign ministry statement cited by the Saudi Press Agency.
    The reason behind Saudi Arabian fury and the collapse in relations appears to have been a recent instance of Canadian virtue signalling: the Saudi foreign ministry cited remarks last week by Canadian foreign minister Chrystia Freeland and the Canadian embassy in Riyadh, criticizing Saudi Arabia’s arrests of women’s rights activists including Samar Badawi. Badawi is a Canadian citizen whose brother Raif Badawi, a blogger who was critical of the Saudi government, was already in jail in the kingdom.
    Freeland said in a tweet Aug. 2 that she was “very alarmed to learn that Samar Badawi, Raif Badawi’s sister, has been imprisoned in Saudi Arabia,” and that “Canada stands together with the Badawi family in this difficult time, and we continue to strongly call for the release of both Raif and Samar Badawi."
    Canada's Foreign Policy echoed the statement on twitter one day later.
    Canada is gravely concerned about additional arrests of civil society and women’s rights activists in #SaudiArabia, including Samar Badawi. We urge the Saudi authorities to immediately release them and all other peaceful #humanrights activists.
    — Foreign Policy CAN (@CanadaFP) August 3, 2018
    According to the Saudi statement, "the kingdom views the Canadian position as an affront to the kingdom that requires a sharp response to prevent any party from attempting to meddle with Saudi sovereignty."
    The statement also noted clear that the arrests "were in line with Saudi laws, and those detained have been provided with due process during investigation and trial."
    The loonie slipped as much as 0.2 percent to 1.3019 per U.S. dollar in early trading, following three straight weeks of gains in Canada’s currency - the longest such winning streak since January.
    That said, neither Canada nor Saudi trade will be crippled by the decision: according to Bloomberg, there was a trade flow of $3.23 billion between Saudi Arabia and Canada in 2017, with Saudi Arabia exporting $2.14 billion, or 1%, of its products to the North American nation, and as Bloomberg's Javier Blas said, "I don’t see how this is going to put much pressure on Ottawa."
    In terms of trade, #SaudiArabia accounts for **less than 0.25% of total** Canadian exports (data from @WorldBank here: https://t.co/KgMjo1Adai). I don’t see how this is going to put much pressure on Ottawa. #OOTT
    — Javier Blas (@JavierBlas) August 5, 2018


    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...t-interference
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    Wahabbists go full retard.



    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...76238871961600







    The Tweet has now been deleted, but moments ago the Saudi Government threatened Canada and Canadian citizens
    with a gigantic 9/11 style Salafi Jihadi Terror Attack.

    Insane and disgusting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Wahabbists go full retard.



    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...76238871961600







    The Tweet has now been deleted, but moments ago the Saudi Government threatened Canada and Canadian citizens
    with a gigantic 9/11 style Salafi Jihadi Terror Attack.

    Insane and disgusting!
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

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    Axis of evil Neocons

    Neocon war propaganda. CIA, Saudi-Israel Mossad, John McCain.

    Bring the troops home and forget about those warmongering leaches, they're on their own.


    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    You only show up to attack Trump when he is wrong
    Make America the Land of the Free & the Home of the Brave again

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    Canada plans to seek help from the United Arab Emirates and Britain to defuse an escalating dispute with Saudi Arabia, sources said on Tuesday, but close ally the United States made clear it would not get involved.

    One well placed source said the Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau - which stresses the importance of human rights - planned to reach out to the United Arab Emirates.
    "The key is to work with allies and friends in the region to cool things down, which can happen quickly," said the source, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the situation.
    Another source said Canada would also seek help from Britain. The British government on Tuesday urged the two nations to show restraint.
    The United States, traditionally one of Canada's most important friends, stayed on the sidelines. U.S. President Donald Trump - who criticized Trudeau after a Group of Seven summit in June - has forged tighter ties with Riyadh.
    "Both sides need to diplomatically resolve this together. We can't do it for them; they need to resolve it together," U.S. State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert told a briefing.
    The first Canadian source said Ottawa shared the view of foreign policy experts who believe the Saudi reaction reflected internal strains inside the kingdom, where 32-year-old Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is trying to push through domestic reforms.
    The office of Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland did not respond to requests for comment.
    The dispute looks set to damage what is a modest bilateral trade relationship worth nearly $4 billion a year. Canadian exports to Saudi Arabia totaled about $1.12 billion in 2017, or 0.2 percent of the total value of Canadian exports.
    Canada says it does not know what will happen to a $13 billion defense contract to sell Canadian-made General Dynamics Corp armored vehicles to Saudi Arabia.
    European traders said the main Saudi wheat-buying agency had told grains exporters it will no longer accept Canadian-origin wheat and barley.
    Saudi Arabia has also ordered roughly 15,000 Saudis studying in Canada to leave.


    Thomas Juneau, an assistant professor and Middle East expert at the University of Ottawa, said Saudi irritation at the way the General Dynamics contract was handled also helped explain Riyadh's response.
    The deal was agreed in 2014 by the Conservatives, who shared the Saudi desire for deeper relations, he said. But the task of approving the export permits fell to the Liberals, who were lobbied by human rights activists to say no.
    The Liberals granted the permits but showed little interest in deepening ties with Riyadh amid growing civil society and media attacks on the agreement, Juneau added.
    "That for Saudi Arabia was the source of growing frustration," he said in a phone interview. "(The ambassador) was very clear in saying he was irritated by what he saw as passivity by the Canadian government, which in his view was not resisting that criticism."
    The first Canadian source said Ottawa had no regrets about speaking out on human rights in Saudi Arabia. Canada's ambassador, Dennis Horak, is not in Riyadh. The source said Saudi authorities were aware Horak was due to start a new posting next month.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/canada-as...--finance.html
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    Maybe they can send a rainbow coalition, well diversified, of social misfits to talk sense into those desert heathens.....

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    Saudi Arabia has stopped all medical treatment programs in Canada and is coordinating for the transfer of all Saudi patients from Canadian hospitals to hospitals outside the North American country, the Saudi Press Agency said early on Wednesday.
    The agency cited Saudi Health Attaché in the United States of America and Canada, Dr. Fahd bin Ibrahim Al Tamimi.

    More at: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/08/saud...in-canada.html
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    Russian Market
    Saudi Arabia is said to sell off Canadian assets.

    zerohedge‏ @zerohedge
    The Saudi central bank instructed overseas asset managers to dispose of their Canadian equities, bonds and cash holdings “no matter the cost”

    Lol, full retard. Again...



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    Saudi Arabia said on Wednesday there is no room for mediation in the kingdom's deepening diplomatic dispute with Canada, and that Ottawa knew what it needed to do to "fix its big mistake"."There is nothing to mediate. A mistake has been made and a mistake should be corrected," Foreign Minister Adel al-Jubeir told a news conference in Riyadh.
    In an indication that the quarrel may worsen, Jubeir said that the kingdom was still "considering additional measures" against Canada, but did not elaborate.


    Responding to a question about the reason for the activists' arrests, Jubeir said that charges against them would be made public once their cases reach the courts, repeating earlier allegations that they had been in touch with foreign entities.
    "The matter is not about human rights; it is a matter of national security," the minister said.
    Canadian investments in Saudi Arabia were still ongoing and would not be affected by the dispute, he said.

    Russia voiced support for Saudi Arabia in its worsening row with Canada, telling Ottawa it was unacceptable to lecture the kingdom on human rights.

    Canada's Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is expected to hold a news conference in Montreal, where he will be pressed on the diplomatic crisis.

    More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/saudi-ara...9--sector.html
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    Now, Saudi Arabia’s state airline has announced the suspension of its direct flights to Canada, starting August 13.But the country’s reactions don’t stop there. The kingdom announced an order to withdraw all Saudi citizens studying in Canadian universities, numbering somewhere between 12,000 and 15,000. All scholarships for Saudi students in Canada were also suspended. The students will reportedly be placed in programs in other countries, such as the U.S. or U.K.

    More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudi...102142239.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Wahabbists go full retard.



    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...76238871961600







    The Tweet has now been deleted, but moments ago the Saudi Government threatened Canada and Canadian citizens
    with a gigantic 9/11 style Salafi Jihadi Terror Attack.

    Insane and disgusting!
    The account responsible for the tweet, Infographic KSA, quickly deleted it and issued an apology, saying, “The aircraft was intended to symbolize the return of the ambassador. We realize this was not clear and any other meaning was unintentional.”

    More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/saudi...102142239.html

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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    "Any further step from the Canadian side in that direction will be considered as acknowledgment of our right to interfere in the Canadian domestic affairs," the Saudi Foreign Ministry said. "Canada and all other nations need to know that they can't claim to be more concerned than the kingdom over its own citizens."
    Canada, however, sees the situation differently. "Canada will always stand up for the protection of human rights, very much including women's rights, and freedom of expression around the world," Marie-Pier Baril, a spokeswoman for Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said in a statement. "Our government will never hesitate to promote these values and believes that this dialogue is critical to international diplomacy."

    Judith Dwarkin, chief economist with RS Energy Group in Calgary, said Wednesday that Canada could easily replace the oil it imports from Saudi Arabia should relations with the kingdom deteriorate to the point that trade in crude is halted. She said that eastern Canadian refineries import about 75,000 to 80,000 barrels per day (bpd) of Saudi crude, adding that since its only 10 percent of total Canadian oil imports, it represents a “drop in the bucket” compared to that of the U.S. which covers two-thirds of Canadian oil imports and could increase that level if needed.


    "The Saudis, if they choose to supply less to Canada, will divert those barrels, possibly to China, and U.S. barrels that would have gone to China, but are uncompetitive under Chinese tariffs, come to Canada," Dwarkin said.
    "Basically, the cupboard gets rearranged."

    More at: https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/Int...l-Imports.html
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Saudi foreign minister Adel Al-Jubeir has made a new statement - attempting to talk back The Kingdom's rhetoric somewhat (or perhaps avoid sending its Canadian asset prices tumbling into a firesale).
    "What Canada did was unacceptable.
    Canada committed a big mistake, must rectify it.
    We in Saudi Arabia do not accept dictation, interference.
    There is no need for mediation, Canada knows what it needs to do, it must change its policies, ways with The Kingdom.
    The Saudi measures only apply to new investments [ZH: so no immediate asset dumping]
    Saudis are still weighing other measures to take against Canada."
    The Loonie rebounded:

    * * *

    More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...n-stocks-bonds
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    US refuses to back Canada in Saudi Arabia dispute
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...anada-dispute/





    as long as they pay.... you won't hear a peep from Trump.

    Elijah J. Magnier
    Saudi Arabia mocks the world and pays the West 'indulgences'
    https://ejmagnier.com/2018/08/08/sau...lp-from-trump/

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    It's open season in the Saudi media for all things Canadian.
    The kingdom's rulers this week set the two nations off on a diplomatic and trade brawl, and now journalists have been shoved into the ring.
    Al Riyadh daily published a cartoon showing a red maple leaf dropping between the bare legs of a man wearing bright red socks and shiny black shoes, with the caption, "The fig leaf has fallen." Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has gained attention for his loud footwear.
    The accompanying article quoting various analysts claimed Canada was spreading chaos in Saudi ally Egypt, burnishing the image of terrorists and offering shelter to the Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamic group that opposes absolute monarchies and is banned in Saudi Arabia.


    Al Arabiya TV alleged that Canadian jails are packed because of delays in trials. It also claimed excessive force is used against inmates, food and health services are bad and there's no law that bans the detention of children.
    Homelessness and racism are widespread in Canada, pictures in Al Riyadh newspaper purported to show. In another article, a headline in the paper claimed the kingdom's decision to freeze relations with Canada had "caused confusion" among companies with 100 billion riyals ($26.7 billion) in Saudi-related investments.
    Saudi Arabia's central bank and pension funds have already begun selling Canadian assets, according to people familiar with the matter, but in Canada businesses don't appear overly worried.
    A writer in Al Hayat newspaper said in a piece published Thursday that Ottawa cannot accept it has failed to match an economically superior Saudi Arabia.
    Canadian "hypocrisy is evident in the government's dealings with its indigenous people who suffer from drug abuse, racism and social discrimination and who undoubtedly have been subjected to the most extreme levels of violence, from murder to homelessness and other indignities."


    One Twitter user who responded to the Saudi assault was Jordan Peterson, a Toronto psychology professor whom Al Arabiya claimed was a political prisoner. He tweeted a photo of himself Thursday lounging in a leather chair: "Help! I'm being held prisoner in Canada."
    "And, in case it's not clear. I am no fan of the Saudi state. I think we should refuse all their oil, as of now. We have plenty in Alberta," he added in another tweet.

    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/...g-13147078.php
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    The European Union has asked Saudi Arabia to shed light on the arrests and charges facing women human rights activists, saying that the detainees should be granted due process to defend themselves.

    Saudi Arabia has in recent months detained several women’s rights activists, some of whom had campaigned for the right to drive and an end to the kingdom’s male guardianship system.
    The detentions have triggered a major diplomatic row with Canada after the Canadians demanded the immediate release of the jailed activists.
    The European Commission, the EU executive, said it has contacted Saudi Arabia.
    “The EU has been engaging constructively with the Saudi authorities seeking clarification on the circumstances surrounding the arrests of women human rights defenders in Saudi Arabia, notably with regard to the specific accusations brought against them,” spokeswoman for EU foreign policy chief Federica Mogherini.
    “We have been emphasizing the relevance of the role of human rights defenders and civil society groups in the process of reform which the Kingdom is pursuing as well as the importance of respecting the rules of due process for all those arrested,” she said.
    Earlier on Saturday, Mogherini spoke to Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland on the phone, with both sides agreeing to intensify their cooperation in human rights as well as other areas.

    https://in.reuters.com/article/us-sa...-idUSKBN1KW0JX

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    US refuses to back Canada in Saudi Arabia dispute
    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...anada-dispute/

    Does US know they violate human civil rights, fund extremist neocons and behead humans?
    Is Jarvank wing fully in control of foreign policy now following departure of conservatives base's rock star Steve Bannon?





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    National Newswatch‏@natnewswatch · 11 min.
    Saudi spat with Canada could be ‘proxy’ for U.S. quarrels with Trudeau government, experts say
    https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/08/13...rts-say/153677


    Brad Cabana‏ @bradCabana
    NOT “could be” but rather “is certainly”.
    It’s obvious as the nose on your face the Saudis are helping their US allies screw Canada and Canadians over.
    Remember this folks.

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    Canada responded to news that Saudi Arabia is planning to behead a female activist currently behind bars, in a further escalation of an already-tense diplomatic spat between the two countries.

    The latest development came in a new statement from Canada, repeating its condemnation of how Saudi Arabia treats prisoners in light of reports by Business Insider and other outlets that political activist Israa al-Ghomgham has been sentenced to death.

    "As Minister Freeland has previously stated, Canada is extremely concerned by the arrests of women’s rights activists," a foreign affairs spokesman said in a statement, according to the Globe and Mail.
    "These concerns have been raised with the Saudi government. Canada will always stand up for the protection of human rights, including women’s rights and freedom of expression around the world."
    Two human-rights groups told Business Insider on Tuesday that Saudi Arabia is about to execute al-Ghomgham, who would be the first woman killed in Saudi Arabia solely for her activism (others have been given the death penalty for different offenses).
    al-Ghomgham, 29, was arrested along with her husband in 2015 for supporting peaceful protests against the government, rights groups have said, and she now faces the death penalty.
    Saudi authorities have held five activists facing the death penalty in pretrial detention without legal representation for over two years, Human Rights Watch said. Their next court date is scheduled for October 28, 2018.


    In a statement, Freeland expressed dismay over Saudi Arabia's continued aggression towards protesters.
    The statement did not call specifically for al-Ghomgham's immediate release, unlike in earlier statements where Canada named prisoners it wants freed. Saudi Arabia called the earlier statements "reprehensible and unacceptable use of language".

    More at: https://www.sfgate.com/technology/bu...g-13173784.php
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  24. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Canada responded to news that Saudi Arabia is planning to behead a female activist currently behind bars,
    hmmm.... I thot it had already happened...
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6670377

  25. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    hmmm.... I thot it had already happened...
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post6670377
    Apparently not:
    https://twitter.com/convivir/status/1031585791250767873
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  26. #23
    Our ally Saudi Arabia continues to show its greatness by bombing Yemeni terrorists backed by Iran and loyalty to America and to our great president Trump, unlike our neighbor Canada.

  27. #24
    The raging feud between Saudi Arabia and Canada has hit the United Nations.
    On the margins of the 2018 UN General Assembly session in New York City this week, Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister equated Canada’s call for the release of Saudi women’s rights activists to his own country demanding “the immediate release and independence of Quebec”.
    Adel al-Jubeir called on Canada to apologise for demanding the activists’ release, and to stop treating the kingdom as “a banana republic” if it wanted to resolve the diplomatic dispute between the two countries.
    In August, Saudi Arabia froze new trade with Canada, blocked grain imports, expelled Canada’s ambassador and ordered all Saudi students home after Ottawa called for the release of activists detained for urging more rights for women.
    “It is outrageous from our perspective that a country will sit there and lecture us and make demands. ‘We demand the immediate release’… Really?” Jubeir said at an event at the Council on Foreign Relations in New York on Wednesday, as reported by Reuters.
    “We demand the immediate independence of Quebec and the equal granting of rights to Canadian Indians,” which Canada refers to as the First Nations indigenous people, the minister then added, sarcastically making the comparison to illustrate his point.
    “You can criticise us about human rights, women’s rights… others do and that’s your right,” said Jubeir.
    “You can sit down and talk about it, but demand the immediate release? What are we, a banana republic? Would any country accept it? No! We don’t,” the minister added.

    Jubeir said Canada could easily resolve the situtation by apologising for its actions.
    “We don’t want to be a political football in Canada’s domestic politics. Find another ball to play with,” he said.
    “It’s very easy to fix. Apologise and say you made a mistake.”
    Canadian foreign minister Chrystia Freeland said on Tuesday that she hoped to meet with her Saudi counterpart this week on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly.
    However, the minister said that Ottawa would not be changing its fundamental position.
    “Canada will always stand up for human rights… we feel a particular obligation to women who are fighting for their rights around the world,” she said.
    “And we feel a particular obligation to people who have a personal connection to Canada.”
    Germany and Saudi Arabia agreed earlier this week to end a diplomatic dispute between their countries.
    The spat started last November when Sigmar Gabriel, Germany’s foreign minister at the time, condemned “adventurism” in the Middle East, comments seen as an attack on increasingly assertive Saudi policies, notably in Yemen.

    More at: https://www.globalresearch.ca/free-q...canada/5655608
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Saudi prince knows wuts up lol
    1. Don't lie.
    2. Don't cheat.
    3. Don't steal.
    4. Don't kill.
    5. Don't commit adultery.
    6. Don't covet what your neighbor has, especially his wife.
    7. Honor your father and mother.
    8. Remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy.
    9. Don’t use your Higher Power's name in vain, or anyone else's.
    10. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

    "For the love of money is the root of all evil..." -- I Timothy 6:10, KJV

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Jamesiv1 View Post
    Saudi prince knows wuts up lol

    Tide could be shifting in bad news for MAGA son-in-law's dictator chum as well as alleged butcher dictator's US based neocon allies etc:



    Media attacks on Trump son-in-law escalate following alleged killing of journalist by his chum


    As scandal involving journalist torture/killing by Trump's son-in-law Kushner's chum dictator grows, media attacks against him have escalated.
    Kushner still seems to be allied with alleged butcher dictator. If accusations in these reports are confirmed, can GOP survive if it did not distance itself from Jarvanka wing?

    Today's front page:
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    Saudi Arabia’s barbaric, blood-soaked tyrant MBS is no Crown Prince Charming - it’s time President Trump held his medieval mate’s feet to the fire

    By Piers Morgan
    18 October 2018

    What’s the worst way to possibly die?

    It’s hard to imagine anything more sickening and barbaric than what is alleged to have happened to Saudi Arabian journalist Jamal Khashoggi, a columnist for the Washington Post.

    He was apparently lured to the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, where he was confronted by a 15-man hit squad that had flown in from Riyadh to murder him.
    But not, it is claimed, quickly.

    Jamal Khashoggi died in one of the worst ways imaginable. For seven long minutes he was tortured and hacked to pieces with a bone-saw while he was still alive. His body carted off in bags to be dissolved in acid

    He was dragged from the consul-general’s office to the table of a study next door.
    There, for seven long, agonising minutes, Khashoggi was reportedly tortured and hacked to pieces with a bone-saw while he was still alive.
    He was decapitated and had his fingers cut off one by one.
    Then, the severed remains of his torso were put in 15 plastic bags and removed, to be later dissolved in acid.
    Khashoggi’s ‘horrendous’ screams of pain were so loud they were heard downstairs by a witness.
    The chief executioner was allegedly ‘Dr Death’ Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, ‘head of forensic evidence’ for the Saudi general security department.
    His official title is President of the Saudi Fellowship of Forensic Pathology and he’s a man who enjoys his work.
    As Tubaigy began to dismember Khashoggi’s body, he apparently put on earphones and listened to music, advising other members of the squad to do the same.


    'Forensic expert': The chief executioner was allegedly ‘Dr Death’ Salah Muhammad al-Tubaigy, ‘head of forensic evidence’ for the Saudi general security department. He’s a man who enjoys his work. As Tubaigy began to dismember Khashoggi’s body, he apparently put on earphones and listened to music, advising other members of the squad to do the same

    ‘When I do this job, I listen to music,’ he was recorded as saying. ‘You should do (that) too.’

    Aftewards, cleaning crews were brought in to scrub and repaint the blood-stained crime scene.

    The more we learn about this horrific murder, the more disgusting it gets.

    But one thing is increasingly obvious: he wasn’t killed ‘accidentally’ during a botched interrogation, as Saudi sources are desperately trying to suggest.

    The consulate witness who heard the screams was clear: ‘They came to kill him to kill him, not interrogate him.’

    Of course they did.
    A 15-man team of highly trained men including royal House of Saud bodyguards and intelligence officers weren’t sent from Saudi Arabia to Turkey to have a ‘little chat’ with Khashoggi.
    They were sent to silence him – permanently.

    And to do it in such a despicable and depraved manner that it would deter others from following his path.
    And they would never have dared do this without the express knowledge and approval of Saudi Arabia’s new 33-year-old crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, who likes to call himself ‘MBS’.
    What had Khashoggi’s done to offend MBS?
    Simple: he dared to tell the truth.

    The 15-person execution squad would never have dared do this without the express knowledge and approval of Saudi Arabia’s new 33-year-old crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman. What had Khashoggi’s done to offend MBS? Simple: he dared to tell the truth





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  31. #27
    Ragıp Soylu
    @ragipsoylu
    1 hod.
    #Khashoggi update;

    • Police found traces of hydrofluoric acid and other chemicals inside Saudi residence’s well, drain system: Al Jazeera English
    • Two weeks could be enough to dissolve the body,bones: Turkish media
    • Police stopped the search for body: Al Jazeera Arabic

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Maybe they can send a rainbow coalition, well diversified, of social misfits to talk sense into those desert heathens.....
    ...and not let them return.
    Last edited by RJB; 11-09-2018 at 06:51 AM.
    ...

  33. #29
    The picture wasn't a stroke of brilliant diplomacy. However, there is much wisdom to be gleaned from the quotation.
    Quote Originally Posted by goldenequity View Post
    Wahabbists go full retard.



    https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/statu...76238871961600







    The Tweet has now been deleted, but moments ago the Saudi Government threatened Canada and Canadian citizens
    with a gigantic 9/11 style Salafi Jihadi Terror Attack.

    Insane and disgusting!
    ...



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