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    Exclamation Iowa - Man sentenced to 15 years in prison for burning LGBT flag

    You can burn the US flag all you want, you can throw a crucifix in a barrel of piss and get taxpayer funding, you can dress up like a woman and flash your dick to 7 year old kids...but by God and Sonny Jesus, you'd better not burn the fagggot flag.


    Fifteen years in Iowa jail for burning pride flag

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50861259

    Adolfo Martinez, 30, admitted to his crimes in a jailhouse interview

    A US judge has handed down a sentence of at least 15 years to a man who stole an LGBT pride flag from a church and burned it outside a strip club.

    Adolfo Martinez, 30, admitted to the media that he took the flag from Ames United Church of Christ due to his animosity towards homosexuals.

    He was found guilty last month of hate crime harassment, reckless use of fire and being a habitual offender.

    The incident occurred around midnight on 11 June in downtown Ames, Iowa.

    Police say the crime spree began at Dangerous Curves, a strip club, when police were called because a man was making threats. By the time they arrived, he had already been kicked out by bar staff.

    After leaving the club, Martinez then travelled to the church and ripped down its flag. He then returned to the strip club where he used lighter fluid to burn the flag in the street. He also threatened to burn down the bar.

    He was arrested later that day, and told local media in a jail house interview that he was "guilty as charged".

    "It was an honour to do that. It's a blessing from the Lord," he said, explaining that he did it because he "opposed homosexuality".

    "I burned down their pride, plain and simple," he told KCCI-TV. The interview was entered into the trial as evidence against him.

    Church pastor Eileen Gebbie, who identifies as gay woman, says she agrees that Martinez' actions were motivated by hatred.

    "I often experienced Ames as not being as progressive as many people believe it is, and there still is a very large closeted queeer community here," she told the Des Moines Register when he was convicted in November.

    "But 12 people that I don't know, who have no investment in me or this congregation, said this man committed a crime, and it was a crime borne of bigotry and hatred."

    Story County Attorney Jessica Reynolds said Martinez was the first person in the county's history to be convicted of a hate crime.

    "The hard reality is there are people who target individuals and commit crimes against individuals because of their race, gender, sexual orientation," she told the Ames Tribune.

    "And when that happens it's so important that as a society we stand up and people have severe consequences for those actions."
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-19-2019 at 08:38 PM.
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    Hate crimes laws always include "National Origin", when will American flag burners be treated like this?
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    If this account is accurate, it's theft and destruction of property-not just flag burning. I don't mind burning skycloths, but stealing other people's stuff is not cool. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    If this account is accurate, it's theft and destruction of property-not just flag burning. I don't mind burning skycloths, but stealing other people's stuff is not cool. :P
    It's not worth 15 years.
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    Its Iowa , What do you expect . Soon they will also pick the dem presidential front runner for all the RPF leftists
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Hate crimes laws always include "National Origin", when will American flag burners be treated like this?

    Are you saying they ought to be?
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    Freedom of speech is one thing but such flag burning among other things would also undermine global MAGA campaign for LGBTQ civil rights. Having too much disconnect between domestic and global policies would also do the same.
    15 years punishment seems disproportional though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    If this account is accurate, it's theft and destruction of property-not just flag burning. I don't mind burning skycloths, but stealing other people's stuff is not cool. :P
    ^this.

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    "and there still is a very large closeted ***** community here,"
    I'm gonna test the censor.

    Bitch?
    Prick?
    *****.

    --------ENd test.

    Wow. Can't say *****.

    One more. ******.

    Okay can't say that either. But qu.eer isn't a bad word. Hell the lady described her own community with that word, lmao. $#@!ing political correctness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    Are you saying they ought to be?
    No.

    I'm saying they should be according to the law, my point is that the law is only applied to conservatives these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenlyboy34 View Post
    If this account is accurate, it's theft and destruction of property-not just flag burning. I don't mind burning skycloths, but stealing other people's stuff is not cool. :P
    Nothing at all about theft or destruction of private property...which I would not have a problem with convicting of that.

    He was found guilty last month of hate crime harassment, reckless use of fire and being a habitual offender.
    Clearly and admittedly he stole and destroyed about $20 worth of private property.

    Make him pay for the fagg flag and do some community service.

    15 years in the state pen is a message:

    The sodomites are a protected class, do not raise your finger or your voice against them in any way, or doom on you.
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-19-2019 at 08:42 PM.
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    15 years?

    That's about what he'd have gotten if he'd lit the weirdo up....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    15 years in the state pen is a message:

    The sodomites are a protected class, do not raise your finger or your voice against them in any way, or doom on you.
    And none of us will....except some spick named Adolfo Martinez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I'm gonna test the censor.

    Bitch?
    Prick?
    *****.

    --------ENd test.

    Wow. Can't say *****.

    One more. ******.

    Okay can't say that either. But qu.eer isn't a bad word. Hell the lady described her own community with that word, lmao. $#@!ing political correctness.
    Hommo is banned as well.

    ****

    See?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    And none of us will....except some spick named Adolfo Martinez.
    That needs a "Conflicted Space Ranger - Difficult Choice" meme:

    Illegals or Queeers?

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-19-2019 at 08:52 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    15 years?

    That's about what he'd have gotten if he'd lit the weirdo up....
    15 years would be too light of a sentence. He'd get life in prison if he lit a weirdo up.
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    I have to wonder, if he had been muslim would he still have got 15 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Origanalist View Post
    I have to wonder, if he had been muslim would he still have got 15 years?
    In that case he probably would have gotten off scott free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nothing at all about theft or destruction of private property...which I would not have a problem with convicting of that.



    Clearly and admittedly he stole and destroyed about $20 worth of private property.

    Make him pay for the fagg flag and do some community service.


    15 years in the state pen is a message:

    The sodomites are a protected class, do not raise your finger or your voice against them in any way, or doom on you.
    Indeed-Making the victim whole is rational justice. Beyond that is petty scheudenfreude-and in this case a sort of shaming and persecution as you rightly point out.
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    Church pastor Eileen Gebbie, of the Divine Church of Mental Gymnastics.

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    Completely ridicules.
    But honestly what kind of a church hosts a LGBT flag?
    Last edited by AngryCanadian; 12-19-2019 at 10:52 PM.

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    I don't think it is cool to destroy/steal someone's property. 15 years seems like a pretty hard sentence unless he is a repeat offender. If I were I judge I would want to be on the side of the property owner.

    I do believe labeling a crime a hate crime is causing some uppity stuff like the Jessie Smollet stunt. It's all show biz...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    In that case he probably would have gotten off scott free.
    Derogatory country of origin slur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Completely ridicules.
    But honestly what kind of a church hosts a LGBT flag?
    They are all over the place.

    Churches that think sin and vice are things to be proud of.
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    Iowa man who burned LGBTQ flag sentenced to 16 years

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...gbtq-flag-sen/

    An Iowa man who was found guilty of lighting a local church’s LGBTQ flag on fire was sentenced to more than 16 years in prison Wednesday.
    Adolfo Martinez, 30, was found guilty last month of a hate crime, third-degree harassment and reckless use of fire after admitting to police in June that he stole a pride banner hanging outside the Ames United Church of Christ and set it on fire using lighter fluid about two blocks away outside the Dangerous Curves Gentleman’s Club, The Des Moines Register reported.
    Story County Attorney Jessica Reynolds said in June that the hate crime charge was added because Mr. Martinez targeted the church’s property because of “what it represents as far as sexual orientation.”


    Mr. Martinez was sentenced to 15 years for the hate crime charge, one year for reckless use of fire and 30 days for harassment, all of which will be served consecutively, the Associated Press reported.
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    That is excessive sentence. Where is the outrage over this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    Completely ridicules.
    But honestly what kind of a church hosts a LGBT flag?
    One who is not familiar with God's Word and falsely teaching. Leviticus 18 is pretty clear.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Nothing at all about theft or destruction of private property...which I would not have a problem with convicting of that.



    Clearly and admittedly he stole and destroyed about $20 worth of private property.

    Make him pay for the fagg flag and do some community service.

    15 years in the state pen is a message:

    The sodomites are a protected class, do not raise your finger or your voice against them in any way, or doom on you.
    This. All this. 15 $#@!ing years. SMDH.

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    15 years??? Sheesh.

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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