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    Once Pres. ends the US war in syria and Afghanistan

    Will the anti war segments embrace him ?
    Do something Danke



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    No.
    They will embrace war.
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    Have we invaded Kuwait or Jordan recently? Seems like a waste to transport all of those troops back home if there's still countries over there we can still invade
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Have we invaded Kuwait or Jordan recently? Seems like a waste to transport all of those troops back home if there's still countries over there we can still invade
    Turkey.
    What could be better than Turkey for Christmas?
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    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Turkey.
    What could be better than Turkey for Christmas?
    Turkey is in NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    Turkey is in NATO.
    Good, then we will get to fight the rest of NATO, that'll teach them to lean on us for their defense.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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    Ending wars might not be about ending wars. It could be all about distraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schifference View Post
    Ending wars might not be about ending wars. It could be all about distraction.
    Any collusion?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Turkey.
    What could be better than Turkey for Christmas?
    Prime Rib.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Will the anti war segments embrace him ?
    Some of them. The ones who are really anti-war, as opposed to the ones who pay lip service to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    No.
    They will embrace war.
    You do realize that one large anti-war segment is called 'those libertarians', right? Why would libertarians turn into warmongers? Just to get away from people like you?

    You may exhibit obnoxious behaviors from time to time, but that's not worth abandoning good principles over.
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    You only want the freedoms that will undermine the nation and lead to the destruction of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Some of them. The ones who are really anti-war, as opposed to the ones who pay lip service to it.



    You do realize that one large anti-war segment is called 'those libertarians', right? Why would libertarians turn into warmongers? Just to get away from people like you?

    You may exhibit obnoxious behaviors from time to most of the time, but that's not worth abandoning good principles over.
    Fixed that for you Brother.
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    "Let it not be said that we did nothing." - Dr. Ron Paul. "Stand up for what you believe in, even if you are standing alone." - Sophie Magdalena Scholl
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    Ending?! But where will all these people makes their cash??








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    It won't last.


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    After Syria, Trump Should Clean Out His National Security Bureaucracy
    John Bolton should be the first to go.

    President Donald Trump … ordered the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria. Right on cue, official Washington had a collective mental breakdown. Neocons committed to war, progressives targeting Trump, and centrists determined to dominate the world unleashed an orgy of shrieking and caterwauling. …

    The president’s own appointees, the “adult” foreign policy advisors he surrounded himself with, disagreed with him on almost all of this—not just micromanaging the Middle East, but subsidizing Europeans in NATO, underwriting South Korea, and negotiating with North Korea. His aides played him at every turn …

    three months ago, National Security Advisor John Bolton announced an entirely new mission: “We’re not going to leave as long as Iranian troops are outside Iranian borders and that includes Iranian proxies and militias.” That was chutzpah on a breathtaking scale. It meant effectively that the U.S. was entitled to invade and dismember nations, back aggressive wars begun by others, and scatter bases and deployments around the world. … Bolton was effectively planning a permanent presence, one that could bring American forces into contact with Russian, Syrian, and Turkish forces, as well as Iranians…

    Apparently this direct insubordination came to a head in a phone call between President Trump and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. “Why are you still there?” the latter asked Trump, who turned to Bolton. The national security advisor was on the call, but could offer no satisfactory explanation. …

    Still in place is Secretary of State Mike Pompeo… an inveterate hawk, including toward Tehran, which he insists must surrender to both the U.S. and Saudi Arabia as part of any negotiation. He’s adopted the anti-Iran agenda in Syria as his own. His department offered no new approach to Russia over Ukraine, instead steadily increasing sanctions, without effect …

    Most dangerous is Bolton. He publicly advocated war with both Iran and North Korea before his appointment … He’s demonstrated that he has no compunctions about defying the president … Indeed, Bolton is well-positioned to undermine even obvious successes, such as the peaceful opening with North Korea. …

    President Trump has surrounded himself with neocons, inveterate hawks, and ivory tower warriors. With virtually no aides around him who believe in his policies or were even willing to implement them, he looked like a George Bush/Barack Obama retread. …

    However, Trump took charge when he insisted on holding the summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong-un. Now U.S. forces are set to come home from Syria, and it appears that he may reduce or even eliminate the garrison in Afghanistan …

    Trump should use Secretary Mattis’s departure as an opportunity to refashion his national security team. Who is to succeed Mattis at the Pentagon? … Jim Webb ... Or perhaps it’s time for a second round for former senator Chuck Hagel, …

    Next to go should be Bolton. …

    Equally important, though somewhat less urgent, is finding a new secretary of state. Although Pompeo has not so ostentatiously undermined his boss, he appears to oppose every effort by the president to end a war, drop a security commitment, or ease a conflict. …

    Who to appoint? Perhaps Tennessee’s John Duncan … Senator Rand Paul and Representatives Justin Amash and Walter Jones, for instance.

    Once the top officials have been replaced, the process should continue downwards. … He needs to fill his administration with allies, not adversaries. …
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    back the bus up. Until we don't hear murmurs of increased troop strength in Iraq and such, then I'm not holding my breath that he's "anti war".
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever.

    It won't take very long to get them home but it won't be overnight either but Iraq says they can't stay and they are coming home just like Trump said.

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    I have no real reason to think he is " anti war " so to speak but I am hopeful he will follow through , do the right thing and pull all of those troops out . There is no valid reason to stay .
    Do something Danke

  21. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by AZJoe View Post
    Donald Trump took office in January 2017.

    What was 2015 + 2016 compared to 2017 + 2018?
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    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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