Netanyahu Has Made Up His Mind to Attack Iran

[John F Kennedy III]

And those that finance them don't care who wins,, they still give the orders and hold the purse strings.

When they say jump the puppets jump.

This $#@! has been planed a long time,, The game board is arranged,, all the pieces in place.

This is not about winning or losing,, It is about doing the masters bidding.

Exactly this.

[Toureg89]

you've gotta watch your CSPAN. AIPAC speech after speech was war monger after war monger, alarmist after alarmist, propagandist after propagandist.

this. addressing AIPAC isnt exactly a formal declaration of war. there might be writing on the wall, but its not happening right this moment, so its purely speculation.

a man saying he dislikes his neighbor doesnt mean hes a minute away from loading his rifle and shooting the neighbor. its just talk.

israel and iran are separated by 2 or 3 countries depending on the route taken, and by thousands of miles, so they can afford to fluff up their feathers without actually getting into a fight. its counterproductive toward peace, but bluffing is one of the tools of politicians. doesnt mean war is inevitable,

[Hyperion]

Clearly there is nothing to worry about here. Have you forgotten we have the Nobel peace prize winner as president?

But seriously. Obama is a Democrat, he needs to have the perception that he's against war..... There will be a compromise and there will be war.. It's kind of like Republicans need to have the perception they are against the growth of government....

And that is the best summation of American politics I've read in a while. It's a total illusion and both sides ultimately compromise for the welfare warfare state.

[Orgoonian]

[SeanSerritella]

Obama is stalling until after the election. He doesn't want to attack Iran so he's telling Israel to let sanctions work. If he wins re-election then he's going to tell Israel to go screw.

Israel is also stalling because they want "our" soldiers to die in a war. They don't want their own to die.

[Noblegeorge]

$#@!, my brother lives in Jerusalem. This could be the start of a terrible terrible conflict.

[idiom]

Everybody knows that there are two (!) countries between Iran and Israel right? If it comes to flinging projectiles Israel wins hands down.

Also, Israel is the master of surprise assaults. If they are saying they are going to attack then they are clearly either going to sit on their hands, or it has already happened.

How does Iran even begin to attack Israel?

[Working Poor]

Then they both must think that a majority of Americans want to attack Iran.

They do not care what Americans think

[heavenlyboy34]

And that is the best summation of American politics I've read in a while. It's a total illusion and both sides ultimately compromise for the welfare warfare state.

qft

[Brett85]

They do not care what Americans think

They don't care about what the voters think who are actually going to decide the upcoming election?

[heavenlyboy34]

They don't care about what the voters think who are actually going to decide the upcoming election?

Not likely. Statistically, the majority of the GOP primary voters are favoring war mongers. Most of the rest of the people can be dragged into it with a big load of lies and propaganda-like every other war, if modern history is any indicator.

[Demigod]

Everybody knows that there are two (!) countries between Iran and Israel right? If it comes to flinging projectiles Israel wins hands down.

Also, Israel is the master of surprise assaults. If they are saying they are going to attack then they are clearly either going to sit on their hands, or it has already happened.

How does Iran even begin to attack Israel?

It is not that simple.

Although there are 2 countries between Israel and Iran.If Israel attacks Iran that immediately involves Hezbollah (Lebanon),Hamas(Palestine) and Syria.They have an estimated 20 000 missiles (short and medium range ) pointed towards Israel.Last time they started attacking Israel with missile barrages,Israel invaded Lebanon which proved a disaster.They lost dozens of tanks and a lot of man without dealing any kind of significant blow to Hezbollah nor taking much ground and that was with air power.

Without air power,because they will be busy bombing over Iran a mission that would take a week at least to accomplish in the best scenarios they will have their country under 24/7 bombardment by an enemy who is well entrenched and they will have to attack him to stop the bombardment.

On the other hand Israel does not have the capabilities of the USAF.They must relay on surprise attacks and be fast before the Iranians can adapt their defenses.Also Iran has the S-300 than the battle turns into attrition of whether the Israeli can destroy enough facilities before they lose so many aircraft so not to have any capabilities at all.

So without USA direct involvement Israel can hit Iran hard and fast but can hardly keep the pressure for a longer period of time.The Iranians don't have the capabilities to do surgical strikes like Israel but can pound Israel with missiles for a long period of time.

[JuicyG]

It is not that simple.

Although there are 2 countries between Israel and Iran.If Israel attacks Iran that immediately involves Hezbollah (Lebanon),Hamas(Palestine) and Syria.They have an estimated 20 000 missiles (short and medium range ) pointed towards Israel.Last time they started attacking Israel with missile barrages,Israel invaded Lebanon which proved a disaster.They lost dozens of tanks and a lot of man without dealing any kind of significant blow to Hezbollah nor taking much ground and that was with air power.

Without air power,because they will be busy bombing over Iran a mission that would take a week at least to accomplish in the best scenarios they will have their country under 24/7 bombardment by an enemy who is well entrenched and they will have to attack him to stop the bombardment.

On the other hand Israel does not have the capabilities of the USAF.They must relay on surprise attacks and be fast before the Iranians can adapt their defenses.Also Iran has the S-300 than the battle turns into attrition of whether the Israeli can destroy enough facilities before they lose so many aircraft so not to have any capabilities at all.

So without USA direct involvement Israel can hit Iran hard and fast but can hardly keep the pressure for a longer period of time.The Iranians don't have the capabilities to do surgical strikes like Israel but can pound Israel with missiles for a long period of time.

If Iran hits Israel, US&Allies will get involved and then it`s game over for Iran.

[pcosmar]

If Iran hits Israel, US&Allies will get involved and then it`s game over for Iran.

Perhaps,,
I actually expect the Israelis to ignite a war that encompasses the entire region (WWIII)

I would like the US to stay out of it.. Very likely China will back Iran,, if not Russia as well. I think our involvement would guarantee Russia joined.

Israel will not survive it.

But then,, that was never the intention.

[JuicyG]

Perhaps,,
I actually expect the Israelis to ignite a war that encompasses the entire region (WWIII)

I would like the US to stay out of it.. Very likely China will back Iran,, if not Russia as well. I think our involvement would guarantee Russia joined.

Israel will not survive it.

But then,, that was never the intention.

China and Russia know all too well they`ll lose a war with US and Nato. They just don`t have the required firepower and they know it. Russia and China will keep on beating the drums but won`t be able to do much about it. So I think it`s very likely they`ll stay out of it and watch Iran suffer a regime change.

[pcosmar]

China and Russia know all too well they`ll lose a war with US and Nato.

What makes you think it has anything to do with winning a war?

It is about reducing population and ushering in a One World Government.
It ain't about winning a war.. When it starts,, EVERYBODY LOSES.

[Demigod]

China and Russia know all too well they`ll lose a war with US and Nato. They just don`t have the required firepower and they know it. Russia and China will keep on beating the drums but won`t be able to do much about it. So I think it`s very likely they`ll stay out of it and watch Iran suffer a regime change.

Who needs superior military firepower when on one side you have nations whose population that are accustomed to austerity and on the other side nations where a very big part of the population thinks that college is their natural god given right.

If the middle east burns and Russia (worlds second biggest producer of war ) is in war with the west (here Venezuela should be mentioned as well ), do you have any idea what that means for Western Europe ?

It means that in the first winter there will be millions dead because most of Europe runs on Russian natural gas.

It will be a multiple front war for NATO.At home (with their own population ) and abroad with their enemy's.China can sacrifice population,Russia can sacrifice territory,what can NATO sacrifice ? Absolutely nothing because even now it is all being kept together with duck tape and spit .

Do you think that Eastern European NATO members and Turkey will go to war with Russia over Iran? Think again.

Now yes you are right that Russia and China have their own price and most of the time if your enemy's offer enough they would sell you out.But in this case they are being pushed into a corner.If Iran falls Russia will have its entire southern border at even more risk by Muslim fundamentalists and China will lose the guaranteed oil supply it desperately needs .

Personally I don't even care.

For me the best scenario is that Russia,China,Iran,Syria and NATO,Israel on the other hand to have a long,long war where they end in a bloody stalemate in the Middle East until they all self destruct under the burden of war.And of course no one is stupid enough to use nukes.And also I hope that for once in the last 2000 years the region where I come from will not be one of the main theaters of battle.

[SeanSerritella]

What makes you think it has anything to do with winning a war?

It is about reducing population and ushering in a One World Government.
It ain't about winning a war.. When it starts,, EVERYBODY LOSES.

Also, our government would like a prolonged war so the MIC would make a fortune.

What I'd like to know is why do the Evangelical Christians keep protecting Israel? Don't they want to see Israel's demise so the second coming of Christ will form in the clouds and re-start his kingdom?

[pcosmar]

Also, our government would like a prolonged war so the MIC would make a fortune.

What I'd like to know is why do the Evangelical Christians keep protecting Israel? Don't they want to see Israel's demise so the second coming of Christ will come in the clouds and re-start his kingdom?

A lot of false Doctrine that was introduced into the churches over 100 years ago, and taught ever since.
Christ will return. But many have been taught that they will escape the $#@! that happens first.

Many will fall away when it becomes clear that they don't escape it. And they will have helped bring it about.

[Hyperion]

A lot of false Doctrine that was introduced into the churches over 100 years ago, and taught ever since.
Christ will return. But many have been taught that they will escape the $#@! that happens first.

Many will fall away when it becomes clear that they don't escape it. And they will have helped bring it about.

Can you post a link about this. I'd be interested in reading more on the subject.

[RickyJ]

We have only been hearing this about to attack Iran story for about 6 years now. They are bluffing. If they really do attack Iran Israel will be really wiped off the map.

[goldwater's ghost]

israel cant take out iran's nuclear sites. they will only attack if the US is willing to step in after the attack. unless obama agrees this is all bluff

[pcosmar]

Can you post a link about this. I'd be interested in reading more on the subject.

The best link is the Bible.
but there are some online,
Here is one
http://www.newfoundationspubl.org/rapture1.htm
This is another,
http://www.askelm.com/essentials/ess025.htm

There are some who say it was a deliberate deception that was introduced and spread through the Commentary of the Scofield Bible.
It is and has been a widely used study bible. Whether deliberate, or just error, it has spread,, and is widely accepted.
It just has no real basis in scripture.

[BlackTerrel]

We have only been hearing this about to attack Iran story for about 6 years now. They are bluffing. If they really do attack Iran Israel will be really wiped off the map.

That's a misquote. They won't be wiped off the map they'll just be erased from the pages of time.

Apparently that's a big difference.

[ExPatPaki]

That's a misquote. They won't be wiped off the map they'll just be erased from the pages of time.

Apparently that's a big difference.

It's not a big difference to dumb asses.

[pcosmar]

That's a misquote. They won't be wiped off the map they'll just be erased from the pages of time.

Apparently that's a big difference.

Actually,, Zionism (political system) will be wiped from the earth. The land mass will remain.
And yes there will be a major war.. The Anti-Christ will stand in the blasted remains of Jerusalem.
This will be shortly before Christs return.

[Noblegeorge]

Actually,, Zionism (political system) will be wiped from the earth. The land mass will remain.
And yes there will be a major war.. The Anti-Christ will stand in the blasted remains of Jerusalem.
This will be shortly before Christs return.

Keep drinking that kool-aid.

[pcosmar]

Keep drinking that kool-aid.

Keep burying your head in the sand.

There are scriptural predictions and there are"other" predictions that describe these events.
(current events)World events are lining up in the same manner.

You can ignore it if you like, or you can make your own preparations.

[UK4Paul]

Actually,, Zionism (political system) will be wiped from the earth. The land mass will remain.
And yes there will be a major war.. The Anti-Christ will stand in the blasted remains of Jerusalem.
This will be shortly before Christs return.

Thank goodness scripture says nothing of the sort.

[pcosmar]

Thank goodness scripture says nothing of the sort.

Actually there are several references to a major war in the area and also that the "Anti-Christ" will stand in Jerusalem.

There are also Lucifarian writings that state the intention to cause a war and destroy all religions ,, and to rule the world.

Oh, and a key feature.. Political Zionism is Not Judaism,, And is NOT the children of Israel spoken of in the Bible.
Christ will gather The remnant of Judah when he returns. NOT BEFORE.