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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    And unlike some people here, I don't even get paid!
    Leeeseee..... @TheCount makes an average of 3 posts a day- same as you, while some other insulter/name-callers on the forum average 40+ a day. Maybe they're the ones getting paid?
    There is no spoon.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by CCTelander View Post
    "You must spread some Reputation atound..."
    Covered!
    There is no spoon.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by r3volution 3.0 View Post
    That's my thought.

    (hysterical) "But when should the schools open!?"

    Never...?

    Do people mistakenly think that they provide some kind of education?

    Take 1/1000th of the budget, buy them books, and let them read those books.

    Sorry teachers' union, you were rendered obsolete by Gutenberg.

    We don't need to pay people to stand around reading to people because books are expensive.

    ...the original purpose of that format, unchanged for near a millennium.
    What about these books? Why books? Books cost money. The internet exists, books not needed.


    Get rid of the schools and the teachers and all that.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    What about these books? Why books? Books cost money. The internet exists, books not needed.


    Get rid of the schools and the teachers and all that.
    I'm a fan of physical books, myself, and they're very cheap these days, especially older books, which are most of the books worth reading.

    But e-books are fine too, and even cheaper.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Uh... that's called SARCASM. Please stop with the insults on every one of his posts.

    And, public prison schools should be permanently closed.
    It's not sarcasm, he's just a liar. Click the post link and you'll be able to read the rest of the sentence which he omitted from his signature.
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  8. #36
    Caught a minute or so of local news. They were having a discussion about whether all of this cultural Marxism (BLM, white privilege, etc) is appropriate at the workplace. The guest said the workplace is the best place, and it must be “discussed” there.

    The workplace is now an indoctrination center for adults, like government school is for kids.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Caught a minute or so of local news. They were having a discussion about whether all of this cultural Marxism (BLM, white privilege, etc) is appropriate at the workplace. The guest said the workplace is the best place, and it must be “discussed” there.

    The workplace is now an indoctrination center for adults, like government school is for kids.
    Report to your Struggle Session, comrade.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  10. #38
    Because they are Fake Conservatives!

  11. #39

    https://twitter.com/JordanGundy/stat...93930887176192
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/JordanGundy/stat...93930887176192
    Teachers should be not allowed to unionize since they are getting Government money.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Leeeseee..... @TheCount...
    Did you ask him his voting choice?




    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's not sarcasm, he's just a liar.

    LOL. I've caught you being blatantly deceptive multiple times. I've seen you people doing this exact same thing elsewhere.

    If you're willing to be deceptive on a mere forum, I can't imagine the lengths your ilk will go in real life.







    Click the post link and you'll be able to read the rest of the sentence which he omitted from his signature.

    LOL. It's not omitted. It's right there.

    Do you label anyone a liar who has ever posted a quote?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    Did you ask him his voting choice?
    Ya mean horse dung or cow dung?
    There is no spoon.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by idiom View Post
    Boomers are adult children and having actual children around impinges on their freedom.

    They want their daycare centers back.
    This^^ Public schools are glorified daycare. I've worked in one and can testify to this fact.
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  17. #44

    DeSantis appointee overrides local officials, issues emergency order reopening all Florida schools
    The order will require all schools to be open "at least" five days a week to offer in-person instruction

    July 23, 2020
    President Trump mirrors DeSantis’ stance on reopening schools
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump: 'Shelter those at high risk, let the young and healthy go back to school and work'

    “Given these considerations, we believe many school districts can now reopen safely, provided they implement mitigation measures and health protocols to protect families, protect teachers, and to protect students. And we do have to protect the teachers and the families also; we have to remember that.”

    “Our strategy to safely reopen schools mirrors our approach nationwide. As we race toward the completion of a vaccine and therapeutics, the responsible path is to shelter those at highest risk, while allowing those at lower risk -- much lower, in the case of young children -- to resume work and school and -- as long as everyone practices vigilant hygiene and social distancing. We want that.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Why are "conservatives" pushing to re-open schools?

    The usual suspects raising hell about the schools not opening this fall...this baffles me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Because they are Fake Conservatives!

    EM.

    I dunno, painting top GOPA wing funded laeders as 'fake conservatives' could further increase risk of GOP base staying home during Nov 2020 election. Progressive Socialsts or not, current liberal version of GOP is all they got as a dimming ray of hope.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Ender View Post
    Ya mean horse dung or cow dung?

    Count Dung
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

  19. #46
    because conservatives are hypocrites.

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The usual suspects raising hell about the schools not opening this fall...this baffles me.

    The best thing that can happen is these kids do not get placed back in the government indoctrination centers.

    This is win - win - win: the kids don't get Marxist-Queeer brainwashing, it encourages stronger families and when property tax time comes around don't pay...Defund the Schools...why should anybody pay for nothing?




    Home Education Surges as Teachers’ Unions Block Reopening of Schools

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ening-schools/

    Dr. Susan Berry 20 Jul 2020

    As teachers’ unions and their Democrat allies keep looking to the federal government for billions more in taxpayer funds before they consider reopening government schools, creative American parents are pushing past the politics and inventing their own ideal learning environments for their children — many of which involve some form of home education.

    Good Morning America (GMA) and the New York Times are just two sources of stories on how parents in the United States are refusing to engage in the coronavirus political wars when what is at stake is their children’s education.

    At GMA, the topic last week was the “growing trend” of “microschooling,” a home-based education option in which several families share the responsibilities of teaching their multi-aged children.

    The Microschool Coalition (MSC) is helping parents to “transform education” by assisting with learning design and resources. Parents visiting the MSC website can get help with how to open their own microschool.

    Maureen O’Shaughnessy, Ed.D., MSC founder, said microschools “are in demand with waiting lists because smaller and more communal makes kids get served better.”

    “In this time of pandemic, it’s an added bonus,” she told GMA. “They can be much safer than larger schools. Their social distancing, the six-feet apart, is much more doable.”

    The Times reminded its readers that “not everyone hates school at home.”

    “While some parents are counting down the days till they can get their kids back into the classroom, a growing number of families are thinking about home schooling this fall,” the Times observed.

    Other media, meanwhile, are introducing their stories about the battle over reopening schools with headlines that suggest parents never knew their child’s education was their responsibility.

    The Star’s “Desperate US parents take their children’s education into their own hands,” and Ms. Magazine’s “There is No Plan for Opening Schools; Parents Must Fend for Themselves,” are just two examples.

    “With the new school year right around the corner, it’s time to accept that the leadership parents were waiting on to execute a safe plan for the fall semester isn’t coming,” Ms. Magazine announced, appearing to be stunned that the government failed to come through for parents.

    While Ms. Magazine views this moment in time as a calamity, U.S. Parents Involved in Education (USPIE), a national coalition of parents that grew out of the anti-Common Core movement, says it believes parents are actually “in the best position to decide how their children should be educated, not just this fall but all the time.”

    “We are in a time of great opportunity,” the USPIE leadership team optimistically explained to Breitbart News:

    This battle is very political. Individuals from the federal government are demanding schools open or lose federal dollars. The teachers’ unions are demanding single-payer healthcare, universal basic income, defunding police and shuttering charter schools before they go back. Our children should not be held hostage for political gain.

    American parents certainly have enough to distract them from creating their children’s fall education plans.

    While they are taking charge, for example, House Democrats, backed by the teachers’ unions, have already demanded $305 billion in coronavirus aid, claiming the funds are necessary to reopen government schools “safely.”

    “States will have to be spending 20 percent more on schools,” said Randi Weingarten, president of the American Federation of Teachers, said, according to CNN. “If they don’t, it means we’ll have more remote education next year.”

    “Anybody who’s not seriously negotiating right now doesn’t really want to reopen schools for children,” she added.

    Union demands, however, reflect a liberal social justice agenda that does not appear directly related to reopening schools.

    For example, the North Carolina teachers’ union is demanding universal health care and welfare for illegal aliens as a prerequisite for reopening schools.

    Leaders of the #RedforEd movement and the Arizona teachers’ union are lobbying against school openings. Breitbart News reported the Arizona Education Association (AEA) is escalating the political battle surrounding the reopening of schools in the state with a list of seven demands.

    In Florida, teachers’ unions are suing Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), seeking to block an order that schools reopen in August.

    In Los Angeles, the city’s teachers’ union is demanding the police department be defunded, with those monies redirected to government schools. The union is also demanding a federal “Medicare for All’ program and a “moratorium” on all charter schools as well.

    “The union’s demands are profoundly unserious,” the Washington Examiner editorial board wrote and added:

    This malingering will hurt rather than help Los Angeles’s students … Young children, especially those with special needs, are facing serious setbacks that will take months, maybe even years, to address. A Reuters analysis last month found that fewer than half of 57 public school districts were even taking attendance. And in Los Angeles, UTLA made it so that schools could not mandate face-to-face online instruction.

    “As this back-to-school bandying continues, more parents are saying ‘enough is enough’ and are opting out of conventional schooling this fall in favor of homeschooling,” wrote Kerry McDonald, senior education fellow at Foundation for Economic Education and author of Unschooled: Raising Curious, Well-Educated Children Outside the Conventional Classroom.

    McDonald explains what families can gain from home education:

    In addition to children being happier and less stressed, and families having more freedom and flexibility over what, how, when, and with whom their children learn, homeschooling can also lead to better overall learning. Curriculum and educational tools can be tailored to a child’s distinct needs and interests, and many free, online learning resources can enhance academic outcomes.

    The USPIE leadership team said its goal is ultimately “to eliminate all federal education mandates and return control to parents and local communities.”

    “However, public schools have had a dismal track record in teaching kids to read, write and do arithmetic,” the team continued:

    The most promising solution is found in the increasing trend to home school, which can be accomplished in many ways. Parents can opt to teach their own children, partner with relatives and friends to create a co-op style or pool their resources to hire a teacher. These strategies enable parents to ensure their children are learning to read, write and do arithmetic and are not being influenced by people who do not share their values, while minimizing cost and optimizing use of time.

    “The current times are a great opportunity to remind our elected officials, bureaucrats and media, that parents are the undisputed primary educator of their children,” USPIE observed.

    McDonald agreed that, as politicians and teachers’ unions continue to battle, many parents are finally experiencing what it is like to take charge of their children’s education.

    “They are reassuming control of their children’s education, finding innovative ways to facilitate learning, and connecting with other parents for support and collaboration,” she added. “Where central plans flounder, individual solutions flourish.”
    It appears that the covid19 Hoax has a silver lining.

    Abolishing Government schools is salutary.

    While it is true that Sweden NEVER CLOSED ITS SCHOOLS WITHOUT ANY BAD HEALTH EFFECTS I agree that government schools should remain closed.

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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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