Afghan refugee wins New Hampshire statehouse primary

[Origanalist]

Does whose fault it is change what should be done about it?

What do you think is going to be done about it?

[phill4paul]

LOL. So you go around randomly accusing people of supporting child sex slavery, which is what you freaking did you lying sack of puss, then when someone neg reps you over it you get mad? Ummm...okay.

That's not how it went down. I didn't straw man and asked your actual position. Feel free to link all quotes.

[jmdrake]

You started it with this among other things:

That was in response to your "Injuns should have been selective about who they let over" comment. There wasn't exactly a passport system back then. How would you suggest the "injuns" do the selecting? (And LOL and someone who thinks the only other thing he can say for Native Americans is "injuns" in order to differentiate from India. Like nobody would know from the context what "Indian" meant?)

[Swordsmyth]

No comprende.

That figures.

If we have been flooded with an excess of invaders on purpose we are much worse off than if the problem had happened naturally and we need to get rid of them even faster than we would have needed to other wise.

[Origanalist]

Then you are in favor of turning a blind eye to most of the invaders with almost non-existent enforcement, the problem was smaller back then so the results weren't as catastrophic as they will be now but lax enforcement back then is one thing that created the situation we now have.

And you're full of $#@! as usual.

[jmdrake]

That's not how it went down. I didn't straw man and asked your actual position. Feel free to link all quotes.

That's EXACTLY how it went down.

Will you allow citizens to end it? I'm for that. Property owners or their hires? States executing none citizens for trespass? Child sex trafficking is NOT helped by closed borders. In any sense. Prove it.
I can only assume that you are fine with it. Free market and all that.
There is no free market in human trade.
But, I dunno, don't wanna assume or strawman.
You tell me. All roads from the north and south, all ports from the east and west, open, no control. Cool with you?

So fvck you. Seriously.

[Origanalist]

That figures.

If we have been flooded with an excess of invaders on purpose we are much worse off than if the problem had happened naturally and we need to get rid of them even faster than we would have needed to other wise.

This is not going to happen. All your dreams will come to naught. So now what?

And of course it was on purpose.

[Champ]

At this point in time, September of 2018, is there an issue that has the libertarians more split than this one?

I can't recall such an "ants going crazy on a stomped on ant hill" situation since maybe Rand in 2012 endorsing Romney.

[Swordsmyth]

That was in response to your "Injuns should have been selective about who they let over" comment. There wasn't exactly a passport system back then. How would you suggest the "injuns" do the selecting?

Being primitive they might have used race as a rule of thumb or they might have accepted a limited number of individuals that assimilated peacefully and driven off any large groups.

(And LOL and someone who thinks the only other thing he can say for Native Americans is "injuns" in order to differentiate from India. Like nobody would know from the context what "Indian" meant?)

You call them what you want and I'll call them what I want, "Injuns" isn't pejorative, it is simply a colloquialism.

[phill4paul]

STILL waiting on an answer from liberty loving @jmdrake.

1) Can property owners on the border shoot trespassers?
2) Can states on the border order their militia to shoot trepassers?

[Swordsmyth]

At this point in time, September of 2018, is there an issue that has the libertarians more split than this one?

I can't recall such an "ants going crazy on a stomped on ant hill" situation since maybe Rand in 2012 endorsing Romney.

Because it is an existential crisis, liberty can't survive a flood of foreign communists, on the other hand the anarchist wing sees border control as a blasphemy against their purist religion.

[Swordsmyth]

This is not going to happen. All your dreams will come to naught. So now what?

It might, if it doesn't then we will have to choose between secession/expulsion, civil war and becoming a communist hellhole.

[jmdrake]

STILL waiting on an answer from liberty loving jmdrake.

1) Can property owners on the border shoot trespassers?
2) Can states on the border order their militia to shoot trepassers?

I already told you I have no problem with property patrols but I am against killing. I don't think it was right for the Texas man who killed a prostitute because she took his money and didn't give him sex and I am against killing someone because they walk across your lawn or field or whatever. But I guess to you that is "liberal." If you want to shot at someone with rock salt or bean bags I don't care. Your buddy @Swordsmyth is against the wall. Do you support it? Just curious.

[Swordsmyth]

And you're full of $#@! as usual.

Talking to yourself again old man?

[Origanalist]

Because it is an existential crisis, liberty can't survive a flood of foreign communists, on the other hand the anarchist wing sees border control as a blasphemy against their purist religion.

Liberty isn't surviving period. It has bigger and more direct threats than the border.

[Origanalist]

Talking to yourself again old man?

I am talking to you junior.

[Swordsmyth]

What do you think is going to be done about it?

Patrol the borders and deport the invaders and reduce immigration after a freeze.

[jmdrake]

Being primitive they might have used race as a rule of thumb or they might have accepted a limited number of individuals that assimilated peacefully and driven off any large groups.

Obviously. And hence my sign based on YOUR implication.

You call them what you want and I'll call them what I want, "Injuns" isn't pejorative, it is simply a colloquialism.

And I can use a giphy to illustrate what you were really saying. But you decided to get butthurt over it. That's your problem.

[Swordsmyth]

I am talking to you junior.

Then you are projecting.

[Origanalist]

Patrol the borders and deport the invaders and reduce immigration after a freeze.

Lol, good luck.

[Swordsmyth]

Obviously. And hence my sign based on YOUR implication.

Yes, you the congenital racist didn't give them the possibility that I did of conducting themselves in a non-racist manner even though many of them did exactly what Isaid they might do instead of just being racist.

And I can use a giphy to illustrate what you were really saying. But you decided to get butthurt over it. That's your problem.

You continued to bring race into the issue when I ignored that picture.

[Origanalist]

Then you are projecting.

Whatever you say sparky.

[Swordsmyth]

Liberty isn't surviving period.

Even if you are right in your defeatism we can still stretch out its lifespan.

It has bigger and more direct threats than the border.

Wrong.

[Anti Federalist]

Of course not. She came over as a legal refugee. We screwed up her country over a course of decades. Republicans took the credit for "liberating" Afghanistan first from communism and then from the Taliban. Blowback?

Afghanistan before and after American's fighting communism there.

Maybe if more people knew that it was actually democratic president Jimmy Carter that started arming jihadists in Afghanistan? But sadly Ronald Reagan took the credit and there ya go.

Won't get an argument from me on that...but how does that change the fundamental fact that she is running for office on a platform of radically changing the relationship with state government, in my backyard?

I'm very sorry the government, that I am trying my damnedest to reduce and eliminate, blew up your homeland.

I really am.

I will be more than willing to fund relief efforts to help you rebuild your country in whatever fashion you wish.

Now, please, go.

[Origanalist]

Even if you are right in your defeatism we can still stretch out its lifespan.


Wrong.

No, Im right. And you're a fool.

[jmdrake]

Yes, you the congenital racist didn't give them the possibility that I did of conducting themselves in a non-racist manner even though many of them did exactly what Isaid they might do instead of just being racist.

You, the obvious racist, contradicted yourself by first calling them "primitive" and then as an afterthought coming up with a non primitive solution. So how exactly is this "primitive" culture going to keep up with the assimilation statistics and decide when to make the cutoff?

You continued to bring race into the issue when I ignored that picture.

You initially brought race into the picture and first played the race card Mr. Racist. Must make you feel good. Are you on Jesse Jackson's payroll?

[jmdrake]

Won't get an argument from me on that...but how does that change the fundamental fact that she is running for office on a platform of radically changing the relationship with state government, in my backyard?

I'm curious. Do you think it's possible for a Muslim immigrant to win a republican primary regardless of his/her platform? If the answer to that question is no than how is this not a self fulfilling prophecy?

I'm very sorry the government, that I am trying my damnedest to reduce and eliminate, blew up your homeland.

I really am.

I will be more than willing to fund relief efforts to help you rebuild your country in whatever fashion you wish.

Now, please, go.

I guess the "injuns" are saying the same thing. (Except they didn't have anything to do with screwing up Europe).

[phill4paul]

That's EXACTLY how it went down.



So fvck you. Seriously.

I did say "assume." I accused you of nothing. Christ, you are such a prog. Even gave me a neg rep. even though that, at this point is meaningless. Go find a safe space.

[Swordsmyth]

A) I didn't say that was the only enforcement I wanted Mr. Liar.

You responded that you would support the policy in question in response to me query about internal enforcement vs. border enforcement and you said nothing about supporting border enforcement, if you support border enforcement in spite of everything you have said to the contrary in this thread please explain.

B) You said you were against a border wall and an "internal police state" (what you called what Originalist was saying) without giving him a chance to explain how he would enforce it.
C) So far YOU haven't actually said what you would do on the border except "close" it.

I have said I wanted the border patrolled and immigration limited.

I could be dumber than dirt but still smarter than you.

Perhaps but you are still dumber than me so just how dumb are you then?

[jmdrake]

You responded that you would support the policy in question in response to me query about internal enforcement vs. border enforcement and you said nothing about supporting border enforcement, if you support border enforcement in spite of everything you have said to the contrary in this thread please explain.

So you think the only kind of immigration enforcement is border enforcement? I really am dealing with a lack of intelligence here. Okay. Here's another non-border and non-police state enforcement that I support. Check citizenship before doling out any welfare benefits state or federal. I'm sure you could think of some more if you tried hard enough.