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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
+1
The “crisis” Trump should have talked about on national TV was how the 2nd was under attack, private property should be protected, how much of a drain on society multi-generational Welfare is, and most important, the detriments of Common Core and the need to end it.
He wants something biggly he can put his name on. It will be the mostest beautiful thing anybody has ever seen. Support it and you will never see another crime committed in the US. Ever. If you aren't with us, you are for the terrorists/ criminals. (that last line got us into Afghanistan and Iraq).
In 2008-2009 there was a mass exodus of illegal immigrants leaving the US. The economic crisis had not hit Canada as hard as it did the US. Mexico was still an economic sh!thole, and Canada did not pick up any of the illegals leaving the US.
Sorry I was not clearer on that point... Not that it probably matters, we're just not going to agree on this issue.
Gulag Chief: "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"
Federalize that land and the right to carry goes out the window. When one Right goes down the crapper, in this case Property Rights, the rest follow. This is what you don’t understand.
And yes, you are in fact, a trump humper.
Edited, this was to SwordSmyth.
Last edited by PAF; 01-10-2019 at 09:40 PM.
If there was a mass exodus how come we have 20M+ now instead of the 10M+ they told us we had back then?
Yale study finds illegal migrant numbers twice the accepted norm of 11 million
Why would we want to rely on becoming poor to get rid of them anyway?
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
LOL
You may not like it and I may think that there are better ways to deal with it but eminent domain IS Constitutional.
Besides that you are jumping the shark, the government has taken much more land with much less justification before and somehow I still have my guns.
If you allow the invasion to continue all of our rights will be destroyed completely.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
All this Trump-hump talk.... and not one pic....
Fixed your thread, ya jackwagons!
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
...
Defending against an INVASION is the best possible justification for eminent domain.Originally Posted by Swordsmyth
LOL
You may not like it and I may think that there are better ways to deal with it but eminent domain IS Constitutional.
Besides that you are jumping the shark, the government has taken much more land with much less justification before and somehow I still have my guns.
If you allow the invasion to continue all of our rights will be destroyed completely.
I prefer a different solution but you are really reaching here.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
You're making a good point here, but its a different issue.
Chicago is packed with not only illegals, but domestics who are enjoying the illicit drug revenue. These gangs are willing to do whatever it takes to keep that money flowing, and that includes a whole lot of violence. Unfortunately though, as you point out, the incentives will remain after the wall is built, and so will the gangs. The good news here is that legalization is gaining steam, and there's not a fking thing the federal government can do about it - not at this point. Pieces of sh!t who made it their life's mission to prop up this prohibition are now lining up to profit from legalization.
The terrorist fear is yet another topic, and that involves foreign policy. The wall is not going to save us here either, unfortunately. Killing women and children, propping up dictators, overthrowing elected governments, and selectively supporting revolutionaries (sometimes switching sides 2 or 3 times) to destabilize entire regions is going to create a lot of incentive for terrorism. You kill my children, or even my neighbor's children, and I'm coming after your a$$ - I'd expect the same from anyone else. With all the "foreigners" coming here legally, and on H1B's, there will be no need to scale a wall. Our own government is packed with these immigrants who do contract work - government loves contractors and service providers and almost all of them are foreign. (to disclaim - everyone I've worked with has been awesome - I dont fear them in the least, but I see how easy it is for hostiles to make their way over here, legally)
Gulag Chief: "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
We have some 650 miles of border wall already built along the 2,000 mile southern border (though you would not know it by listening to Trump who makes it sound like there is none and nobody watching the borders at all). Why not more? Most is inaccessible. Across rivers- over mountains, in the middle of deserts.
Last edited by Zippyjuan; 01-10-2019 at 10:06 PM.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Is that what you got from my argument? Really? I suspect that you are being intellectually dishonest with me - perhaps even with yourself.
Ok, so I'll play along... That's exactly what you're doing with your wall. Have you been paying attention to the deficit? To our national debt? How about the fed balance sheet? Inflation?
If we dont take away the incentives that our government is handing out to these illegals, our reckless spending will. Better warm up to the idea of being poor. Your boy trump, and his wall, will only accelerate this fact. No tariff is going to save you either. Personal welfare, illegal immigrant welfare, corporate welfare, foreign welfare, nation building - its going to make a you a poor motherfker - trust me. Then, where will your trump be - fking asia baby... He and all his rich friends will be up and out of this b!tch.
This wall is a waste of time, and a typical political distraction. Dont be manipulated - you have a lot of useful energy, dont waste it on this.
Gulag Chief: "Article 58-1a, twenty five years... What did you get it for?"
Gulag Prisoner: "For nothing at all."
Gulag Chief: "You're lying... The sentence for nothing at all is 10 years"
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