Originally Posted by
jllundqu
We are in serious trouble as a country.
I just spent the last two hours engaging Trump supporters in various forums, comment sections, and online venues.
You poor soul, why would you ever willingly do that to yourself? You are a bigger man than I.
If you thought the Trump supporters were bad here on RPF, you are sorely mistaken.
I've found that the RPF Trump supporters are quite respectful and well meaning. They are lost in this terrible election, just as we all are, and they are turning to who is promising "Hope and Change". Either that or they are hoping that "Making America Great Again" will be the deathsong of the GOP. But I do not think they are delusional like the majority of the Trump supporters out there.
They are ignorant. They don't care about constitutional principles. And they are MEAN. I mean viciously horribly dark and mean.
That is more than just Trump fans. That is the state of American Civility. We are a horribly dark and mean people. Sad but true. Moral decay does that to a nation....well, especially to a divided nation.
I no longer have a horse in this race and I'm not advocating for anyone and I made that clear to everyone I engaged with.
I do as well, I try to give them the revolutionary idea that it is "okay" not to be 100% for one of two options.
I was attacked with low information insults from the start. They went after my wife, my kids, my military service, you name it... This is literally an uprising of the ignorant angry masses. They wouldn't hesitate to round up anyone who disagrees with them and imprison them or even kill them. Heck Trump himself has advocated internment camps...
Low information insults are what they have learned from The Donald himself. Populism takes precedence over Principle. Not having a wife or kids, I obviously have not been attacked in this way; but I was surprised to find that my military service has also been targeted. Something about being called "Obama's Dog" just doesn't sit right with me...I never thought I would hear that from the GOP, which frightens me greatly.
This is absolutely an uprising of the ignorant angry masses, and such takeovers can often lead to violence. This is *exactly* why the founding fathers advocated so strongly against democracy. The downfall of Ancient Greece is happening here. We have been in transition from Republic to Democracy for awhile...an election fueled in populism could quickly turn to Tyranny of the Majority.
Trump or Hillary.... this does not end well.
A part of me is hoping that the Establishment comes in and saves the day with mediocre status quo. One of my friends, who is very, very "conservative" told me the other day "I think I would rather stomach an Obama 3rd Term than let one of these guys win. I'm scared to death of the unknown".
Edit: I was also very polite and courteous. I was simply debating Trumps policy positions and advocating liberty principles.
There is no room for debate in a cult of personality.
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