Kavanaugh 2.0 - Jim Jordan Faces Accusations From Almost 40 Years Ago

[Anti Globalist]

Unfortunately for the MSM, most people are going to think this is complete and utter bs.

[TheCount]

Whatever that even means.

Report yourself.

Whether the police ever said he was wanted or decided not to take on a powerful political operative isn't relevant.

Police? They didn't make the sketches.

It's far better evidence of kidnapping than anything brought against Jordan.

Oh, it's solid evidence of kidnapping.


It's just as good evidence that you kidnapped her as Podesta, though. Where were you in May of 2007? Portugal?

Witnesses may have seen them there.

Solid. 10/10. A+ would arrest.

And there is lots of evidence that they may be involved in child theft and abuse.

Nope.

(Jordan isn't even accused of harming anyone or actively participating in any way)

Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?

[Swordsmyth]

Report yourself.

Police? They didn't make the sketches.

That doesn't mean they weren't aware of them.

Oh, it's solid evidence of kidnapping.


It's just as good evidence that you kidnapped her as Podesta, though. Where were you in May of 2007? Portugal?

I don't look like that and I don't have lots of evidence against me that I am a pedo.

Solid. 10/10. A+ would arrest.

Did anyone say it was enough for an arrest all by itself?

Nope.

Yup.

Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?

If he isn't even accused of being a pedophile then he can't be called one.
And the accusations against him are dubious in the extreme and obviously politically motivated.

You are getting truly pathetic.

[dannno]

It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.

Wow thanks Snopes, you are so helpful!!!

It's really amazing the $#@! you believe.. First of all, a "witness" to a child abduction like that could be involved as a lookout to make sure everything runs smoothly. That's probably why the police released this:



It was likely that the man who physically kidnapped her was their friend, Clement Freud (actually a decedent of Sigmund). He is the one who owns a place less than a third of a mile from where she was kidnapped.

The only email I saw was this one, and it is legit:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/23724

The FBI leaked the info about their whereabouts on 4chan.

Anyway, I don't need to convince you, just looking at that photo of those two next to the police sketch is enough to skeeze most people out, especially after they have seen Tony's artwork.

I mean, if you took a photo of those two at the age they were when the kidnapping took place and turned it into a police sketch using photoshop, you couldn't get any closer than that. Those police sketches are amazing. And they sure as $#@! aren't the same person.. Although they do happen to be brothers. The error happened due to either a paperwork error or because recollections from various witnesses to an event are always a bit hazy.

[dannno]

But no victims.

And no witnesses.

And no basements.

Wow, thanks Snopes!!

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[TheCount]

Wow, thanks Snopes!!



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Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

[jmdrake]

Impeccable timing isn't it?

Did Jim Jordan molest boys on a high school wrestling team for which he was the assistant coach??

$#@! no.

But he was an assistant coach on a high school wrestling team, and some of the guys who were on the team are now coming forward and saying that they were molested by their school nurse.

They claim Jim Jordan had to have known about it, because they joked about it in the locker room on almost a daily basis. They do not claim that he actively covered it up, but the media is claiming that is what he did.

Whether Jim Jordan even heard them or not, or knew whether they were joking or what, who knows. None of them came to him directly to report the improprieties. Keep in mind this $#@! happened almost 40 years ago.

Not linking to any bull$#@! MSM articles.

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ned-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ned-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.

The total lack of credibility of the accusers and their political motivation is the only answer that needs.

If you find actual credible evidence against anyone please do let us know and then we will care.

[dannno]

Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

It's too bad you only drop in once in a while and miss all of the important threads.

Before that false flag patsy went into the pizza shop, we had been discussing about how a hacker had found child pornography on a password protected portion of Comet Pizza's website. They sent the information to the FBI to investigate.

As we were waiting for the FBI to do something (hah!), suddenly they sent out the patsy to create a staged false flag. There were two purposes.

If you look closely at the picture below, the computer at the pizza shop which contained the web server for their website was shot by the one shot that the gunman got off, and the hard drive was destroyed:



Another one of those "coincidences" I guess you would call it..

So the first purpose was to destroy the evidence of the child porn on Comet Pizza's website. The second purpose was to trick foolish people like you into believing that people investigating pizzagate are dangerous, as opposed to actual child sex traffickers.

This all seems pretty straightforward to me. But hey, keep going. What do you want to bring up next?

[dannno]

I'm curious. What are you thoughts about the fact that Bret Kavanaugh was part of the Skull and Bones and the MSM at best glossed over and at worst whitewashed this fact?

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ned-was-mostly

The second Kavanaugh accuser described something that sounded like a ritual the Skull and Bones would do. Per her story, it was a drinking game where the bottle kept landing on her for some odd reason, and then someone put a dildo in her face, then later someone put a penis in her face. She saw Bret zipping up his pants and laughing. Considering how the S & B operates that could have been done to get blackmail on all involved including Kavanaugh, and yet done in such a way that it was impossible to directly incriminate anyone.

Kavanaugh was not a Skull and Bones member, he was a Truth and Courage member. Allegedly it was a bunch of partying frat guys, not so much a secret society.

[jmdrake]

The total lack of credibility of the accusers and their political motivation is the only answer that needs.

If you find actual credible evidence against anyone please do let us know and then we will care.

I didn't ask you. I asked Dannno. I've never known you to be a conspiracy theorist.

Kavanaugh was not a Skull and Bones member, he was a Truth and Courage member. Allegedly it was a bunch of partying frat guys, not so much a secret society.

Okay.

[jon4liberty]

Take your AR-15 with you when you go to get pictures of it.

FED.....
I encourage my fellow RPFers out of love not to respond or acknowledge this fed. Entrapment of sorts is waiting around the corner with this guy

[TheCount]

It's too bad you only drop in once in a while and miss all of the important threads.

"Important" is relative. Things which are complete bull$#@! are rarely important to me.

Before that false flag patsy went into the pizza shop, we had been discussing about how a hacker had found child pornography on a password protected portion of Comet Pizza's website. They sent the information to the FBI to investigate.

Oh good, now we're two layers deep in imaginary things for which you do not have and have never seen any evidence. Not only have you not responded at all to the fact that your first set of beliefs are entirely unjustified, you're adding a whole new layer of nothing on top as though it hides the nothing beneath.

Also, sounds legit.

As we were waiting for the FBI to do something (hah!), suddenly they sent out the patsy to create a staged false flag. There were two purposes.

One of many problems with your delusion is that this doesn't make the version of the information that the "hacker" "found" on the "website" disappear.

[TheCount]

FED.....
I encourage my fellow RPFers out of love not to respond or acknowledge this fed. Entrapment of sorts is waiting around the corner with this guy

It must be a sad state of life to simply not understand the concept of a joke.

[dannno]

One of many problems with your delusion is that this doesn't make the version of the information that the "hacker" "found" on the "website" disappear.

Uh, ya, but it makes it hard to prove definitively that it was actually on their website. Especially months or years down the road.

All I'm asking is to put yourself in our shoes, and you can't even do that.

We were all following a story about a suspected child trafficker who had a website with a password protected portion containing child porn.

In order to quash the story about the suspected child trafficker, they send a patsy to the pizza restaurant to make anybody investigating said child trafficker appear to be the "dangerous" ones in the eyes of the public. It really was genius, and it worked perfectly.

On top of that, the patsy goes in and shoots a hard drive that contained evidence that we all had been waiting for weeks for the FBI to analyze. There was one $#@!ing bullet hole in the entire place. The chances of it hitting the hard drive that we were all waiting to be analyzed by the FBI has got to be at least a million to one. So you believe in a million to one coincidence.

If you don't think that our position that this was really sketchy is reasonable in this case, then you aren't a reasonable person. End of story.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't ask you. I asked Dannno. I've never known you to be a conspiracy theorist.

Then you don't know me well.

But I still need more than politically motivated claims by obvious liars before I believe this kind of thing.

[TheCount]

All I'm asking is to put yourself in our shoes, and you can't even do that.

In whose shoes?

We were all following a story about a suspected child trafficker who had a website with a password protected portion containing child porn.

Neither of the two most important parts of that sentence are true.

[dannno]

In whose shoes?

The people here who were paying attention when we had the suspected child trafficker's website hacked and were waiting to hear back from the FBI.. when all of a sudden in a million to one chance, the hard drive gets shot by a false flag patsy.

Neither of the two most important parts of that sentence are true.

The only person who could definitively make that statement is Alefantis.

Are you Alefantis? You know what that means in French, right? You might want to have your name changed if that is the case.

[TheCount]

The people here who were paying attention when we had the suspected child trafficker's website hacked and were waiting to hear back from the FBI.. when all of a sudden in a million to one chance, the hard drive gets shot by a false flag patsy.

I put myself in the shoes of those people every time I open up the Q thread.

They are clown shoes.

The only person who could definitively make that statement is Alefantis.

Or a person who isn't willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos.

[Stratovarious]

Seems that you can't remember the rules that you claim to care so much about. Nobody should be surprised by that, though. You are completely unprincipled.



Also, you seem to have used the singular and not the plural.

And the pictured person is not now and was never a wanted suspect. Correct?




Oh yeah, definitely. Or it could have been both. Maybe one of them put her down and then the other one picked her back up.


Of course, they'd have had to have been in Portugal. Were they?

Nice of you to stop by for some insults and personal attacks against Sword, also nice that you get a free
pass, and someone like Timosman gets banned for who the hell knows what.......

But why should we allow free speech on a Ron Paul Freedom Tree forum anyway, its so out dated.

[dannno]

Or a person who isn't willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos.

That is not a logical statement. A person who is not willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos like yourself still cannot definitively make that statement. Only Alefantis can.

[TheCount]

That is not a logical statement. A person who is not willing to accept "evidence" told to them fourth-hand via chaturbate videos like yourself still cannot definitively make that statement. Only Alefantis can.

No one can prove a negative. This is rather important to the clown shoe worldview, really, as their beliefs can never be disproven.


You say that there is proof that there was child porn on Comet Ping Pong's website. Go on, then, prove it.

[RJB]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.

[Swordsmyth]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.

Exactly.

We are to call Jordan a pedophile because dubious politically motivated accusations are made that he didn't have anything to do with any abuse but may have heard something about it.


But all the evidence against others for actual crimes is to be ignored.

[TheCount]

Lol. The thread was about the ridiculous charges against "Gym" Jordan (quoting theCount). The way theCount has thoroughly changed the subject comes across as theCount's admission that this another nothing burger.

Correct, they are both nothing burgers.


One of the two nothing burgers is a matter of religious belief.

[RJB]

Correct, they are both nothing burgers.


One of the two nothing burgers is a matter of religious belief.

So then why did you pretend that "Gym" Jordan was a pedo? Just for fun?

[TheCount]

So then why did you pretend that "Gym" Jordan was a pedo? Just for fun?

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:

Yeah, right? Ridiculous.


Not as ridiculous as thinking that owning creepy artwork is the same as being a pedo, but still pretty ridiculous.

[RJB]

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:

Sure Gym.

[TheCount]

Sure Gym.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't. I even said that the accusations against him were ridiculous.


All I did was point out - with the generous assistance of a couple of other posters - that certain ridiculous and unfounded accusations are taken as a matter of faith while others are discarded.


Here's my post:

All of a sudden you want us to believe you weren't using sarcasm?

Try explaining these:

Originally Posted by TheCount
It's a good thing for Gym Jordan that there's a statute of limitations on certain people's supposed concern about the pedophile elites running Washington.

(that was your 1st post)
Why would it be a good thing unless you mean that he is guilty?

Originally Posted by TheCount
It only takes 3 seconds on that wiki page to read that both of those police sketches are of the same man, not separate men. Two more seconds will tell you that it's a sketch of a witness, not a wanted subject.


The email that you mentioned? Doesn't exist.


So, yeah, thanks for illustrating how the Gym Jordan evidence is less tenuous and circumstantial as your beloved Pizzagate evidence.

Not only are you wrong as I showed in my reply but you are claiming that the "evidence" against Jordan has some substance to it which it has not.

Sounds legit.



Tell me: Which of the two has actual victims who have come forward?

Implying that Jordan has "victims" when even the liars who have come forward don't claim he victimized them.

Originally Posted by TheCount

Is that your standard for which pedophiles should be allowed to be in government and which pedophiles should not be allowed to be in government?

Directly calling Jordan a pedo.