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Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
You're right. Convinced is too strong of an opinion. I'm basically willing to give him some time to bring the troops home after the amazing rhetoric he is dishing out. He's also been promoting Rand as a side benefit and that's pretty awesome. I hope I am wrong on my gut feeling as well.
There is something whacky going on from the normal $#@!show, and I can't put my finger on it.
Either way, he needs to get the credit/shame he deserves. Balls in his court. His rhetoric shows he understands the damage these endless wars can cause.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
And more in harms way in Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
Hope over reason. Trump doesn't have a foundation when it comes to foreign policy so there isn't much reason to believe he will do the right thing and bring the troops home.
Granted at least Rand Paul looks like he may kinda, sorta, in a very small way, have some influence with Trump and that's a good thing.
"The Patriarch"
I think it is good that there are protest. I haven't ever been to a protest march or rally. I think Trump rallies are like a a protest rally. I think that most of the people who have seen benefits from his policies are the people who have been ran rough shod over for the past 4 administrations of both parties.
I believe I see people are not so much worried about parties. A lot of people are concerned about the out and out evil that is pushed on the public. One day I went over to a friends house and their tv was on. I couldn't believe the show that was on with demons and witches and vampires being presented them like they are just common place and normal. Within minutes the big pharma commercial came on I was out the door. I stand with anyone who stands against this crap going on. I might not go to protest marches and rallies but I will talk to people and write about it where ever I can.
I am with what Trump is doing if you want to call it republican go ahead. I am glad to see Rand at his rally. Someone hurt Rand not long ago and personally I think that guy that attacked him was mk ultraed or paid to attack him. We are in one hell of a battle and we best not take it laying down. I believe Trump will win the election and beat down his opposition enough that we could get a libertarian in 2024. Maybe Rand. He and Ron have taken some hard knocks for us. I believe Rand has been a very important adviser to Trump and is giving our voice directly to Trump which is very good.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
Would a similar tactic catch on better with another "request"? I hate to suggest it, because I remember peace and prosperity too. fondly. But instead of peace, perhaps we could throw our weight on this:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...55#post6881455
It would give radical Democrats skin in the game. And a lot of people here are expert in the subject. It would be nice to see We, the People use the Dreaded Bipartisan Action in Washington for a change.
It could indirectly lead to peace if the Long War Kickoff was investigated by more people.
SSomeone will be along shortly to tell us why we should never hold Trump's feet to the fire on anything.
I don't believe we will see what we want to see until the phony impeachment is out of the way.
Not only are the Neocons using the possibility of voting against Trump to pressure him but it is being used to distract him so the military can defy him and do things against his intent.
Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
Robert Heinlein
Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler
Groucho Marx
I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.
Linus, from the Peanuts comic
You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith
Alexis de Torqueville
Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it
A Zero Hedge comment
His top donor (Neocon) should be able pull some strings to tell other Neocons to speed things up so we can soon see 'what we want to see'.
Impeachment Reality TV show just went Live, so maybe things will move fast now (except for the secret troops surges for continued mideast/globalist interventions to serve agenda of neocon donors or of our closest democratic allies in mideast).
Forget The Impeachment Circus…Here’s What Congress Should Really Investigate! – Ron Paul Institute
While the country is being dragged through the three ring impeachment circus – which is all about politics and nothing about policy, President Trump’s secret wars and interventions across the globe continue. Venezuela, Middle East, Lithuania…the intervention is on overdrive. But Congress has no interest in its Constitutional obligations when it comes to war. Political theater is far more exciting.
youtube.com/watch?v=eH48AP5eRK0
From Iraq to the Red Sea, Iran-Israel Battleground Now Spans Entire Mideast
Oct 20, 2019
October 6, 2019
US, Israeli efforts put Iraq’s stability on the line ; 104 killed in Iraq unrest, 6000 wounded
Iraqi militia leader meets US defence secretary following spate of Israeli attacks
US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper met with Iraqi politican Falih Alfayyadh [Getty]
Date of publication: 2 October, 2019
Iraq invasion architect Elliott Abrams quietly slips into Trump administration
Trump has deployed 14,000 additional troops to the Middle East since May 2019
Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel
True neoconservatives:
- Elliot Abrams (Rubio, Cruz adviser) (MAGA ambammasdor)
- Sheldon Adelson (Billionaire donor, Rubio backer) (Top MAGA donor)
- John Bolton (Cruz adviser) ( MAGA NSA)
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