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    Exclamation Starbucks in hot water for having cops remove two black men from Philly store

    I do love when the Bolsheviks eat their own.

    Starbucks has spent years cultivating their SJW street cred, only to have it all blown away in a matter of five minutes because someone called cops.

    Do not call cops.

    Nothing ever good comes from it.



    Starbucks C.E.O. Apologizes After Arrests of 2 Black Men

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/15/u...en-arrest.html

    By MATT STEVENSAPRIL 15, 2018

    Two black men walked into a Starbucks in downtown Philadelphia on Thursday afternoon and sat down. Officials said they had asked to use the restroom but because they had not bought anything, an employee refused the request. They were eventually asked to leave, and when they declined, an employee called the police.

    Some of what happened next was recorded in a video that has been viewed more than eight million times on Twitter and was described by the chief executive of Starbucks as “very hard to watch.” Details of the episode, which the authorities provided on Saturday, ignited widespread criticism on social media, incited anger among public officials and prompted investigations.

    The video shows the men surrounded by several police officers wearing bicycle helmets in the Center City Starbucks. When one officer asks another man whether he is “with these gentlemen,” the man says he is and calls the episode ridiculous.

    “What did they get called for?” asks the man, Andrew Yaffe, who is white, referring to the police. “Because there are two black guys sitting here meeting me?”

    Moments later, officers escort one of the black men out of the Starbucks in handcuffs. The other soon follows.

    The men, who have not been identified, were arrested on suspicion of trespassing. But Starbucks did not want to press charges and the men were later released, Commissioner Richard Ross Jr. of the Philadelphia Police Department said in a recorded statement on Saturday.

    The prosecutor’s office in Philadelphia also reviewed the case and declined to charge the men because of “a lack of evidence that a crime was committed,” Benjamin Waxman, a spokesman for the office, said.

    The company apologized on Twitter Saturday afternoon. Later that day, while the hashtag #BoycottStarbucks was trending on Twitter, Kevin R. Johnson, the chief executive of Starbucks, released a statement in which he called the situation a “reprehensible outcome.”

    Mr. Johnson said he hoped to meet them in person to offer a “face-to-face apology.”

    He also pledged to investigate, and to “make any necessary changes to our practices that would help prevent such an occurrence from ever happening again.”
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    They were told they were trespassing and asked to leave, they refused. The manage told them they were gonna call the cops and they said "I don't care."

    $#@! em. They could have just bought some overpriced coffee and made everybody's day easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    They were told they were trespassing and asked to leave, they refused. The manage told them they were gonna call the cops and they said "I don't care."

    $#@! em. They could have just bought some overpriced coffee and made everybody's day easier.
    It could have gone down a hundred different ways, that is one way, all better than dragging cops into it.

    I find the justice deliciously poetic after Starbucks has made it a point for years now to try and ingratiate itself and position itself as the exclusive coffee suppliers of the perpetually aggrieved, Bolshevik, SJW left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I find the justice deliciously poetic after Starbucks has made it a point for years now to try and ingratiate itself and position itself as the exclusive coffee suppliers of the perpetually aggrieved, Bolshevik, SJW left.
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    Hmmm. Something fishy about this. Seems very unreasonable by the Starbucks employee. Was this a set-up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Hmmm. Something fishy about this. Seems very unreasonable by the Starbucks employee. Was this a set-up?
    It's Philly. They are all belligerent jerks, remember?

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    It's Philly. They are all belligerent jerks, remember?
    Never been there. But I've heard that is the stereotype.

    Seems like everyone is sitting around working on their laptops at most Starbucks. Much longer than it would take to drink a cup of coffee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Hmmm. Something fishy about this. Seems very unreasonable by the Starbucks employee. Was this a set-up?
    I would wager that the manager of a starbucks in center city Philly, has had to run off quite a few non-customers occupying space and non-customers trying to use the restrooms. I'd have run them off too, either buy something or get out is a pretty ordinary request from a business.



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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I would wager that the manager of a starbucks in center city Philly, has had to run off quite a few non-customers occupying space and non-customers trying to use the restrooms. I'd have run them off too, either buy something or get out is a pretty ordinary request from a business.
    Yeah. I do not think the cops did anything wrong even if the manager was a jerk. I don't know PA but in most places, restaurants have the right to ask you to leave for any reason they choose. The cops have the responsibility to enforce the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I would wager that the manager of a starbucks in center city Philly, has had to run off quite a few non-customers occupying space and non-customers trying to use the restrooms. I'd have run them off too, either buy something or get out is a pretty ordinary request from a business.
    They might base that on the appearance of the people.

    The given reason for them being there was a business meeting. Were they dressed for a "business investment opportunities" meeting? Doesn't seem like it.

    (JTA) — The two black men arrested at a Starbucks in Philadelphia were waiting for a local Jewish businessman, Andrew Yaffe.
    ...
    Yaffe, who runs a real estate development firm, was meeting the men to discuss business investment opportunities. In the video, he arrives at the Starbucks and tells police that they were waiting for him.

    “Why would they be asked to leave?” Yaffe says on the video. “Does anybody else think this is ridiculous? It’s absolute discrimination.”
    ...
    Read more: https://forward.com/fast-forward/398...-local-jewish/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    They might base that on the appearance of the people.

    The given reason for them being there was a business meeting. Were they dressed for a "business investment opportunities" meeting? Doesn't seem like it.
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    Simple solution. Have less tables and less seating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specsaregood View Post
    I would wager that the manager of a starbucks in center city Philly, has had to run off quite a few non-customers occupying space and non-customers trying to use the restrooms. I'd have run them off too, either buy something or get out is a pretty ordinary request from a business.
    Twenty bucks says the manager is a POC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Twenty bucks says the manager is a POC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raginfridus View Post
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    I had this happen to me once. I stopped at a gas station and the rule was you had to buy something to use the restroom. Okay, whatever, gotta piss and get back on the road. I bought a newspaper so I could pee with dignity. The restrooms could have been a bit cleaner though.

    Of course, I wasn't black so I couldn't cry foul. I just had to follow the rules, do my business, and leave.

    I know, cool story right? I'm waiting on a movie deal.

    Starbucks is anti-gun though. I wouldn't so much as take a piss in one.
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    The CEO said the personnel didn't have enough training and he is going to address the issue by providing employees with more training. This is going to be fun for everybody.

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    $#@! Starbucks!

    $#@! the two black men.

    And $#@! the cops!

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    Reason #14,249 not to own a business in the US, and why we can't compete with China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    I had this happen to me once. I stopped at a gas station and the rule was you had to buy something to use the restroom. Okay, whatever, gotta piss and get back on the road. I bought a newspaper so I could pee with dignity. The restrooms could have been a bit cleaner though.

    Of course, I wasn't black so I couldn't cry foul. I just had to follow the rules, do my business, and leave.

    I know, cool story right? I'm waiting on a movie deal.

    Starbucks is anti-gun though. I wouldn't so much as take a piss in one.
    Your white privilege allowed you to make enough money to buy a newspaper. Quitcherbitchin'.

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    It sounds like there were white patrons doing the same thing but they didn't have the cops called on them. Bad behavior on behalf of this store, so now the company gets the grief. Good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    It sounds like there were white patrons doing the same thing but they didn't have the cops called on them. Bad behavior on behalf of this store, so now the company gets the grief. Good.
    That what it sounds like, although we'll probably never get the manager's side of the story. On the other hand, a business has the right to ask anyone to leave, for whatever reason and they refused. Also I noticed that they already hired a lawyer.

    As far as the people complaining about the cops, what were the police supposed to do? "We're sorry, the 2 men don't want to leave. You are obligated to let them stay on your property."

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelatc View Post
    The cops have the responsibility to enforce the law.
    Human Beings have responsibility for enforcing law..

    Cops are Authoritarian Bully Boys,, with little concept of LAW OR JUSTICE..
    IT IS HARD TO TELL WHO WAS MORE PHUCKED UP,, the management or the Pigs who responded.
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    which one of yall $#@!ers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters

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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    It sounds like there were white patrons doing the same thing but they didn't have the cops called on them. Bad behavior on behalf of this store, so now the company gets the grief. Good.
    Pretty much badly handled by the employees.

    A moments polite conversation could have avoided the whole ordeal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBounding View Post
    It sounds like there were white patrons doing the same thing but they didn't have the cops called on them. Bad behavior on behalf of this store, so now the company gets the grief. Good.
    Ok, so what if a couple white dudes come in dressed as gang bangers, are really noisy and annoying the other customers and don't buy anything? Meanwhile some middle aged black guy is sitting on his computer quietly in the corner without buying anything and they kick the white dudes out. Is that racist too?

    I don't know how this one went down, but social media and the mainstream media don't always tell the whole story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Reason #14,249 not to own a business in the US, and why we can't compete with China.
    +rep You might even start to think this is done on purpose by the members of the fifth column.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Ok, so what if a couple white dudes come in dressed as gang bangers, are really noisy and annoying the other customers and don't buy anything? Meanwhile some middle aged black guy is sitting on his computer quietly in the corner without buying anything and they kick the white dudes out. Is that racist too?

    I don't know how this one went down, but social media and the mainstream media don't always tell the whole story.
    Exactly. Like I said, we'll probably never get to hear the manager's side of the story.

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Human Beings have responsibility for enforcing law..

    Cops are Authoritarian Bully Boys,, with little concept of LAW OR JUSTICE..
    IT IS HARD TO TELL WHO WAS MORE PHUCKED UP,, the management or the Pigs who responded.
    What should the cops have done differently?

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