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Old 12-22-2009, 05:42 AM   #1
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Default Obama gave INTERPOL immunity from the Constitution on Dec 16! IMPORTANT

(Hat tip to an ATS poster that found this EO item originally. This analysis is mine however. Yeah it's long but this is VERY Important!!! Please read, understand and SPREAD!)

Signed by Obama just 6 days ago.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...ve-order-12425

Quote:
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them.

Here is the original EO12425, signed by Reagan in 1983:
http://www.answers.com/topic/executive-order-12425

Quote:
By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act; except those provided by Section 2(c), the portions of Section 2(d) and Section 3 relating to customs duties and federal internal-revenue importation taxes, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.
So Obama's Amendment turns Reagan's EO 12425 into:

Quote:
By virtue of the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States, including Section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (59 Stat. 669, 22 U.S.C. 288), it is hereby ordered that the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), in which the United States participates pursuant to 22 U.S.C. 263a, is hereby designated as a public international organization entitled to enjoy the privileges, exemptions and immunities conferred by the International Organizations Immunities Act. This designation is not intended to abridge in any respect the privileges, exemptions or immunities which such organization may have acquired or may acquire by international agreement or by Congressional action.
Wow, that's a lot of "except those provided by sections" deleted! So there's NO restrictions anymore? Keep reading....

Here's a link to Int'l Organizations Immunities Act:
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht..._20_XVIII.html

Section 2(c) covers SEARCH AND SEIZURE! INTERPOL is now untouchable on US soil. Remember, the original EO excluded these exemptions! These exemptions now apply to INTERPOL on US soil.
Quote:
(c) Property and assets of international organizations, wherever located and by whomsoever held, shall be immune from search, unless such immunity be expressly waived, and from confiscation. The archives of international organizations shall be inviolable.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inviolable
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1. prohibiting violation; secure from destruction, violence, infringement, or desecration: an inviolable sanctuary; an inviolable promise.
2. incapable of being violated; incorruptible; unassailable: inviolable secrecy.
Section 3 exempts duties and taxation from baggage. INTERPOL now can bring in (or out) a bag with whatever it wants in it. How can you impose duty or tax on something inside a bag you can't search?
Quote:
§ 288b. Baggage and effects of officers and employees exempted from customs duties and internal revenue taxes
Pursuant to regulations prescribed by the Commissioner of Customs with the approval of the Secretary of the Treasury, the baggage and effects of alien officers and employees of international organizations, or of aliens designated by foreign governments to serve as their representatives in or to such organizations, or of the families, suites, and servants of such officers, employees, or representatives shall be admitted (when imported in connection with the arrival of the owner) free of customs duties and free of internal-revenue taxes imposed upon or by reason of importation.
Section 4 exempts all property taxes being levied. INTERPOL can now build or occupy whatever properties it wants within the US and not have to pay any property taxes of any sort.
Quote:
§ 288c. Exemption from property taxes
International organizations shall be exempt from all property taxes imposed by, or under the authority of, any Act of Congress, including such Acts as are applicable solely to the District of Columbia or the Territories.
Section 5 gives immunity from any sort of registration of foreign agents. INTERPOL now doesn't even need to declare themselves or presumably even need a passport to enter the US. SHADOW POLICE! Don't believe me? Read it for yourself! Oh and you can't sue any of them for any reason.
Quote:
§ 288d. Privileges, exemptions, and immunities of officers, employees, and their families; waiver
(a) Persons designated by foreign governments to serve as their representatives in or to international organizations and the officers and employees of such organizations, and members of the immediate families of such representatives, officers, and employees residing with them, other than nationals of the United States, shall, insofar as concerns laws regulating entry into and departure from the United States, alien registration and fingerprinting, and the registration of foreign agents, be entitled to the same privileges, exemptions, and immunities as are accorded under similar circumstances to officers and employees, respectively, of foreign governments, and members of their families.
(b) Representatives of foreign governments in or to international organizations and officers and employees of such organizations shall be immune from suit and legal process relating to acts performed by them in their official capacity and falling within their functions as such representatives, officers, or employees except insofar as such immunity may be waived by the foreign government or international organization concerned.
Section 6, last but not least, sets requirements that foreign agents be "recognized" by the State Dept in order to receive the immunities in this Act. Not anymore!
Quote:
§ 288e. Personnel entitled to benefits
(a) Notification to and acceptance by Secretary of State of personnel
No person shall be entitled to the benefits of this subchapter, unless he
(1) shall have been duly notified to and accepted by the Secretary of State as a representative, officer, or employee; or
(2) shall have been designated by the Secretary of State, prior to formal notification and acceptance, as a prospective representative, officer, or employee; or
(3) is a member of the family or suite, or servant, of one of the foregoing accepted or designated representatives, officers, or employees.
(b) Deportation of undesirables
Should the Secretary of State determine that the continued presence in the United States of any person entitled to the benefits of this subchapter is not desirable, he shall so inform the foreign government or international organization concerned, as the case may be, and after such person shall have had a reasonable length of time, to be determined by the Secretary of State, to depart from the United States, he shall cease to be entitled to such benefits.
(c) Extent of diplomatic status
No person shall, by reason of the provisions of this subchapter, be considered as receiving diplomatic status or as receiving any of the privileges incident thereto other than such as are specifically set forth herein.
So here's the bottom line:

INTERPOL, an international law enforcement agency, has just been granted complete and utter "diplomatic immunity" within the borders of the United States, courtesy of Obama. They are not subject to any Constitutional limitations within the United States. Good luck filing for discovery, documents, witnesses or subpoenas against a police force that is operating outside of the Constitution in your own country! You can't sue them. Their records can't be searched. They are not subject to FOIA requests. You probably won't even know the name of the agent prosecuting you if INTERPOL comes to visit. And they don't have to tell you either.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!

I got a headache now....


(later edit: Wow I just did a google search and my post is all over the net and still spreading. Very cool and thx to everyone that helped get it out there. This seems to be opening some fresh eyes.)
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:04 AM   #2
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Ron Paul should get on this.

CFL asked recently which of 4 issues should be addressed.

The Patriot Act / Dangerous ID was one of the 4. This fits together with those.

This is some scary stuff.
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Old 12-22-2009, 06:19 AM   #3
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It gets better (or worse)

Waco Siege "Enforcer" To Rule Over Global UN and Interpol Police Force coming to US
http://homelessokc.newsvine.com/_new...e-coming-to-us
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For a taste of what Americans who aren't so favorable to taking orders from foreigners on home soil can expect, consider the fact that the secretary general of Interpol, and one of the men at the forefront of setting up the global police force, is none other than Ronald K. Noble.
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Old 12-22-2009, 09:45 AM   #4
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after ww2 we have the situation whereupon to harry s. truman's people, the ancient ww2 era interpol
had an odium & an aura that mayhap only recently dissipated in full, if we go by our potus's new actions!
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:38 PM   #5
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Old 12-22-2009, 12:41 PM   #6
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Carrying Dubya Bush policies to new lows... like EFF.org stated, WORST THAN BUSH!

Investigate the people behind the Puppet. The National Security Council is where much of this ruthless shit comes from.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:00 PM   #7
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I wonder how many Local Sherriff's Departments are aware of this.
This is definitely a breach of trust between the Government and the people here not to mention Local Police and Federal Authorities.
This will only serve to build more paranoia in the minds of those who Are paying attention.
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The first thing I thought was. Does this allow interpol to enter your house and make you house them?
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This could lead to gunfights between Local Authorities and International police.
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:17 PM   #10
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Im glad this is catching on. I hope my write up helped spread the info.

Some interesting takes other people have on this has opened it up a little further to discussion. Just some food for thought on where this could go.

1. Could INTERPOL simply deputize US local, state, federal police? Those cops would suddenly no longer be subject to the Constitution either and would be granted the same immunities while serving as INTERPOL agents. It has been said that INTERPOL doesn't have a formal "police force" but rather just makes use of the authorities where they are operating. (EDIT: It does exclude US Nationals, after all. Will the law be amended soon?)

2. Makes it very easy for INTERPOL agents to move into, around, and then out of US with little to no paper trail, and what paper trail there is would be immune from our legal process. I wonder if another 9/11 is in the works? Obama's approval ratings are falling like rock, while the economy continues downward. Another big 9/11 would be a great tool to consolidate power further while boosting Obama's ratings and distracting from the crap economy.
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