Former Nevada LP State Chair shot by police, is in critical condition

Galileo Galilei · 11-01-2009, 11:01 PM

Former Nevada LP State Chair shot by police, is in critical condition

[PS - Jim is an acquaintance of mine, and is a very quiet, intelligent young man, and is a lawyer and licensed firearms instructor]

October 31st, 2009 · 80 Comments

Ballot Access News

On October 30, Jim Duensing, who was chairman of the Nevada Libertarian Party until March, 2009, was shot by a Las Vegas policeman after the police had stopped Duensing for making an illegal turn and some illegal lane changes. According to this newspaper story, he was in a rental car, and he bolted and ran away from the police. He is still alive but is in critical condition. Duensing was also a Libertarian nominee for U.S. House last year.

http://www.independentpoliticalrepor...cal-condition/

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Identity of man shot by LV police revealed

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"But a witness disputed some of the police account of the shooting. Brandi Burks, 19, said she was standing outside her apartment complex on Cheyenne, west of the Michael Way intersection, when the shooting occurred.

Motorcycle officers had been patrolling the street heavily, pulling over speeders, she said.

She said the officer who pulled over the man chased him when he fled.

Burks said that as the man was running, he kept grabbing his pants, as if to hold them up. She said she did not see a gun and did not see the officer fire a Taser.

She said she saw the officer shoot the man in the back when the man reached the sidewalk. He went down, and officers handcuffed him, she said.

"They shot him in the back," she said. "He was just running."

....

Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada, said those who survive police shootings are able to speak for themselves, unlike coroner's inquests conducted when someone dies.

The ACLU has been a frequent critic of the coroner's inquest process.

....

http://www.lvrj.com/news/identity-of...-67906552.html

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Jim Duensing Explains Shooting Incident

November 1st, 2009

Jim Duensing, who was shot by a Las Vegas policeman on October 30, and who is seeking the Libertarian Party nomination for U.S. Senate in 2010, has issued a detailed, clear explanation of the incident. He was running from the police because they had tasered him and seemed about to do it a second time. Duensing has heart problems. See Independent Political Report here and read comment #73, which is Duensing’s statement.

http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/11...ting-incident/

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Jim is also running for US Senate against Harry Reid:

Jim Duensing for Senate
Security, Prosperity, Liberty
http://www.hellforharry.com/

I think they were trying to kill him.

RideTheDirt · 11-01-2009, 11:13 PM

damnit

Fuck the police

roho76 · 11-01-2009, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei

Jim is also running for US Senate against Harry Reid:

Jim Duensing for Senate
Security, Prosperity, Liberty
http://www.hellforharry.com/

I think they were trying to kill him.

Holy shit ballz!!! It all seemed like your average Police Brutality till I read that.

Anti Federalist · 11-01-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galileo Galilei

I think they were trying to kill him.

I think you may be right.

Well, gosh darn it, some harshly worded letters of disapproval are needed.

That'll settle the cops hash.

Anti Federalist · 11-01-2009, 11:56 PM

Post number 73 http://www.independentpoliticalrepor...tion/#comments

Jim Duensing // Nov 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm

First, I’d like to thank everyone for their prayers and well wishes.

I have suffered a broken arm. It is currently pinned in 4 places. Additional surgery on it will probably take place on Wednesday.

The shots to my midsection missed all vital organs. Three shots were fired from behind me and to my right. The doctors believe that two of the shots made contact. It appears that one entered my right pec, bounced off my sternum, went through my left pec, then shattered my humerous just above my left elbow. The second shot went in my lower right abdomen and exited my left abdomen without hitting any vital organs.

I am well on the way to recovery. and expect to be released from the hospital shortly after my surgery on Wednesday.

I am disappointed that the CCLP issued a press release without having spoken to me first. As a result, it contains misstatements of fact.

Here is what happened.

I was pulled over for driving straight through an intersection in a right turn only lane. I did signal for my lane changes to the left.

After exiting the vehicle at the officer’s request, I was standing with my back to the vehicle. The car’s open door was to my right. My hands were raised above my head. I was calmly speaking to the cop attempting to talk my way out of being taken to jail over an unpaid High Occupancy Vehicle ticket.

With my hands raised above my head, the cop shot me with a taser in the chest. As I have had heart problems since my premature birth, I believe a Taser to be a lethal weapon. Several people without heart conditions have been killed by this weapon.

When the taser began electrocuting me, instinct took over. I have been shocked by standard 120 volt electricity, which is what is used in your home. That was bad enough. Metro’s tasers contain “50,000 volts of pain compliance” according to one of the cops at the family law court who was operating the checkpoint.

Let me tell you, it is quite painful.

I immediately turned to my left and began moving away from the source of the electrocution. By the time I got to the back of the vehicle, I had reached up with both hands, grabbed the electrodes, and pulled them away from my chest. The juice then flowed through my arms - not my heart. As I lay here in my hospital bed, I firmly believe this instinct saved my life.

I continued running away from the taser. I heard the cop fire it again, but did not feel an additional shock.

I was running down the sidewalk with empty hands. I heard three pops from behind me. At first, I thought it was another taser shot. Then, I saw my left arm dangling.

I was taken down by a second officer - who was nearby conducting a separate unrelated traffic stop. He had me lying facedown on my broken arm. It was at this point that he found my licensed and registered pistol in my right cargo pants pocket and my Emerson folding knife in my right front pocket.

Let me reiterate. I am a firearms instructor at the world’s largest firearms training facility. I always carry a gun and at least one knife. I NEVER pulled either of these items out of my pockets.

The shooter was on my right side and from his perspective had to have been able to see that my right hand was indeed empty. The officer that I was running toward never reached for any weapon.

I’d like to publicly thank the Trauma surgeons at the UMC Medical facility. They did an excellent job. The reason additional surgery on my arm is necessary is because the wounds to my chest took priority. For good reason, they worry first about life, then about limb.

Again, thanks everyone for their well wishes. I have spoken to several people on the phone since being released from custody - although I still have not heard from the CCLP or the NVLP chairs.

To my knowledge, the CCLP had not issued a press release in years. I’m not sure why it felt compelled to issue one in this instance which contained misstatements of fact and which clearly tried to distance the CCLP from one of its members. Although, not an officer, I am a voting member of the CCLP excomm. Needless to say, my editing advice was not sought on the press release before it was issued.

Incidentally, I was returning from a trip to Carson City, following the Teabagger Express in support of my 2010 Senate campaign to unseat the Senator from Searchlight.

The campaign website is http://www.HellForHarry.com. I feel compelled to mention this, because neither the RJ nor the LP included this information in their written statements.

Rather than send flowers, please send your condolences in the form of campaign contributions

In liberty, with eternal vigilance,

Jim Duensing

Dieseler · 11-01-2009, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anti Federalist

I think you may be right.

Well, gosh darn it, some harshly worded letters of disapproval are needed.

That'll settle the cops hash.

Lolz, Ya reckon?

Edit, I'm not laughing at this mans situation.
Its not funny at all.

Anti Federalist · 11-02-2009, 12:10 AM

double post

Anti Federalist · 11-02-2009, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieseler

Lolz, Ya reckon?

Edit, I'm not laughing at this mans situation.
Its not funny at all.

No, I'm not laughing at all.

My response is the only one I can have that won't upset the panty wetters and hanky wringers that refuse to accept what's coming or what needs to be done.

The system cannot be reformed, our freedom will not be restored using the system's tools.

And now, it just doesn't even matter anymore, the system is making no attempt anymore of even trying to play by the rules, it just does what it wants, up to and including gunning us down in the streets when it feels like it or throwing us into prison for the rest of our lives.

Galileo Galilei · 11-02-2009, 12:20 AM

Libertarian Senate Candidate Against Harry Reid Shot Three Times in Back by Police

Galileo Galilei · 11-02-2009, 12:27 AM

"The name of the officer who fired his weapon will be released 48 hours after the shooting, according to department policy.

He or she has been placed on paid administrative leave."

11-01-2009, 11:01 PM	#1
Galileo Galilei Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,413	Former Nevada LP State Chair shot by police, is in critical condition Former Nevada LP State Chair shot by police, is in critical condition [PS - Jim is an acquaintance of mine, and is a very quiet, intelligent young man, and is a lawyer and licensed firearms instructor] October 31st, 2009 · 80 Comments Ballot Access News On October 30, Jim Duensing, who was chairman of the Nevada Libertarian Party until March, 2009, was shot by a Las Vegas policeman after the police had stopped Duensing for making an illegal turn and some illegal lane changes. According to this newspaper story, he was in a rental car, and he bolted and ran away from the police. He is still alive but is in critical condition. Duensing was also a Libertarian nominee for U.S. House last year. http://www.independentpoliticalrepor...cal-condition/ ____ Identity of man shot by LV police revealed .... "But a witness disputed some of the police account of the shooting. Brandi Burks, 19, said she was standing outside her apartment complex on Cheyenne, west of the Michael Way intersection, when the shooting occurred. Motorcycle officers had been patrolling the street heavily, pulling over speeders, she said. She said the officer who pulled over the man chased him when he fled. Burks said that as the man was running, he kept grabbing his pants, as if to hold them up. She said she did not see a gun and did not see the officer fire a Taser. She said she saw the officer shoot the man in the back when the man reached the sidewalk. He went down, and officers handcuffed him, she said. "They shot him in the back," she said. "He was just running." .... Allen Lichtenstein, general counsel of the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada, said those who survive police shootings are able to speak for themselves, unlike coroner's inquests conducted when someone dies. The ACLU has been a frequent critic of the coroner's inquest process. .... http://www.lvrj.com/news/identity-of...-67906552.html ____ Jim Duensing Explains Shooting Incident November 1st, 2009 Jim Duensing, who was shot by a Las Vegas policeman on October 30, and who is seeking the Libertarian Party nomination for U.S. Senate in 2010, has issued a detailed, clear explanation of the incident. He was running from the police because they had tasered him and seemed about to do it a second time. Duensing has heart problems. See Independent Political Report here and read comment #73, which is Duensing’s statement. http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/11...ting-incident/ ____ Jim is also running for US Senate against Harry Reid: Jim Duensing for Senate Security, Prosperity, Liberty http://www.hellforharry.com/ I think they were trying to kill him. Last edited by Galileo Galilei; 11-01-2009 at 11:30 PM.

11-01-2009, 11:56 PM	#5
Anti Federalist A verbis ad verbera Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Nine Line Bind Posts: 6,657	Post number 73 http://www.independentpoliticalrepor...tion/#comments Jim Duensing // Nov 1, 2009 at 6:42 pm First, I’d like to thank everyone for their prayers and well wishes. I have suffered a broken arm. It is currently pinned in 4 places. Additional surgery on it will probably take place on Wednesday. The shots to my midsection missed all vital organs. Three shots were fired from behind me and to my right. The doctors believe that two of the shots made contact. It appears that one entered my right pec, bounced off my sternum, went through my left pec, then shattered my humerous just above my left elbow. The second shot went in my lower right abdomen and exited my left abdomen without hitting any vital organs. I am well on the way to recovery. and expect to be released from the hospital shortly after my surgery on Wednesday. I am disappointed that the CCLP issued a press release without having spoken to me first. As a result, it contains misstatements of fact. Here is what happened. I was pulled over for driving straight through an intersection in a right turn only lane. I did signal for my lane changes to the left. After exiting the vehicle at the officer’s request, I was standing with my back to the vehicle. The car’s open door was to my right. My hands were raised above my head. I was calmly speaking to the cop attempting to talk my way out of being taken to jail over an unpaid High Occupancy Vehicle ticket. With my hands raised above my head, the cop shot me with a taser in the chest. As I have had heart problems since my premature birth, I believe a Taser to be a lethal weapon. Several people without heart conditions have been killed by this weapon. When the taser began electrocuting me, instinct took over. I have been shocked by standard 120 volt electricity, which is what is used in your home. That was bad enough. Metro’s tasers contain “50,000 volts of pain compliance” according to one of the cops at the family law court who was operating the checkpoint. Let me tell you, it is quite painful. I immediately turned to my left and began moving away from the source of the electrocution. By the time I got to the back of the vehicle, I had reached up with both hands, grabbed the electrodes, and pulled them away from my chest. The juice then flowed through my arms - not my heart. As I lay here in my hospital bed, I firmly believe this instinct saved my life. I continued running away from the taser. I heard the cop fire it again, but did not feel an additional shock. I was running down the sidewalk with empty hands. I heard three pops from behind me. At first, I thought it was another taser shot. Then, I saw my left arm dangling. I was taken down by a second officer - who was nearby conducting a separate unrelated traffic stop. He had me lying facedown on my broken arm. It was at this point that he found my licensed and registered pistol in my right cargo pants pocket and my Emerson folding knife in my right front pocket. Let me reiterate. I am a firearms instructor at the world’s largest firearms training facility. I always carry a gun and at least one knife. I NEVER pulled either of these items out of my pockets. The shooter was on my right side and from his perspective had to have been able to see that my right hand was indeed empty. The officer that I was running toward never reached for any weapon. I’d like to publicly thank the Trauma surgeons at the UMC Medical facility. They did an excellent job. The reason additional surgery on my arm is necessary is because the wounds to my chest took priority. For good reason, they worry first about life, then about limb. Again, thanks everyone for their well wishes. I have spoken to several people on the phone since being released from custody - although I still have not heard from the CCLP or the NVLP chairs. To my knowledge, the CCLP had not issued a press release in years. I’m not sure why it felt compelled to issue one in this instance which contained misstatements of fact and which clearly tried to distance the CCLP from one of its members. Although, not an officer, I am a voting member of the CCLP excomm. Needless to say, my editing advice was not sought on the press release before it was issued. Incidentally, I was returning from a trip to Carson City, following the Teabagger Express in support of my 2010 Senate campaign to unseat the Senator from Searchlight. The campaign website is http://www.HellForHarry.com. I feel compelled to mention this, because neither the RJ nor the LP included this information in their written statements. Rather than send flowers, please send your condolences in the form of campaign contributions In liberty, with eternal vigilance, Jim Duensing __________________ "The Strength and Power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of Resistance."

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11-01-2009, 11:13 PM	#2
RideTheDirt Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,170	damnit Fuck the police

11-02-2009, 12:10 AM	#7
Anti Federalist A verbis ad verbera Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a Nine Line Bind Posts: 6,657	double post __________________ "The Strength and Power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of Resistance." Last edited by Anti Federalist; 11-02-2009 at 12:19 AM.

11-02-2009, 12:20 AM	#9
Galileo Galilei Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,413	Libertarian Senate Candidate Against Harry Reid Shot Three Times in Back by Police

11-02-2009, 12:27 AM	#10
Galileo Galilei Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,413	"The name of the officer who fired his weapon will be released 48 hours after the shooting, according to department policy. He or she has been placed on paid administrative leave."