GOP: Republican party implosion deepens

[KramerDSP]

I work in a school. I can tell you that today the vast majority of the teachers were disgusted that the principal sent out an e-mail saying the speech would be aired next Monday after parental permissions were gathered and that no such video would be aired today.

They said things like "I hated Bush, but I'd let him speak to the kids about wanting to do well in school". Do they mean it, I don't know. However, the fact remains that these kind of tactics just alienate the people we are trying to get to see that big government doesnt work and that both political parties are corrupted beyond repair. This just makes our jobs harder and gets people all partisan again. Regardless of how you feel about the president speaking to school children, I still contend we need to focus on three issues and three issues only: Foreign Policy, Fiscal Policy, and Civil Liberties. This is where BOTH the left AND the right can agree on, albeit for different reasons.

[Cowlesy]

You know what works for me in conversations with these moderate republicans, when we get to the biggest sticking point (foreign policy), I very non-chalantly (no need to get adversarial) say that is just too anti-freedom/anti-american for me, so after mulling it for a long while, I just can't support it.

It's a very easy way of letting someone ease themselves into our line of thinking. If you put them on the defensive by being explicit in that they're wrong, they'll shutdown and you lose your opportunity.

[anaconda]

Originally Posted by KramerDSP

I work in a school. I can tell you that today the vast majority of the teachers were disgusted that the principal sent out an e-mail saying the speech would be aired next Monday after parental permissions were gathered and that no such video would be aired today.

They said things like "I hated Bush, but I'd let him speak to the kids about wanting to do well in school". Do they mean it, I don't know. However, the fact remains that these kind of tactics just alienate the people we are trying to get to see that big government doesnt work and that both political parties are corrupted beyond repair. This just makes our jobs harder and gets people all partisan again. Regardless of how you feel about the president speaking to school children, I still contend we need to focus on three issues and three issues only: Foreign Policy, Fiscal Policy, and Civil Liberties. This is where BOTH the left AND the right can agree on, albeit for different reasons.

The Federal govt. ramming education down America's throat is not civil liberties. It's a good thing for the Ron Paul Revolution that both parties are completely corrupt. It will build our ranks even faster. Most Americans are content to do nothing as their civil liberties are eroded, their soldiers are sent to terrorize other countries, and their fiscal & monetary policies undermine our nation and enrich a select few. So, I am skeptical about how much the "left and the right agree" on these issues. To the extent that the President wants to be a cheerleader, in my opinion, he or she can leave that for a state of the union address. If people want to remind him of that, I have no problem with that.

[jm1776]

Originally Posted by anaconda

P.S. I laughed when the article made reference to the "moderate/libertarian" Republicans. "Moderate" we aren't..

That

[pennycat]

Chairman Greer decisively squashed dissent within the Republican Party of Florida when he banished 6 party leaders for up to four years. Most had been Republicans all their adult life with some being members of RPOF for over 20 years.

Will Pitts was Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus of Florida. His group had brought in 1000’s of new younger members to RPOF. A well-known builder in the Jacksonville area and owner WG Pitts Company was suspended for 2 years.

Doug Guetzloe, a successful political consultant in the Orlando area, and lifelong Republican was suspended for 13 months and given 1 year probation.

Jason Steele, Chairman of the Brevard County Republican Executive Committee was given a 12 month probation period. Reached by phone he said, “that if the state party hoped to "stifle" his activity with the official punishment, "that's just not going to happen."

These and many other suspensions, probations, say loudly that the Republican Party of Florida is not a big tent, but rather a small clique of narrow-minded tyrants. Dissent is not to be tolerated.

State Party Chairman Jim Greer is unfit to lead and fears the party rank and file. Recent revelations that he lives the high life paid for by RPOF credit cards is causing quite a stir among members.

The bottom line is that if we want the Republican Party of Florida to reflect our common sense values, we are going to have to demand full accountability from our leaders. Their tactics of intimidation and expulsion will need to be fought every step of the way.

We will need to be kept informed of all the misdeeds by Greer and company. To this end I would like to invite everyone that seeks change to join Restore The Republican Party of Florida at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...7504448&ref=ts

The Orlando Sentinel wrote this http://j.mp/3CCRrI Be sure to comment!

The Republican Liberty Caucus wrote this http://j.mp/5M2dQ Good list of where to send your complaints.

Please Forward this!

Sincerely,
Nick Egoroff

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by pennycat

Chairman Greer decisively squashed dissent within the Republican Party of Florida when he banished 6 party leaders for up to four years. Most had been Republicans all their adult life with some being members of RPOF for over 20 years.

Will Pitts was Chairman of the Republican Liberty Caucus of Florida. His group had brought in 1000’s of new younger members to RPOF. A well-known builder in the Jacksonville area and owner WG Pitts Company was suspended for 2 years.

Doug Guetzloe, a successful political consultant in the Orlando area, and lifelong Republican was suspended for 13 months and given 1 year probation.

Jason Steele, Chairman of the Brevard County Republican Executive Committee was given a 12 month probation period. Reached by phone he said, “that if the state party hoped to "stifle" his activity with the official punishment, "that's just not going to happen."

These and many other suspensions, probations, say loudly that the Republican Party of Florida is not a big tent, but rather a small clique of narrow-minded tyrants. Dissent is not to be tolerated.

State Party Chairman Jim Greer is unfit to lead and fears the party rank and file. Recent revelations that he lives the high life paid for by RPOF credit cards is causing quite a stir among members.

The bottom line is that if we want the Republican Party of Florida to reflect our common sense values, we are going to have to demand full accountability from our leaders. Their tactics of intimidation and expulsion will need to be fought every step of the way.

We will need to be kept informed of all the misdeeds by Greer and company. To this end I would like to invite everyone that seeks change to join Restore The Republican Party of Florida at http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...7504448&ref=ts

The Orlando Sentinel wrote this http://j.mp/3CCRrI Be sure to comment!

The Republican Liberty Caucus wrote this http://j.mp/5M2dQ Good list of where to send your complaints.

Please Forward this!

Sincerely,
Nick Egoroff

Nick, just to be fair, wasn't there other problems too? I mean I remember multiple threads about you and the C4L?

[pennycat]

Originally Posted by Sandra

Nick, just to be fair, wasn't there other problems too? I mean I remember multiple threads about you and the C4L?

Just to be fair Sandra, there were Ron Paul supporters, traditional Republicans, and people that live all over the state that were purged.

[Sandra]

I guess I'll just do a search to get an answer.

[angelatc]

Originally Posted by Cowlesy

Is it just me, or do I feel a strong moderate republican resurgence that will be piggybacked by the neo-conservatives, and we'll be right back to Square One in 2010?

Yes, and it is because we don't have any solid leadership at the top. Bottom-up activism is wonderful, but it seems that nobody wants to run for local offices. (Everybody des seem to want to run for US Senate, which is fairly unattainable with no poitical experience!)

It would be nice to see Ron Paul, Liberty PAC or C4L come help these people. They've made significant inroads, but what's the point if nobody at the top actually cares?

[Bern]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=209309