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View Poll Results: Who would you prefer to run in 2012?
Ron Paul 2012 14 46.67%
Gary Johnson 2012 10 33.33%
Other 2012 6 20.00%
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Old 12-05-2008, 11:26 PM   #11
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Education can be achieved through other means which don't tie resources to legal fees, Nepotism, and $20,000 A/C units. An independent, Republican, or Democrat run is entirely useless for ballot access, while the Libertarian and Constitution parties are ineffective, entangled, and infighting. While it's nice to hope, libertarianism (and quite arguably, conservatism/liberalism)has no place in the Executive branch of the United States at this time.

Here's a chart showing where we are:

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2006 House rankings on the Nolan chart. The one at the top is Ron Paul, with Jeff Flake slightly lower and to the right.
whos the other dot? jeff flake?

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Old 12-05-2008, 11:28 PM   #12
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Education can be achieved through other means which don't tie resources to legal fees, Nepotism, and $20,000 A/C units. An independent, Republican, or Democrat run is entirely useless for ballot access, while the Libertarian and Constitution parties are ineffective, entangled, and infighting. While it's nice to hope, libertarianism (and quite arguably, conservatism/liberalism)has no place in the Executive branch of the United States at this time.

Here's a chart showing where we are:

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2006 House rankings on the Nolan chart. The one at the top is Ron Paul, with Jeff Flake slightly lower and to the right.
I understand that it should be primary objective, but a presidential campaign is needed to facilitate that. We will be invisible to everyone, and you cannot win office by being invisible. I think we can have Congress with the ability to uphold a veto if we had a nominee for President, and I think we could win the Presidency.
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Old 12-06-2008, 08:15 AM   #13
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I said other because I'd love to see a Paul/Johnson ticket. Or just Paul or just Johnson.
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Old 12-07-2008, 06:47 PM   #14
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Education can be achieved through other means which don't tie resources to legal fees, Nepotism, and $20,000 A/C units. An independent, Republican, or Democrat run is entirely useless for ballot access, while the Libertarian and Constitution parties are ineffective, entangled, and infighting. While it's nice to hope, libertarianism (and quite arguably, conservatism/liberalism)has no place in the Executive branch of the United States at this time.
I heartily disagree. Voters are primed for a healthy dose of libertarianism, so long as it comes in the correct package (which we have yet to offer except in a few specific instances). A strong, major party candidate with a moderate, libertarian message could easily win a primary if they had the right marketing and branding on their side.

And your Nolan Chart analysis likely uses the "official" version of Nolan Chart questions - which pit tip-of-the-diamond LP purist radicalism vs everything else in the whole of the political spectrum (i.e. it would and has put moderate libertarians into authoritarian territory because they disagreed with the extreme nature of the questions posed).
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:18 PM   #15
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Ron Paul 2012.

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Old 12-07-2008, 09:53 PM   #16
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2010! is way more important!!! get LP and CP and ron paul Republicans elected!
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:11 PM   #17
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lil early but maybe get everyone and combine to 1 at end
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