Codex Standards - Health freedom

JoshLowry · 05-14-2007, 08:10 PM

Nice write up Bryan, I will look these links over. It might take me a while though!

Bryan · 05-14-2007, 09:26 PM

Thanks Josh. I suggest to watch the two videos, it really helps to get some context on the subject.

giskard · 06-04-2007, 10:02 AM

Good stuff Bryan.

I used to often get bad headaches, which I traced to Splenda and Aspartame. The FDA received numerous complaints about those 2 causing headaches.

Since I switched to Stevia (which is from a shrub in South America), no more headaches; tastes much much better to boot. Aspartame is a synthetic molecule. Stevia has an interesting story, in that the FDA has banned it as a food additive, and is available as a "supplement", and acted like the Nazi, trying to seize a warehouse full of cookbooks with recipes using Stevia:

http://www.stevia.com/SteviaArticle.asp?ID=8117

Gary · 06-04-2007, 11:21 PM

The issue here is not even if the individual or the state should decide, but in effect a treaty whose terms seems to be defined after the treaty was signed!

By treaty, we are members of the UN and WTO. But when we signed up for this membership, we certainly were not deciding to forgo our sovereignty. Yet, when the rules can be changed later and forced upon member nations this is exactly what is happenning. This is no longer a treaty but a world-wide legislature. This is WAY TOO much power given to unelected officials in a poorly monitored environment.

I wonder if it is time to drop out of the UN? It no longer seems to be interested in protecting innocent life from war, terror, or "reproductive services" (i.e. forced sterilizations and abortions). In fact, it seems more interested in promoting these things in some cases. If it is uninterested in promoting peace, I can't imagine what value it is.

joenaab · 06-06-2007, 08:40 PM

Bryan, that was an amazing post! This is an issue very dear to me and I've already seen to two videos you posted, but I'm not familiar with most of the other information. I believe the wellness community to be a presently huge untapped source of support for Ron Paul. Remember, this is the group that produced the single largest grassroots movement in history to oppose regulation of vitamins, a record that still stands today.

I think they are like the old walking, talking trees of Lord of the Rings, that can be rallied to make A LOT of noise. Funny in that as I was driving home tonight I was thinking of asking the forum here to start a separate forum devoted to this issue and how to reach out to this community (a community in which I am somewhat embedded).

Bryan · 06-06-2007, 09:33 PM

Thanks Joe. Really. I've presented Josh with the possibility of a community outreach forum, he's not biting yet (sent Josh a PM.

), engaging the health freedom movement is a great idea. I would strongly encourage you to lead an effort on that, I outlined a format to do an outreach in another thread that you could build on, see:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=424

I've been working other issues however so that one is leaderless.

joenaab · 06-18-2007, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan

Thanks Joe. Really. I've presented Josh with the possibility of a community outreach forum, he's not biting yet (sent Josh a PM.

), engaging the health freedom movement is a great idea. I would strongly encourage you to lead an effort on that, I outlined a format to do an outreach in another thread that you could build on, see:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=424

I've been working other issues however so that one is leaderless.

Bryan, I'm on this. Give me some time to follow the above thread and studying more of the links in the OP and I'll get back to both you and Josh with my thoughts.

buffalokid777 · 06-26-2007, 12:35 AM

joenabb,

I have known about this garbage for a long time.....

The Codex Alimentarius is just a way to make people sick and unhealthy.....to be exploited for profit...from socialized medicine....

To all people reading this.....if you are well and healthy......no need to read further...

If you are not healthy....this info is important....

1.) DO NOT DRINK TAP WATER......

10 years ago I was someone who drank tap water.....I also was very sick more often than most......

My teeth were falling out.....I had several root canals....I would be very sick and tired all the time...

But thanks to the grace of GOD....someone turned me on to what is really in tap water and the need for PURE water to be healthy.....

I took that advice...and at first began drinking bottled water that I trusted....

Eventually, I got a water purification system I could trust....

Just that simple change has helped more than anything.....

No more dental problems....

I haven't been sick in 10+ years.....

The tap water in most areas of the US includes fluoride.....

FLUORIDE IS A POISON MORE TOXIC THAN LEAD......

If you give 1 person a mg of fluoride....and another a mg of lead....

If you continue to give each subject 1mg of lead and fluoride and they are similar in terms of body mass....

THE PERSON BEING GIVEN FLUORIDE WILL DIE BEFORE THE PERSON BEING GIVEN LEAD....

Lead is BANNED in most products in the US.....

Yet the US puts Fluoride in the drinking water despite it being more poisonous than lead???

WAKE UP....IF YOU ARE DRINKING TAP WATER IN A FLUORIDATED COMMUNITY....YOU ARE BEING SLOWLY POISONED.....

More and more people are waking up to the toxicity of Fluoride....More communities and countries are rejecting fluoride in the water....

Want to be healthy??? Start by removing fluoridated water from your drinking beverages and cooking recipies. If you are having dental problems....you'll be amazed at how fast they go away once you stop poisoning your body with fluoride.

buffalokid777 · 06-26-2007, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by giskard

Good stuff Bryan.

I used to often get bad headaches, which I traced to Splenda and Aspartame. The FDA received numerous complaints about those 2 causing headaches.

Since I switched to Stevia (which is from a shrub in South America), no more headaches; tastes much much better to boot. Aspartame is a synthetic molecule. Stevia has an interesting story, in that the FDA has banned it as a food additive, and is available as a "supplement", and acted like the Nazi, trying to seize a warehouse full of cookbooks with recipes using Stevia:

http://www.stevia.com/SteviaArticle.asp?ID=8117

THE PERSON WHO POSTED QUOTE ABOVE IS 1000% CORRECT....

Stevia is the best choice you can make for a sweetner.....The reason it hasn't been approved as a food additive...IS IT IS NATURAL.....IT CANT BE PATENTED.......

Aspartame doen't affect me negatively....but splenda sure does.....but alot of people are affected negatively by aspartame and splenda.....

But an argument can be made that processed sugar is just as poisoness as artificial sweetnerts like splenda and aspartame.......

Processed sugar Is BLEACHED....to make it white....yes you are eating bleach when you eat sugar.....

Stevia is a natural sweetner from the glands on the leaves of stevia plants.....

If you use sugar, aspartame, or splenda as a sweetner...try stevia instead.....it's an all natural alternative that can help your families health.

I have NOT been sick in 10+ years...IT CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU ALSO IF YOU LISTEN TO THE GOOD INFORMATION YOU ARE BEING GIVEN.....

Wendi · 06-26-2007, 07:34 AM

What makes this truly sinister and dangerous is that certain groups try to pass it off as a myth anytime anyone talks about CODEX. Snopes.com used to have it listed in the "false" category of their urban legends page (I haven't looked in a while, out of frustration), and they weren't the only "debunkers" thinking they were doing the world a favor by "proving" we have nothing to worry about.

06-06-2007, 08:40 PM	#5
joenaab Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brazil Posts: 561	Bryan, that was an amazing post! This is an issue very dear to me and I've already seen to two videos you posted, but I'm not familiar with most of the other information. I believe the wellness community to be a presently huge untapped source of support for Ron Paul. Remember, this is the group that produced the single largest grassroots movement in history to oppose regulation of vitamins, a record that still stands today. I think they are like the old walking, talking trees of Lord of the Rings, that can be rallied to make A LOT of noise. Funny in that as I was driving home tonight I was thinking of asking the forum here to start a separate forum devoted to this issue and how to reach out to this community (a community in which I am somewhat embedded). __________________ “The care of human life and happiness and not their destruction is the first and only legitimate object of good government.” – Thomas Jefferson

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05-14-2007, 08:10 PM	#1
JoshLowry Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 6,855	Nice write up Bryan, I will look these links over. It might take me a while though!

05-14-2007, 09:26 PM	#2
Bryan Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,978	Thanks Josh. I suggest to watch the two videos, it really helps to get some context on the subject.

06-04-2007, 10:02 AM	#3
giskard Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 278	Good stuff Bryan. I used to often get bad headaches, which I traced to Splenda and Aspartame. The FDA received numerous complaints about those 2 causing headaches. Since I switched to Stevia (which is from a shrub in South America), no more headaches; tastes much much better to boot. Aspartame is a synthetic molecule. Stevia has an interesting story, in that the FDA has banned it as a food additive, and is available as a "supplement", and acted like the Nazi, trying to seize a warehouse full of cookbooks with recipes using Stevia: http://www.stevia.com/SteviaArticle.asp?ID=8117

06-04-2007, 11:21 PM	#4
Gary Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 57	The issue here is not even if the individual or the state should decide, but in effect a treaty whose terms seems to be defined after the treaty was signed! By treaty, we are members of the UN and WTO. But when we signed up for this membership, we certainly were not deciding to forgo our sovereignty. Yet, when the rules can be changed later and forced upon member nations this is exactly what is happenning. This is no longer a treaty but a world-wide legislature. This is WAY TOO much power given to unelected officials in a poorly monitored environment. I wonder if it is time to drop out of the UN? It no longer seems to be interested in protecting innocent life from war, terror, or "reproductive services" (i.e. forced sterilizations and abortions). In fact, it seems more interested in promoting these things in some cases. If it is uninterested in promoting peace, I can't imagine what value it is.

06-06-2007, 09:33 PM	#6
Bryan Admin Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,978	Thanks Joe. Really. I've presented Josh with the possibility of a community outreach forum, he's not biting yet (sent Josh a PM. ), engaging the health freedom movement is a great idea. I would strongly encourage you to lead an effort on that, I outlined a format to do an outreach in another thread that you could build on, see: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=424 I've been working other issues however so that one is leaderless.

06-26-2007, 12:35 AM	#8
buffalokid777 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,699	joenabb, I have known about this garbage for a long time..... The Codex Alimentarius is just a way to make people sick and unhealthy.....to be exploited for profit...from socialized medicine.... To all people reading this.....if you are well and healthy......no need to read further... If you are not healthy....this info is important.... 1.) DO NOT DRINK TAP WATER...... 10 years ago I was someone who drank tap water.....I also was very sick more often than most...... My teeth were falling out.....I had several root canals....I would be very sick and tired all the time... But thanks to the grace of GOD....someone turned me on to what is really in tap water and the need for PURE water to be healthy..... I took that advice...and at first began drinking bottled water that I trusted.... Eventually, I got a water purification system I could trust.... Just that simple change has helped more than anything..... No more dental problems.... I haven't been sick in 10+ years..... The tap water in most areas of the US includes fluoride..... FLUORIDE IS A POISON MORE TOXIC THAN LEAD...... If you give 1 person a mg of fluoride....and another a mg of lead.... If you continue to give each subject 1mg of lead and fluoride and they are similar in terms of body mass.... THE PERSON BEING GIVEN FLUORIDE WILL DIE BEFORE THE PERSON BEING GIVEN LEAD.... Lead is BANNED in most products in the US..... Yet the US puts Fluoride in the drinking water despite it being more poisonous than lead??? WAKE UP....IF YOU ARE DRINKING TAP WATER IN A FLUORIDATED COMMUNITY....YOU ARE BEING SLOWLY POISONED..... More and more people are waking up to the toxicity of Fluoride....More communities and countries are rejecting fluoride in the water.... Want to be healthy??? Start by removing fluoridated water from your drinking beverages and cooking recipies. If you are having dental problems....you'll be amazed at how fast they go away once you stop poisoning your body with fluoride.

06-26-2007, 07:34 AM	#10
Wendi Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,273	What makes this truly sinister and dangerous is that certain groups try to pass it off as a myth anytime anyone talks about CODEX. Snopes.com used to have it listed in the "false" category of their urban legends page (I haven't looked in a while, out of frustration), and they weren't the only "debunkers" thinking they were doing the world a favor by "proving" we have nothing to worry about.