Why There's No Returns from Louisiana

[egarris]

You won't see any Presidential numbers for Louisiana from the caucuses.

Today's caucuses elected delegates to the Feb. 16 state convention. The various Presidential candidates put together slates of delegates for each caucus, but they are still unpledged delegates. These delegates attend the state convention and congressional caucuses at the state convention. The state convention will choose delegates to the national convention. (There is a Feb. 9 primary straw poll, but it is not-binding unless a candidate gets 50%, an unlikely event.)

Unless one of the campaigns knows ahead of time that they elected a majority of delegates statewide and are ready to announce it, there will be no announcement of national delegate allocation until the Feb. 16 state convention.

[hueylong]

Uhh. We already knew that.

[TexMac]

Well, of course you did. Some people are still confused, though.

[ihsv]

Hmmmm... no wonder no one's covering it

Sounds like a screwy set up to me.

[CorkyAgain]

So we need everyone who participated in the caucus to report in and let us know how things went in their district.

Very savvy work, Louisiana. It looks like you might have caught the other campaigns flat-footed. Proud on ya!

[terryp]

Thanks for the info

[Gadsden Flag]

From all indications, we just owned Louisiana. Not to be overly optimistic, but it seems like a state which the other campaigns mostly forgot about and the Paul supporters were just as dedicated as anywhere else.

Hopefully everything stays together long enough for February 16th.

[dawnbt]

Uhh. We already knew that.

I didn't~

[yankee_blue]

Hmmmm... no wonder no one's covering it

Sounds like a screwy set up to me.

It's actually quite genius by design. If the RNC has brokered convention and LA delegates are "uncommited" (but really RP delegates), this can get mighty interesting.

[nodope0695]

Uhh. We already knew that.

I didn't know that, at least not exactly. Some of us need it broken down barney style

[Shii]

Hmmmm... no wonder no one's covering it

Sounds like a screwy set up to me.

It is, this was meant to be an under the table thing so that a political machine could go to the local caucus and take the state convention, they weren't counting on such a big turnout to local caucuses.

[Karsten]

Uhh. We already knew that.

I didn't.

[seapilot]

From all indications, we just owned Louisiana. Not to be overly optimistic, but it seems like a state which the other campaigns mostly forgot about and the Paul supporters were just as dedicated as anywhere else.

Hopefully everything stays together long enough for February 16th.

This is our secret key to winning that no one talks about. Most of the smaller states will be forgotten on super tuesday yet Ron Paul Grassroots is present in EVERY STATE.

This is also under the medias radar, Iowa, NH and SC were overhyped as Ron Paul mentioned we only had 3 little primaries! The media cant cover super tuesday thus a lot of people might not even know to go out and vote.

[CJLauderdale4]

Leave it to Louisiana to make it so screwy that even if all delegates were for Ron Paul, there could still be some backdoor way for us to get screwed...

Man, it never fails in LA...
I miss home...

[JustBcuz]

It is, this was meant to be an under the table thing so that a political machine could go to the local caucus and take the state convention, they weren't counting on such a big turnout to local caucuses.

Yep.

Having uncommitted delegates at the Nat'l Convention could potentially be a HUGE bargaining chip. I think this is what the LA GOP was thinking.

Know the rules in your state, and EXPLOIT them.

[zadrock]

So at some point, doesn't the LA GOP have to release the names of the delegates who were elected? Once that is releasted, it shouldn't take long for the good LA grassroots to note how many of these delegates are Ron Paul supporters, since the rest of us will have no idea. Then we'll know how many of the 105 state delegates we have and can project our total of the 44 national delegates available.

Do we think we'll know this tonight, or not until tomorrow?

Thanks again to the LA meetups! Sounds like it was a FANTASTIC night. Next time I'm down there, the first round at Patty O'Shea's is on me! (Is Patty O's too touristy? We can go somewhere that the "locals" prefer!)

Z

[yankee_blue]

So at some point, doesn't the LA GOP have to release the names of the delegates who were elected? Once that is releasted, it shouldn't take long for the good LA grassroots to note how many of these delegates are Ron Paul supporters, since the rest of us will have no idea. Then we'll know how many of the 105 state delegates we have and can project our total of the 44 national delegates available.

Do we think we'll know this tonight, or not until tomorrow?

Thanks again to the LA meetups! Sounds like it was a FANTASTIC night. Next time I'm down there, the first round at Patty O'Shea's is on me! (Is Patty O's too touristy? We can go somewhere that the "locals" prefer!)

Z

It's actually Pat O'Briens! But anywhere in the quarter is fine by me. If we have a win here all should sign up for pauldigras!

I'm monitoring the meetup chatter and as soon as something can be reported I'll report it. Who needs sleep?

[zadrock]

It's actually Pat O'Briens!

D'OH!! Well, there's the new advertising campaign. Our Hurricanes are so good, you'll forget the name of our bar!

Damn, I'd love to vote for Ron Paul and then party in the French Quarter. My polling place is a suburban middle school - not quite the same.

Thanks for keeping us informed. I only just realized that if there are up to 15 votes per paper ballot, it must take FOREVER to count that, so that probably explains the delay...

Z

ETA: Just remembered... O'Shea's is the Irish pub/casino on the Strip in Vegas, which I've been to more recently than Pat O'Brien's.

[dkim68]

(There is a Feb. 9 primary straw poll, but it is not-binding unless a candidate gets 50%, an unlikely event.)

Beware of the Romney people at that Feb. 9th Straw Poll! Watch these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDjPY_ngxNU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1-Mk-q1VPw

Be proactive in preventing this kind of fraud before it takes place down there in Louisiana. Speak with election officials, make sure they have not been bought by Romney. Find out how to stop multiple votes being placed by a single individual before they have a chance to try and get away with it. It should be one ticket per individual for Straw polls.

[fmontez]

So, if a candidate gets 50% + of the vote, all our Ron paul delegates will have to go to National and vote for that candidate.. oh, that would smart.

[Ironyinc]

So, if a candidate gets 50% + of the vote, all our Ron paul delegates will have to go to National and vote for that candidate.. oh, that would smart.

Only 20(or close to that number) would have to vote for them, the rest remain uncommitted. Also, they only must vote for that candidate in the first round, afterwards if no one gets the 50% + 1 of the delegates they become uncommitted again.

At least, that's what I remember reading. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[JustBcuz]

Only 20(or close to that number) would have to vote for them, the rest remain uncommitted. Also, they only must vote for that candidate in the first round, afterwards if no one gets the 50% + 1 of the delegates they become uncommitted again.

At least, that's what I remember reading. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

That's correct. In a brokered convention scenario, no one will get 50% +1 in the first go around; so any RP delegates that had been bound will then be free to vote for Ron Paul in the 2nd ballot.

[tonyr1988]

That's correct. In a brokered convention scenario, no one will get 50% +1 in the first go around; so any RP delegates that had been bound will then be free to vote for Ron Paul in the 2nd ballot.

Just to clarify a small thing: not all RP delegates will be free to vote "according to their conscience" after the first round - each state is different. Most states allow you to be free after the first round, but not all (I think California, for example, bounds you for the first 3 rounds).

Unless you were talking about all LA delegates, then that may be true. I dunno.

[JustBcuz]

Just to clarify a small thing: not all RP delegates will be free to vote "according to their conscience" after the first round - each state is different. Most states allow you to be free after the first round, but not all (I think California, for example, bounds you for the first 3 rounds).

Unless you were talking about all LA delegates, then that may be true. I dunno.

I meant just the LA delegates; you are correct to bring that up.





Every state has different rules. Know the rules for YOUR state, and EXPLOIT them.