Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened - army chief

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Does anyone know what is Ron Paul's policy towards Russia?


19/ 01/ 2008



MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.

The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

Baluyevsky's comments come amid growing tensions between Russia and NATO over the alliance's expansion into the former Eastern Bloc, the United States' plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic, and Moscow's increasingly assertive military stance.

Russia resumed strategic bomber patrol flights over the Pacific, Atlantic, and Arctic oceans last August, and on December 12, 2007 imposed a unilateral moratorium on the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty, a key arms reduction pact.

Baluyevsky said that in order to protect Russia's interests, military force "can and must be used" when "all other means prove ineffective."

Programs to develop Russia's military must be closely linked to national fiscal planning, "taking into account the state's economic resources," he said.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080119/97339084.html


McCain laughs, Sings Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

John Bolton wants a US attack on Iran within Six Months

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y7y0EDhDPc4

Russia (Soviet) first atomic bomb test. 1947

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6JSLK-UnJyc

Russian Topol-M launching a Satelite

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs




"Iranians have a fine image from Russians in mind" - Ayatollah Sayed Ali Khamenei

Source -
The Office of the Supreme Leader, Sayyid Ali Khamenei

Source of photo - http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/text/images/148519.shtml

[thuja]

he would not threaten them, so they would have no cause to use weapons against us.

[kushaze]

World War III? or Cold War II?

[Goldwater Conservative]

Guys, I think this makes it pretty obvious that we MUST take military action. Make them meet their 72 virgins at the gates of hell if need be. Anything less would be isolationism that allowed Hitler to come to power and I ate Thanksgiving dinner with the troops and they want us to win.

[minitri97]

I'm quite sure every country that has nuclear weapons are "prepared" to use them to defend themselves...and have been for 50 years. This is not news.

[zach]

Guys, I think this makes it pretty obvious that we MUST take military action. Make them meet their 72 virgins at the gates of hell if need be. Anything less would be isolationism that allowed Hitler to come to power and I ate Thanksgiving dinner with the troops and they want us to win.

^^ROFL!!

[AceNZ]

Russia has always been willing to use force to defend themselves or their allies. It sounds like posturing, both to help deter deployment of a missile shield in eastern Europe and to counter US threats of a first strike in Iran.

The most interesting part of the statement to me is "including preventative action" ... I wonder what they're thinking on that one.

[New Governor Of Alaska]

he would not threaten them, so they would have no cause to use weapons against us.

Hello, thuja.
How do you know that?

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Russian Topol-M launching a Satelite

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Make them meet their 72 virgins at the gates of hell if need be.

This 72 virgin thing is something from Qaran, Goldwater Conservative. But Russia is not a Muslim country.


Russia, Belarus defense chiefs sign communications deal
19/ 01/ 2008


MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - The defense ministers of Russia and Belarus signed an agreement on Saturday to set up a communications system between regional groupings of the countries' Armed Forces.

Russia's Anatoly Serdyukov and his Belarusian counterpart Leonid Maltsev met in Moscow for talks on bilateral military cooperation.

Serdyukov said last year that the development of military ties with Russia's ex-Soviet neighbor have been encouraged by NATO's eastward expansion and U.S. missile shield plans, and that Russia would continue to supply arms and military hardware to Belarus at subsidized rates and on a priority basis.

The countries are developing a unified air defense system in line with plans to create a Union State, which they have been working on since 1997, envisioning a common economic, customs, and political space.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080119/97349992.html

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Russian Topol-M launching a Satelite

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs

[thuja]

Hello, thuja.
How do you know that?

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Russian Topol-M launching a Satelite

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QIzXI-mlJjs

well, it's certainly what i've been hearing from him.

[fmontez]

It does bring up some cocerns associated with Dr. Pauls foreign policy... it is his weakest link (as far as most Republicans are concerned.) But rest assured this is Russia playing hard ball with Islamofascists not Europe or the USA>

[Goldwater Conservative]

This 72 virgin thing is something from Qaran, Goldwater Conservative. But Russia is not a Muslim country.

I was making fun of debate comments made by Thompson, Huckabee, and McCain.

[Stoli]

Guys, I think this makes it pretty obvious that we MUST take military action. Make them meet their 72 virgins at the gates of hell if need be. Anything less would be isolationism that allowed Hitler to come to power and I ate Thanksgiving dinner with the troops and they want us to win.

LMAO

[New Governor Of Alaska]

The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

And the media totally ignores this report. Hmmmm....

[hawks4ronpaul]

The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

Allies=Serbs: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/7462/

One of Bill Clinton's unfinished wars.


http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

[Paul10]

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[Brutus]

The problem I see is that conventional armies are very expensive to use. Nukes are cheap. Since the US's bankruptcy is being exposed I think that using nukes will be very attractive to OUR political leaders. That is why "nothing is off the table."

Playing world dominator is very expensive, especially when you don't produce much in the way of goods to trade for your oil, tvs, cars, cell phones, etc.

[New Governor Of Alaska]

BBC reports:
Gen Baluyevsky sees a threat from countries seeking global hegemony

Russia's military chief of staff has said Moscow is ready to use force, including pre-emptively and with nuclear weapons, to defend itself.
In a speech to a military conference broadcast on state-run cable TV, Gen Baluyevsky said there were potential threats to Russia from international terrorism or countries seeking global or regional hegemony.

"We do not intend to attack anyone, but we consider it necessary for all our partners in the world community to clearly understand ... that to defend the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, military forces will be used, including preventively, including with the use of nuclear weapons," he said.

read more - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7198181.stm


I understand that lack of information in Western media about the events that take place in former Soviet Block make people in US wonder - what's up with this Russian general? Why would he made such a statement? Correct?

Well, obviously you won't get the answer from people at CNN, MSNBC, ABC or Fox News. All they do is report about Britney Spears, Paris Hilton and "new" Osama bin Laden tapes.

The situation, however, is pretty dangerous.

Today's situation reminds me of 1941, the year when Germany invaded the Soviet Union.

To see the whole picture one needs to go back to 1980s (the time of Perestroika).....

The article NATO Build-Up On Russia's Borders by Valentin Zorin will take you back to era of Gorbachev when West was ultra-friendly with the Soviet Union....



It was then.

This is now -




NATO Build-Up On Russia's Borders
Worst Treachery Since Munich 1938

by Valentin Zorin

Allow me to start off with a personal recollection. I accompanied Mikhail Gorbachev on his visit to the United States of America almost seventeen years ago, and attended, as another adviser, Gorbachev’s meetings with George Bush Sr., and that gave me a rare chance to watch what historians of the future will surely be inclined to describe as the biggest breach of confidence and compare to the notoriously known Munich agreement between France and Britain, on the one hand, and Nazi Germany, on the other.

Mikhail Gorbachev and George Bush Sr. focused on the reunification of divided Germany. President Bush saw the reunification of Germany as a fundamental factor of continental stability and global detente.

He repeatedly assured Soviet leader Gorbachev that the reunification of Germany would never take the North Atlantic Alliance closer to the Soviet border. I can still open my old notebook or play back an old tape to recall what he said: “The allied forces will not be inching closer to your border.”

...

The arrival of NATO forces at the border of Russia translates into more than a threat to the Russian Federation. Russia will find a way to meet this threat. The American super-hawks had better remember that Russia remains a powerful country with impressive stocks of nuclear missiles.

READ MORE -

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=4918

Russian Air Force - Thunder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkOhKOCF5XI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H55ZvOPcMCQ

Russian army
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2hvObzZt0g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9jQSfnWsnw


ICBM Russian Missiles Launch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BCoBGdvyiQ

Russian Airborne Assault Troops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofowdcWeHF0

[New Governor Of Alaska]

So does anyone know what is Ron Paul's policy towards Russia?




Russia concerned over NATO military buildup around its borders

23/ 01/ 2008

MOSCOW, January 23 (RIA Novosti) - Russia is concerned over NATO's expansion, which is aimed at building up its military potential around Russian borders rather than strengthening European security, the foreign minister said on Wednesday.

Russia has been unnerved by NATO's eastward expansion and recent U.S. plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic.
"We are certain that the geographical expansion of NATO cannot be justified by security concerns," Sergei Lavrov told a news conference in Moscow.

READ MORE -

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080123/97602111.html

[Holly]

I hope I'm not missing the point here, but it appears the concern is "and its allies". Isn't Iran an ally of Russia?

From Global Research.ca

Russia and Central Asian Allies Conduct War Games in Response to US Threats

by Michel Chossudovsky

Global Research, August 24, 2006

Barely acknowledged by the Western media, military exercises organized by Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan under the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, (CSTO) were launched on the 24th of August. These war games, officially tagged as part of a counter terrorism program, are in direct response to US military threats in the region including the planned attacks against Iran.

......Observers say Russia is leaning more and more towards the Iranian view that countries from outside should be banned from having armed forces in the Caspian Sea

......While Iran is not a member of the CSTO, it has observer status in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), of which China is a member.

The SCO has a close relationship to the CSTO. The structure of military alliances is crucial. In case of an attack on Iran, Russia and its CSTO allies will not remain neutral. In April, Iran was invited to become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

......Sofar no concrete timetable for Iran's accession to the SCO has been set.

Full article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...xt=va&aid=3056

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Well, what do you want us to do? It seems like the West (Zionist West) doesn't want to be a friend any more....
At the end of Perestroika Moscow allowed the countries of the Soviet Block to go free and do whatever they please....
Russia agreed to a unification of Germany.
Russia even let former Soviet republics to become independent countries.
Russia closed her military bases in Cuba and Vietman.
And what do we have in return? NATO troops at our borders and anti-Russian propaganda in Western media?

Bush speech stokes row with Kremlin

June 5, 2007

President Bush risked further anger from the Kremlin today when he said that democracy in Russia had suffered under Vladimir Putin's rule.

Just hours before his arrival at the G8 summit in Germany — where proceedings have already been overshadowed by a row over America's plans to install missile interceptors in Eastern Europe — Mr Bush did little to improve the chill in relations between Moscow and the West.

Delivering a prepared speech in the Czech Republic, an erstwhile Soviet satellite that could soon house a US missile tracking facility, Mr Bush listed a number of countries where democracy was partial or where recent freedoms were in danger.

Although he acknowledged that freedom moves "at different speeds in different places", the US President levelled a particular accusation at Mr Putin and Moscow. "In Russia, reforms that once promised to empower citizens have been derailed, with troubling implications for democratic development," he said.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1887320.ece

Putin says Russia will not tolerate NATO military build up
20/ 11/ 2007
MOSCOW, November 20 (RIA Novosti) - President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia would not ignore NATO's military build up near its borders and would provide an adequate response to any "muscle-flexing."
"In violation of previous agreements, NATO members' military resources are being built up next to our borders," Putin said at a Defense Ministry meeting with senior military staff. "Certainly, we cannot allow ourselves to remain indifferent to this obvious muscle-flexing."

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071120/88795630.html

[New Governor Of Alaska]

I was making fun of debate comments made by Thompson, Huckabee, and McCain.

I don't really recall what they said.... Do you have some quotes, Goldwater Conservative?

Russia to respond 'appropriately' to Ukrainian NATO membership

MOSCOW, January 22 (RIA Novosti) - The Russian Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday that the country would have to take "appropriate measures" if Ukraine were to join NATO.

A Ukrainian government letter to the NATO chief, setting out the country's bid to join an action plan to gain membership of the Western military alliance, was published in Kiev last week.

"Ukraine's possible integration into NATO will exacerbate Russian-Ukrainian relations in many areas. We will have to take appropriate measures in response," the ministry said.

In particularly strident language, although not marking a change from earlier stated policies, the Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow on Saturday that: "the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080122/97535389.html

Russia's SU - 47 "Berkut" -



Video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP2p72ANEZA

http://www.flymig.com/aircraft/Su-47/album.htm

[raiha]

Well hopefully Russia will stay away from pre-emptive war and not follow the example of other nations who embark on it.

Dr Strangelove:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

[SeanEdwards]

Ok, who put the wings on backwards? Somebody fess up.

[AceNZ]

American imperialism certainly does have a way of pissing people off, doesn't it?

[coastie]

MOSCOW, January 19 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.

The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."

Ummm, I thought Russia and Iran are close trading partners? Does'nt Russia get most of its oil from them?

I think this is, in fact, a subtle warning to US, to not attack Iran.

Anyone who honestly believes that Russia AND China will just sit by and do nothing if - no- WHEN, we attack Iran, is living with their heads in the clouds.

[kimo]

Well hopefully Russia will stay away from pre-emptive war and not follow the example of other nations who embark on it.

Dr Strangelove:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

Honestly, I cann`t imagen Russia to start any pre-emptive war in larger regions at the moment. They fase so many problems in keeping rest off it, it goes to Caucasus, Tatarstan, some north regions, even Siberia..They are broke, military corrupt, and so on. Donn`t forget they also in election fazes and I rate it like another should say cheap " comment", as it to be sounded like that "they could use nuke, to maintane and protect their own integrity".

[New Governor Of Alaska]

Well hopefully Russia will stay away from pre-emptive war and not follow the example of other nations who embark on it.

Dr Strangelove:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0mxcpPOU

Hello, Raiha. Do you know where is Ron Paul on US anti-missile base in Central Europe?


Russia's new envoy to NATO presents Scheffer with tomahawk



BRUSSELS, January 28 (RIA Novosti) - Recently-appointed Russian envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, presented Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer with a special souvenir tomahawk on Monday.

Rogozin began his work at the organization's HQ in Brussels on Monday. He gave Scheffer an official letter and during a meeting an inlaid war tomahawk, especially made in Russia.

Rogozin said he hoped that the NATO secretary general would bury the hatchet as a sign of "putting an end to all conflicts between Russia and NATO."

http://en.rian.ru/world/20080128/97885149.html

Russia doesn't want to go to war, but America sure does, just check the record - find out how many countries America bombed AFTER the end of WWII.
During Perestroika many things have changed, we were friends. And now what?...

It seems like US has a death wish.....

Ok, who put the wings on backwards? Somebody fess up.

Hello, SeanEdwards.

The foward swept wings give number of advantages. Thanks to these type of wings airplane's ability to go from ground to high altitude increases in 30%.
You can actually see that - http://youtube.com/watch?v=H1wXsygQTVA

Forward Swept Wing
http://www.fighter-planes.com/info/s37.htm
The forward swept midwing gives the unusual and characteristic appearance of the Su-47.
http://www.airforce-technology.com/p...ndex.html#s374

If you wish to learn more go to - http://www.sukhoi.org/eng

[markj]

The Dogs of War
Pink Floyd

Dogs of war and men of hate
With no cause, we don't discriminate
Discovery is to be disowned
Our currency is flesh and bone
Hell opened up and put on sale
Gather 'round and haggle
For hard cash, we will lie and deceive
Even our masters don't know the webs we weave

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

Invisible transfers, long distance calls,
Hollow laughter in marble halls
Steps have been taken, a silent uproar
Has unleashed the dogs of war
You can't stop what has begun
Signed, sealed, they deliver oblivion
We all have a dark side, to say the least
And dealing in death is the nature of the beast

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

The dogs of war don't negotiate
The dogs of war won't capitulate,
They will take and you will give,
And you must die so that they may live
You can knock at any door,
But wherever you go, you know they've been there before
Well winners can lose and things can get strained
But whatever you change, you know the dogs remain.

One world, it's a battleground
One world, and we will smash it down
One world ... One world

Can we stop this insanity now please?

[Knightskye]

Hahahaha.

Well, Dr. Paul doesn't want to threaten Russia, so that's not a problem. And he says he's willing to talk with other countries. "You're no more a threat to me than the Soviets were." (Ron Paul about Iran).