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Thread: Are RON PAUL signs ILLEGAL in your city?

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    (I'm not a lawyer, but I've looked into this some.) You can place signs on your private property, with two exceptions: 1) if your neighborhood has an association or covenant barring the placement of such signs, or 2) your municipality considers X feet from the street/road to be an easement or "public right of way", in which case you simply place your sign more than X feet from the street/road.

    Now to take a quick detour here, I don't believe, personally, a neighborhood rule against signs should be considered unconstitutional provided it is part of a covenant you agreed to when you bought the property. A deal's a deal. Also, I personally don't think the Constitution enters into it since the Constitution defines the limited powers of the Federal government and lists some explicit limitations thereof. The modern idea that the bill of rights applies to the states is part of what's called "incorporation doctrine", which is a result of the 14th amendment. But the wording of the 14th seems to be a pretty shaky foundation for such a doctrine in my humble opinion. Besides, for some of the amendments in the Bill of Rights to even make sense as applied to the states, they would have to be re-worded.

    Okay, sorry, I got a bit side-tracked there.



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    Hi Annie, excellent thread.

    Here are the rules for DC posted on the Board of Elections and Ethics website:
    http://www.dcboee.org/information/in.../cam_post.shtm
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    If a sign cannot go in the yard yet, could it possibly go inside your window, plainly visible? There may be size limitations, "cannot cover more than x% of the window," but you may be able to get it visible earlier without the worry if you have a large window. (or any window if the ordinances don't speak to that)

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    Why would you ask? If you have to ask the answer will most likely be NO. Put the sign anywhere you want...........this is a revolution there are no rules!

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    It is this type of "social anarchy" methods that are shipwrecking your campaign. The more responsible members here have pointed that fact out .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beaglelover View Post
    It is this type of "social anarchy" methods that are shipwrecking your campaign. The more responsible members here have pointed that fact out .....
    Actually, it is this type of behavior that has MADE our campaign. And in fact, most of those municipal regs are unconstitutional and that has been proven in court

    Try again. Interesting that you have dug out this thread for your little soapbox
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    You are 100% correct when you state, "Actually, it is this type of behavior that has MADE our campaign." Now, face the reality of WHERE your campaign is .... and how irresponsible actions such as this have helped to shipwreck it.

    Please also be aware that the courts have NEVER stated a local municipality cannot regulate political signs. In fact, they CAN and DO enforce certain parameters of responsible posting of such signs while guaranteeing the expression of political speech.

    What the courts HAVE determined is that each community may restrict or regulate such sign placement. The FEW communities that have encountered problems are those found to be unnecessarily restrictive. These FEW instances should NEVER be held up as the norm. Honestly, the vast majority of towns and cities bend over backwards to accomodate the political process.

    I highly doubt this would have been an issue with supporters of a more legitimate candidate ..... IMO, or course .....

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    Generally if you stand up for your rights, the municipality will back down. If not, the first amendment argument tends to work. Yes, there can be time, place, manner restrictions, but oftentimes even the "only x days before the election" type standards get smacked down.

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