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  1. #181

    Thumbs up Bradly PM me and give me an example if you want more

    Quote Originally Posted by freelance View Post
    PLEASE EDIT THIS PIECE WITH WHITE SPACE SO THAT PEOPLE WILL READ IT! There are some terrific ideas here.

    You reminded me that every campaign I've ever worked with had a "Democrats for Our Candidate" division with a recognized leader who helped galvanize those voters. Do we have "Democrats for Paul?" We also need Christians for Paul, etc. We need a way for people to identify with the campaign that might otherwise fall through the cracks. These are all volunteer positions and they are headed by a person recognizable to the target market. For example, NH probably would have been the state to have Independents for Paul.

    From another excellent post:



    You've illustrated NOUN, VERB, EXCLAMATION POINT AND "What's in it for me" in action. Simplify the message so that the listener understands the BENEFITS, not the features. Dr. Paul has preached features. No one cares about features. They want benefits.


    Bradly did a first pass. PM me if you want more on the white space



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  3. #182

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    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=86990

    The post that started that thread should be forwarded...very good constructive criticism.

  4. #183

    Default Grassroots coordinator and blog

    The campaign just sent out a note about a new grassroots coordinator and blog
    http://people.ronpaul2008.com/campaign-updates But when I tried to post a comment it wasn't allowed. They should enable the comments function so we can post the suggestions there that we are posting here.

  5. #184

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandinaviany3 View Post
    Bradly did a first pass. PM me if you want more on the white space
    No, I just wanted people to stop and read. I had a very hard time reading it without the white space, and I was afraid that others would just pass it by. It was filled with lots of little gems worthy of a close read.
    When all else fails,
    there's always
    www.escapeartist.com

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    Bring up the issues no-one wants to look at: Guanatanamo; Abu Ghraib; Birth Defects in Middle Eastern nuclear contaminated babies (show photos...this is what we do to our 'enemy' babies, not to mention compromising the DNA of our own troops)

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...+birth+defects
    Last edited by raiha; 01-11-2008 at 03:33 PM.
    The world does not consist of a throng of geniuses. WilliamBanzai7

  8. #187

    Thumbs up ok..thanks freelance

    Quote Originally Posted by freelance View Post
    No, I just wanted people to stop and read. I had a very hard time reading it without the white space, and I was afraid that others would just pass it by. It was filled with lots of little gems worthy of a close read.
    Ok thanks freelance...put some more stuff in now on the original

  9. #188

    Default Speach coaching

    Please, please, please,please...

    Slow down when answering questions in the debate. Complete sentences and stay focused on target subject. I've heard Jesse Benton say that Ron's message cannot be communicatd in 30 second sound bites. Well you better find a way, you only have 30 seconds!
    He must bring the hay down from the loft so the sheeple can understand. i.e.The average American does not have a clue what 'Austrian economics" means.
    It's been said and I agree, the true genuis is the one who can explain very complicated subjects in a very plain way. Ronald Reagan was great at this! This has to be done.

    Go Ron!

    Craig

  10. #189

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    Quote Originally Posted by scandinaviany3 View Post
    Ok thanks freelance...put some more stuff in now on the original
    MUCH better. I have a slight visual impairment, but white space also allows people with normal vision to read in "chunks" and comprehend the information easier.

    Yours is the post of the thread, and I certainly hope they listen.
    When all else fails,
    there's always
    www.escapeartist.com

  11. #190

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    Get on Howard Stern.

    Depending on audience, avoid using "Austrian economics" without a clear, layman's explanation of what that is.

    Surround yourself with a team of EXPERTS to help market and package your benefits effectively.

  12. #191

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl_S View Post
    On Monday, hire the best image consultants and speech coaches you can find. Spend $100K+ to have them travel with Paul for the next 4 weeks. Paul should practice daily with the coaching team to perfect his presentation and talking points.

    This has been suggested by many on RPF since early 2007.
    PLEASE consider this!

    Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world.
    Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has...


    John Stevens

  13. #192

    Default The One Suggestion Required to Implement All the Others

    Whatever else happens, my own suggestion would be that Dr. Paul immediately hire an impartial ombudsman--ideally someone who:
    • Has experience in Republican presidential campaigns;
    • Shares and can articulate Dr. Paul's philosophy in a way that makes it meaningful to the average American;
    • Understands the bewildering array of grassroots constitutencies supporting Dr. Paul; and
    • Who can command their respect.


    That person should be given full authority to implement swiftly the best constructive criticism received from the grassroots. Whatever managerial problems there are with the campaign, they must be addressed now--whatever that requires.

  14. #193

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    3) not hammering fascism enough

    4) not hammering the prison-industrial complex enough

    5) not talking about personal charity enough

    6) when you're excluded by a network from a debate early
    in the week, don't show up to their other debate later in the week.
    now people will remember 'how gracious fox was to let him in
    to that debate after all' (yes... i realize)

    six isn't that big of a deal, but it turned a win into a loss which is unfortunate.
    Dude, I'm rich! Check out this tin can! Uber wealth, ftw!

  15. #194

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiha View Post
    Bring up the issues no-one wants to look at: Guanatanamo; Abu Ghraib; Birth Defects in Middle Eastern nuclear contaminated babies (show photos...this is what we do to our 'enemy' babies, not to mention compromising the DNA of our own troops)

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...+birth+defects
    I'm not sure how I'm supposed to make a summary of the warm and fuzzy puppies and kissing babies posts and this one.
    My review of the For Liberty documentary:
    digg.com/d315eji
    (please Digg and post comments on the HuffPost site)

    "This political train-wreck Republicans face can largely be traced to Bush’s philosophical metamorphosis from a traditional, non-interventionist conservative to the neoconservatives’ exemplar of a 'War President', and his positioning of the Republicans as the 'War Party'."

    Nicholas Sanchez on Bush's legacy, September 30, 2007.

  16. #195

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevedasbach View Post
    To the extent that LP folks are involved in the campaign, it is generally at the grassroots level and/or state level staff.
    Point taken. You know I'm a fan of yours and have enjoyed your support and working with you.

    However, the fact remains, Joe Seehusen, Joe Becker, Mike McHugh, and Kent Snyder (not sure how many others) are four of the top people running the campaign and their experience and orientation are more towards the LP than Republican presidential primary politics.
    Last edited by Bradley in DC; 01-11-2008 at 04:56 PM.
    My review of the For Liberty documentary:
    digg.com/d315eji
    (please Digg and post comments on the HuffPost site)

    "This political train-wreck Republicans face can largely be traced to Bush’s philosophical metamorphosis from a traditional, non-interventionist conservative to the neoconservatives’ exemplar of a 'War President', and his positioning of the Republicans as the 'War Party'."

    Nicholas Sanchez on Bush's legacy, September 30, 2007.

  17. #196

    Default constructive help

    Ron Paul has a wonderful message of freedom and everyone needs to hear it, but I think that sometimes he gets so excited about getting the message out that he ends up talking past many people. At times, especially during debates Dr. Paul tends to speak a little too quickly, and he uses very intelligent references that most people are too uneducated to pick up on. Hell, I'm a pretty smart guy and there are some things that I don't get.

    my thoughts:

    1. speak at a normal rate and at a normal tone. I think at times Dr. Paul turns people off when his voice gets high pitched and he talks fast. His message is already pretty different than most people are used to hearing, so he needs to package it as well as he can.

    2. most people are stupid. when talking about the economy, don't talk about Austrian Economics. I think it may scare the morons.

    3. continuing on the "most people are stupid" theme - when talking about the war or Israel or some other topic that so desperately needs change, he should make simple points, maybe come up with some quick one-liners, and don't over-talk and confuse the simpletons.

    Ron Paul needs to be heard and understood by the masses, so he needs to speak on their level. Stupid people are intimidated by smart people, so even though everyone knows he is much smarter than they are, he should try to speak to them on simple terms.

    These are my thoughts on the subject, for what they're worth. And maybe Sean Hannity will be severly mangled in a one car cliff dive and forever wish he had been nicer to the one man who can help save America.

  18. #197

    Default Summary

    The original post is here: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=86990

    1. Recognize that Dr. Paul is running against George Bush first and that this must be overcome.

    2. Learn to make the message more succinct. The message is right, but it takes far too long to say it. A summary of Austrian economics is not necessary in every answer.

    3. BE SPECIFIC. How much does closing 700 military bases save? How can it help reduce the deficit?

    4. Supporters should not tie in their personal agenda to the campaign.

    5. The message must get out of the blogosphere.

    6. Changes at HQ.
    A. Hire an articulate African American lady to be the campaign spokesperson. Put Kent behind a wall.
    B, C, D. Communicate with the grassroots.
    E. Fire the campaign leadership.

    7. Fix the ads; no more crappy ones.

    8 and 9 are for supporters

    10. Walter E Williams for running mate and announce now.

  19. #198

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    [QUOTE=Bradley in DC;929032]Point taken.

    Personally, they don't have a clue. especially Jesse Benton he's totally the absolute worst idiot at best!!!
    Last edited by Henry; 01-11-2008 at 09:19 PM.

  20. #199

    Default Why not,

    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley in DC View Post
    I'm not sure how I'm supposed to make a summary of the warm and fuzzy puppies and kissing babies posts and this one.

    Tell it like it is. They are idiots!!

  21. #200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley in DC View Post
    Point taken. You know I'm a fan of yours and have enjoyed your support and working with you.

    However, the fact remains, Joe Seehusen, Joe Becker, Mike McHugh, and Kent Snyder (not sure how many others) are four of the top people running the campaign and their experience and orientation are more towards the LP than Republican presidential primary politics.
    He is running for Republican office and he has knowone runnning his campaign with ANY REPUBLICAN POLITICAL CAMPAIGN EXPERIENCE! wow.

    Another bit of advice:

    HIRE A MEGAEXPERIENCED REPUBLICAN POLITICAL ADVISOR!!!!!!

  22. #201

    Default Why not?

    Take this conversation to another level. Can we do anything about this, or not?

  23. #202

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    I need some canvassing material that targets issues that concern minorities and those living in poverty specifically. ASAP!!!!!

  24. #203

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    Some ideas:


    - Appoint a grassroots coordinator/liaison ( already done ) - Check

    - Review Official Campaign organization and expand/supplement/overhaul it to ensure to have a top notch org that actively engages with media and prospective voters

    - Have ads that are consistent with RP message, better quality and content

    - Improve coordination with grassroots, recruit talent from grassroots if needed

    - Be as aggressive as RP was in last debate, they respect you more when you fight back

    - Message of Change and Hope works, Fear message candidates are dropping out. Highlight message of change and hope

    - Constantly review grassroots created campaigning materials and put up quality, selected material ( print brochures, youtube vid ads etc) on some special server for all to access/download and print from a single point
    Last edited by Liberty Star; 01-11-2008 at 09:34 PM.

  25. #204

    Default John,

    Quote Originally Posted by JS4Pat View Post
    PLEASE consider this!
    I think this is overdue!! We are dealing with idiots, especially Benton!! A punk at best!!
    Last edited by Henry; 01-12-2008 at 09:06 AM.

  26. #205

    Default List of ads from the grassroots to use...

    Save our generation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOc7O9_Ux_8

    Ron Paul Ad - Something Big

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPjTAH8Y_L8

    Don't be that girl

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=PCSTHykU8dU

    Ron Paul For President TV Ad (Remix)

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=Med926aDBoc

    "Ron Paul Is"

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=h8mMTa79Uzc

    RON PAUL AD - "Awesome!"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_gKOCb4QBA

    For Liberty

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAFzsY_30Fw

    Ron Paul 2008: Just Come Home

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG4PPSFHVJw

    Dear Politicians

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqR7Udk1jQY (maybe)

    I Support Ron Paul TV Ad

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRLrl9eDUk8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGgUUtZ0G-0

    Once In A Lifetime

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hibEnvAQ4Y (maybe)

    Who is Ron Paul?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pyr_nqQtvs (maybe)

    Lighthouse

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfgzx8Tgg0E (maybe)

    Veterans for Ron Paul

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt_eHXZ8qbU

    Ron

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEfqrMvMEJo

    Ron Paul: The Forgotten Wounded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-h3fbu2vv8
    cut down to a minute or 30 seconds

    War ends, troops finally home, Thanks Dr. Ron ... commercial

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNZgeYnpPDU
    Something like this but better.

    Ron Paul 30 Sec Spot - American Liberty Coalition PAC

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLBI35aswAM

    Ron Paul ad animation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE77ooE5_Eo
    Needs better picture.

    RON PAUL: THE GREAT ESCAPE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq90G8OjXYI
    Cut down to 30 seconds or minute with the great ron paul blimp shot

    Livingston County, Michigan for Ron Paul (12/22)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_C2I0lKQ6g
    last minute or so looks good, can add content

    I want a President consistent

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHgRbvJuzUE
    cut down to 30 seconds

    In the beginning there was peace.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDx96SXR-6U
    1:50 mark and have a minute ad from there.

    Anything from this guy

    http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=jblackpost
    Last edited by angrydragon; 01-12-2008 at 02:54 AM.
    “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.” - Thomas Jefferson

  27. #206

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    Ron needs to start "speaking" to the people. Im just a Canadian but from here it seems that alot of what he says could and probably is going right over the average persons head, or just a tad too much for them to handle so they tune him out. He needs to spoon feed people, speak slower and break it down into something they can chew on. I know Ron is smart enough to know the best way to dumb it down just a bit so it makes sense to people. I know when it does finally make sense, something is triggered in the brain and then they will end up on this forum. The message is there, it has to be spoon fed.

    That reply at the SC debate, to the question on electability. Ron answered that question in kind of a "full circle" way. He lured you into listening, spoke slowly, it all made sense, and it showed the lunacy of it all.

    Borrow money from China, give it to Pakistan, which has a Dictator who we like, that took control of the democratic government, we get involved in wars, our soldiers die..... protecting democracy.... in Iraq.

    That was spoon fed perfectly.

  28. #207

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    Not sure if this was mentioned, but get a well-tailored suit. Dr. Paul, your jacket looks like it's too big for you, it puffs up too much.
    Last edited by angrydragon; 01-12-2008 at 01:27 PM.
    “I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.” - Thomas Jefferson

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    Thumbs up

    Thanks for the list of ads from the grassroots!
    My review of the For Liberty documentary:
    digg.com/d315eji
    (please Digg and post comments on the HuffPost site)

    "This political train-wreck Republicans face can largely be traced to Bush’s philosophical metamorphosis from a traditional, non-interventionist conservative to the neoconservatives’ exemplar of a 'War President', and his positioning of the Republicans as the 'War Party'."

    Nicholas Sanchez on Bush's legacy, September 30, 2007.

  31. #210

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    I don't think the grassroots ads are the answer - the campaign can make its own ads targeting the demographics that should being studied as we speak 24/7 by a competent experience republican strategist sitting alongside a guru advertising director and associated team of production and copy staff to fashion the new media strategy.

    (P.S. as someone else mentioned do voiceovers in the local dialect/accents - it's not like a voice over person is that hard to find or needs to agree with the message to do a voice over...)

    I think the biggest trends being expressed in this thread are
    1. Hire gurus - republican gurus - presidential gurus - and utilize the republican apparatus, the grassroots is inexperienced and too few in number and often off-putting to the blue-hair republicans who do actually vote, often ill-informed votes, but votes nonetheless.
    2. Communicate better - to the grassroots - to the media - and a create a polished simplified direct short to the point and 'this is what i will do for you' and 'i am the person to make this happen' manner - and do it with a new polished "I'm the president and damn do I look good doing it" attire, attitude, authority, and clarity.
    3. spend the money and get results - GET RESULTS!
    4. make materials available - there is absolutely no reason why things like slim jims are not available, hire a company like amazon or UPS to obtain production abilities and handle ordering, shipping, and logistics.

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