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    OK guys, here is the plain, simple TRUTH of the matter...

    Go to the main page of this forum. Look at the statistics of people "viewing" areas of the forum. Where are most of them? IN HERE! New Hampshire is over!

    Unless there is a difference of a few hundred votes between first and second place, and we were in second place, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. Stop investing time looking at numbers, doing youtube videos, etc. Put that time and energy into the next state!

    There's been voter fraud since the first election was held in the history of mankind. You can scream. You can yell. You can kick around and nothing will change.

    I can assure that even if we find about two thousand missing votes to beat Julie Annie, it will be ignored by the media. NOTHING WILL COME FROM IT.

    Move to the Michigan forum, and help them there. No matter where you are in the country, help them out!!!

    This ain't over! Do you realize Bill Clinton lost all state elections up until Georgia?? Losing NH is NOT A PROBLEM. Candidates will drop, but our good doctor will continue. As they drop, those delegates move around and vote for other candidates. In the end, it will be down to just two candidates and I'm sure Dr. Paul will be one of them.

    This is NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES. It's about delegates. It's a game of strategy. It's a game of chess. When candidates start dropping, some delegates will vote for us. We can convince the other remaining delegates. WE CAN WIN.

    MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    Go to the main page of this forum. Look at the statistics of people "viewing" areas of the forum. Where are most of them? IN HERE! New Hampshire is over!

    Unless there is a difference of a few hundred votes between first and second place, and we were in second place, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. Stop investing time looking at numbers, doing youtube videos, etc. Put that time and energy into the next state!

    There's been voter fraud since the first election was held in the history of mankind. You can scream. You can yell. You can kick around and nothing will change.

    I can assure that even if we find about two thousand missing votes to beat Julie Annie, it will be ignored by the media. NOTHING WILL COME FROM IT.

    Move to the Michigan forum, and help them there. No matter where you are in the country, help them out!!!

    This ain't over! Do you realize Bill Clinton lost all state elections up until Georgia?? Losing NH is NOT A PROBLEM. Candidates will drop, but our good doctor will continue. As they drop, those delegates move around and vote for other candidates. In the end, it will be down to just two candidates and I'm sure Dr. Paul will be one of them.

    This is NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES. It's about delegates. It's a game of strategy. It's a game of chess. When candidates start dropping, some delegates will vote for us. We can convince the other remaining delegates. WE CAN WIN.

    MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!!!!!
    It's not about the numbers -- it's about the fraud.

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    This is not about strategy. It's about doing the right thing. Why don't you go work on Michigan instead of trying to control other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liberty_Forever View Post
    This is not about strategy. It's about doing the right thing. Why don't you go work on Michigan instead of trying to control other people.
    No. Screaming fraud and putting people to search for it is controlling. And I AM HELPING in Michigan. I'm helping finance ads over there.
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    Yes guys, there is fraud. And there was probably fraud in Iowa. And in Wyoming (specially Wyoming). Whoever commits the fraud is not just against us. Some people will commit fraud against us. Others will commit fraud against McCain. Others against Romney. There is fraud against everyone. It balances itself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    Yes guys, there is fraud. And there was probably fraud in Iowa. And in Wyoming (specially Wyoming). Whoever commits the fraud is not just against us. Some people will commit fraud against us. Others will commit fraud against McCain. Others against Romney. There is fraud against everyone. It balances itself out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    Go to the main page of this forum. Look at the statistics of people "viewing" areas of the forum. Where are most of them? IN HERE! New Hampshire is over!

    Unless there is a difference of a few hundred votes between first and second place, and we were in second place, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. Stop investing time looking at numbers, doing youtube videos, etc. Put that time and energy into the next state!

    There's been voter fraud since the first election was held in the history of mankind. You can scream. You can yell. You can kick around and nothing will change.

    I can assure that even if we find about two thousand missing votes to beat Julie Annie, it will be ignored by the media. NOTHING WILL COME FROM IT.

    Move to the Michigan forum, and help them there. No matter where you are in the country, help them out!!!

    This ain't over! Do you realize Bill Clinton lost all state elections up until Georgia?? Losing NH is NOT A PROBLEM. Candidates will drop, but our good doctor will continue. As they drop, those delegates move around and vote for other candidates. In the end, it will be down to just two candidates and I'm sure Dr. Paul will be one of them.

    This is NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES. It's about delegates. It's a game of strategy. It's a game of chess. When candidates start dropping, some delegates will vote for us. We can convince the other remaining delegates. WE CAN WIN.

    MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!!!!!
    The fat lady has not sung...NH hasn't certified election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    Go to the main page of this forum. Look at the statistics of people "viewing" areas of the forum. Where are most of them? IN HERE! New Hampshire is over!

    Unless there is a difference of a few hundred votes between first and second place, and we were in second place, STOP WASTING YOUR TIME. Stop investing time looking at numbers, doing youtube videos, etc. Put that time and energy into the next state!

    There's been voter fraud since the first election was held in the history of mankind. You can scream. You can yell. You can kick around and nothing will change.

    I can assure that even if we find about two thousand missing votes to beat Julie Annie, it will be ignored by the media. NOTHING WILL COME FROM IT.

    Move to the Michigan forum, and help them there. No matter where you are in the country, help them out!!!

    This ain't over! Do you realize Bill Clinton lost all state elections up until Georgia?? Losing NH is NOT A PROBLEM. Candidates will drop, but our good doctor will continue. As they drop, those delegates move around and vote for other candidates. In the end, it will be down to just two candidates and I'm sure Dr. Paul will be one of them.

    This is NOT ABOUT THE NUMBER OF VOTES. It's about delegates. It's a game of strategy. It's a game of chess. When candidates start dropping, some delegates will vote for us. We can convince the other remaining delegates. WE CAN WIN.

    MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!!!!!
    What... move on to the next state so they can steal votes there as well? That's no only bull$#@!, that's stupid bull$#@!. We might as well just quit and stay at home! ...or, we can do EVERYTHING possible to expose vote fraud which will boost RP's sympathy support, find and PROSECUTE those responsible, etc., etc. Simply rolling over and getting screwed is NOT an acceptable nor intelligent course of action.
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    plus one trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by USAF Vet Dan View Post
    ...or, we can do EVERYTHING possible to expose vote fraud which will boost RP's sympathy support, find and PROSECUTE those responsible, etc., etc. Simply rolling over and getting screwed is NOT an acceptable nor intelligent course of action.
    +1,000,000,000,000

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    It will balance itself out? You have to be kidding.

    The fraud is rampant and two wrongs do not make a right. There is no "balancing it out."

    The fraud needs to be exposed if it will ever be prevented.
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    There was fraud, granny warriors are getting ready for re-count, I say we go for it. We don't need ron's permission for a recount, grassroots can do it on their own.


    http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount-


    It's not that expensive, it will send a message to other states that people aren't going to tolerate vote fraud any more.

  14. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by jd603 View Post
    There was fraud, granny warriors are getting ready for re-count, I say we go for it. We don't need ron's permission for a recount, grassroots can do it on their own.


    http://grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount-


    It's not that expensive, it will send a message to other states that people aren't going to tolerate vote fraud any more.

    +100!

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    OK, after my rant over at another forum I'm a bit calmer now to think more clearly.

    There's so much divisiveness over NH. We CANNOT allow it to tear apart the entire movement. This bickering will not get us anywhere. So maybe we should just all respect one another's opinions. Those of us who want to fight the fraud should be allowed to do so, while those who disagree, can simply disagree and move onto something else. It seems like the only reasonable thing to do.

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    This is a Big tent, I expect bickering and yes it doesn't get us anywhere.

    When anyone asks me I say
    "we got a big tent"

    What about the 911 truthers?

    we got big tent!!!

    What bout those other fringe gorups?

    We got a big tent......

    that's to be expected, now all we have to do is fill that tent with voters......

    the biggest thing about this is, I'm not just for my freedom, but I don't mind supporting yours either. It's easy to be for my freedom, it takes some wide arms to embrace everyones freedom. Bickering is a by product of liberty.
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    Thumbs up

    Quote Originally Posted by PC_for_Paul View Post
    This is a Big tent, I expect bickering and yes it doesn't get us anywhere.

    When anyone asks me I say
    "we got a big tent"

    What about the 911 truthers?

    we got big tent!!!

    What bout those other fringe gorups?

    We got a big tent......

    that's to be expected, now all we have to do is fill that tent with voters......

    the biggest thing about this is, I'm not just for my freedom, but I don't mind supporting yours either. It's easy to be for my freedom, it takes some wide arms to embrace everyones freedom. Bickering is a by product of liberty.
    Love that - "Bickering is a by product of liberty."
    FINALLY.... a voice of reason in the midst of chaos. EXCELLENT!

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    Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    Yes guys, there is fraud. And there was probably fraud in Iowa. And in Wyoming (specially Wyoming). Whoever commits the fraud is not just against us. Some people will commit fraud against us. Others will commit fraud against McCain. Others against Romney. There is fraud against everyone. [Fraud] balances itself out.
    OMG! I have rebuilt a whole new repertoire of cocktail party fodder on here the past two days, but this one takes the blue ribbon. Now come clean up my monitor! I just spit a whole mouthful of iced tea on it.
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    a couple of vote deferred here and there per pricinct adds up to a $#@!load. that is what they do to keep it hush hush.

    any fraud is unacceptable.

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    What the hell are we busting our a**es and pocketbooks for if there's Voter Fraud and Ron Paul can't win. If we're aware of the fraud, but choose to ignore it, we're guilty of assessory to the crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lvp1138 View Post
    MOVE ALONG. NOTHING TO SEE HERE!!!!!!!!!!
    I've had it with these useless threads! Get out of this subforum if you think the best way to deal with fraud is to ignore it.


    Kucinich is filing for a Democrat recount: http://www.dennis4president.com/go/h...ion-integrity/

    Albert Howard said he will file for the Republican one: http://www.dailypaul.com/node/24235


    Both these guys are heros in my book. Let the people make their own choices on what they're most passionate about working on. You don't see me posting in other forums to come over here, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy87 View Post
    To be fair, he didn't come in 5-5 either. If you're looking for a 1992 Clinton in the 2008 Republicans, it's Romney.

    Another unsupportive comment from you

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