Astrology: Charting the Rise of Ron Paul

[Ariondys]

COURTEOUS READER
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, had in high Esteem of old, by the Wise and Great. Formerly no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight a Battle, in short no important Affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer, who examined the Aspects and Configurations of the heavenly Bodies, and mark'd the lucky Hour. Now the noble Art (more Shame to the Age we live in!) is dwindled into Contempt; the Great neglect us, Empires make Leagues, and Parliaments Laws, without advising us; and scarce any other Use is made of our learned Labours, than to find the best Time of cutting Corns, or gelding Pigs,--This Mischief we owe in a geat Measure to ourselves: The ignorant Herd of Mankind, had they not been encourag'd to it by some of us, would never have dared to depreciate our sacred Dictates; but Urania has been betray'd by her own Sons; those whom she had favour'd with the greatest skill in her divine Art, the most eminent Astronomers among the Moderns, the Newtons, Halleys and Whistons, have wantonly contemn'd and abus'd her, contrary to the Light of their own Consciences. - Benjamin Franklin (1751)

[MikefromSyracuse]

Ariondys,

Here's the source regarding the 'first date' of Ron and Carolyn.

http://marriage.about.com/od/politics/p/ronpaul.htm

It was either Friday 29 Feb 1952 or Saturday 1 March 1952 -- a 'Sadie Hawkins-type' party on (or about) Carolyn's 16th birthday (born 29 Feb 1936).

The 7:35 time places Saturn in 7th house -- he got married at a young age (21) which this placement would contradict -- maybe that's why Granny Miller pushed the time up approx 10 minutes -- Saturn in 6th may also validate his knee injury that ended his track career.
(knee injury according to Conservative Liberty Alliance website)

Welcome ryan -- I see you have progressive interests ie qi gong and quantum theory -- metaphysics and physics are some interests of mine too -- Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System Theory is one that you might find of interest -- but can talk about this later if interested -- time to focus on RP's chart.

Welcome to all open-minded RP supporters.

My thought is that we are in a "100th Monkey" moment, a critical mass -- and RP has talked about and recognizes that there is this tipping point of approx 15% (nationally) of passionate and dedicated supporters that will grow quickly to 50+% as he and we stay focused and on message. The theory is that the quality and intensity of the smaller group dynamic can affect the larger group.

RP was in synch with the dynamic 'election chart' of his presidential announcement on 13 March 2011 saying that "my success is that I always win" -- check the youtube video of "I always win" -- it's one of the best videos I've seen and a great anthem.

[Ariondys]

A Saturn in the 7th doesn't contradict.
It adds enduring qualities which are helpful to lasting relationships. These people are reluctant to assume the responsibilities of marriage until they or their prospective mates are firmly established.

[Ariondys]

The hidden dimension in astrology often overlooked, is the declinations. They are known as parallel when 2 planets have the same declination. Ron Paul does in fact have a noteworthy and most appropriate(for a libertarian) declination aspect. His Sun at 12n45 and Uranus at 12n52 are parallel. Mars and Jupiter may also be a wide parallel

http://issuu.com/considerations/docs/07-1#download
article on Declinations starts on page 9 with the Sun-Uranus on page 14


I found this strange "method" for determining USA election winners as well, :O while searching for the Makransky declination article.
article on pages 47-67 on Election Winners specifically for the USA
I have to put a warning on this material if you are not already familiar with astrology. This is the 1st I've seen it and caught my interest for obvious reasons.

[Ariondys]

The Identifying Elections was written in 1991, it's just a construct of pseudo-astrology and statistics that immediately goes on to fail predicting. Though I wonder what patterns might immerge from a similiar study wherein 1000s of sample can be taken.

[Ariondys]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_caucuses
The 2012 Iowa caucuses will take place on Tuesday, January 3, at 7 p.m. CT.

The Iowa caucuses are noteworthy for the amount of media attention they receive during U.S. presidential election years. Since 1972, the Iowa caucuses have been the first major electoral event of the nominating process for President of the United States. Although only about one percent of the nation's delegates are chosen by the Iowa State Convention, the Iowa caucuses have served as an early indication of which candidates for president might win the nomination of their political party at that party's national convention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Re...caucuses,_2012
The 2012 Iowa Republican caucuses are scheduled to take place on January 3, 2012. The Iowa Republican caucuses are an unofficial primary, with the delegates to the state convention selected proportionally via a straw poll. The Iowa caucuses mark the traditional formal start of the delegate selection process for the 2012 United States presidential election. There are 28 delegates at stake that will be assigned proportionally.

An astrologer looking closely at Ron Paul is going to see a lot of activity in his chart. The inevitable conclusion is obvious.

Transit Pluto trining Ascendant, Pluto trining Uranus.
- long term effects due to Pluto's slow apparent motion
Transit Pluto forming Grand Trine with Uranus, Ascendant

Transit Pluto opposite midpoint of Uranus and Ascendant
- Developments in being the cause of other people's excitement

Pluto trine Ascendant: An agent of change. An increase in personal power. It is important to use this power for the good of all. Increased capacity for self expression. Changes in relationships leading out of stagnation. (i'm sure Paul is weary of hanging out in Washington the way he has)

7:35:20 -Transit Moon in 9th house forms on the Grand Trine and enters 9th
early in the day and spends the day in the 9th house. By 8pm CST Moon conjunct Kronos.
Jupiter stations Dec 25/26 and is sitting flush with the placidus 9th house cusp from Dec 17 2011
when it's apparently velocity drops to about 10% of the year's later maximum apparent velocity
until Jan 2 2012. Note 10% is an arbitrary number to give for a stationing planet.

Jupiter conjuncts 9th house (placidus) cusp.
Success success! The start of yet another wave of Jupiter transiting Ron Paul's 9th house. This is when he is on the move, 1976, 1988, 2012. Idk what exactly was going on around 2000. Something important was going on though, you can see it in his progressions. Jupiter in the 9th is opportunities for travel and teaching. Success at promoting and publishing comes here.

Transit Mars/Jupiter midpoint semisquares Sun (0-55' applying)
Transit midpoint Mars/Jupiter(8n28) parallel Ascendant
Transit Saturn contraparallel Ascendant
Saturn=Mars/Jupiter : The ripe fruit, birth.

Transit Sun opposite Moon/Ascendant midpoint
to be brought before the public


Progressions
Progressions are long term effects

progressed Sun conjunct Mars, applying
He's on fire. The boost of energy of a lifetime.

Progressed Sun parallel Jupiter, applying
The culminating success of a lifetime.

progressed Mars trine Uranus, applying: exact in 3 months
very positive kind of liberation of engergies, the courage to do things

progressed Mars trine Ascendant: all term. assertive president.

progressed Saturn square Midheaven - this aspect has been active for a very long time.
1 degree orb for his entire political career. Since 1976.

Ariondys

[Revolution9]

Ron takes first.

Rev9

[Ariondys]

Ron Paul Questions Alan Greenspan 2-17-2000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2AqGQirW1Y

Feb 17 2000
Jupiter(0tau30) conjuncted 9th house

Jan 3 2012
Jupiter(0tau30)

Yes, you're looking at 1 full orbit of Jupiter to the day. Then and now.

A defining moment in his 2000, I suppose, considering it's been preserved on reposted on youtube

[MikefromSyracuse]

A Saturn in the 7th doesn't contradict.
It adds enduring qualities which are helpful to lasting relationships. These people are reluctant to assume the responsibilities of marriage until they or their prospective mates are firmly established.

You have done much more due diligence and rectification work than I and I applaud your effort.
I am just taking a position that would justify why Granny Miller would decide on 7:45. She may have rectified 7:35 with some variance.

The enduring quality of 54 years marriage is of course not refuted and I ask would that still be consistent with 6th house Saturn within 2 degrees of the Descendent?

I would assume so and Ron and Carolyn's close working relationship -- she worked in his medical practice and publishing business, they together created a cookbook during his congressional terms and now today for president -- would also be consistent with the 6th/7th cusp.

The 'firmly established' aspect is what I question due this excerpt from the about.com link:

During Ron's senior year, he and Carol were married on February 1, 1957 in Pittsburg, Pennsylvania at Dormont Presbyterian Church.

Ron is not yet firmly established but perhaps Carolyn may well be established at 20 years old but that is quite rare. The early marriage appears consistent by Ron's 1st house Venus/Neptune and Neptune chart rulership and Venus natural rulership of the 7th house.

Saturn in 6th house is consistent with a knee injury and of his stating that the injury sidetracked his sports ambitions and increased his focus on his studies and future medical practice. I don't know how long he has needed a hearing aid -- he did wear one in 2007 during debates -- but according to some sources Saturn is significator of ears and their functioning. Would not 6th House Saturn regarding certain health issues (of ear in this case) be more consistent than 7th house?

Declinations are considerations that I think are interesting but would like to know the research done on various scenarios ie 2 planets in close longitude conjunction but declination contra-parallel and 2 planets in exact longitude opposition but declination parallel.

Rev9

I followed, as you probably did, the 2008 Obama vs Clinton primary, and to me there are some parallels of that 2008 primary compared to what the 2012 Paul vs Romney primary will be except we're not the corporate media darling. My take is that we'll do something unprecedented that will be consistent with the revolutionary movements that took place in 2011 (young people, the power of the internet, etc) and that will intensify in 2012. Just google uranus square pluto to get a sense of what I mean and it will also be discussed here as we continue this thread.

From watching the Sunday am shows (where RP looked strong in interviews and schooled 'Tapper Jake') and all the BS about CNN poll propaganda and with Rand and Ron touring tomorrow I'm still expecting a win of 33-40%.

[Ariondys]

Declinations are considerations that I think are interesting but would like to know the research done on various scenarios ie 2 planets in close longitude conjunction but declination contra-parallel and 2 planets in exact longitude opposition but declination parallel.

A point on the eclliptic plane with a 0 ecliptic latitude is automatically contraparallel when opposite. It would only be likely to happen under certain circumstances. Or with planets whose orbit are highly inclined.