Astrology: Charting the Rise of Ron Paul

[Ariondys]

this morning transit Sun conjuncts Rand's Uranus. (~10am EDT)
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http://www.dailypaul.com/251540/ron-...floor-at-145pm
Ron Paul is expected to join his delegates on the floor of the convention at 1:45pm
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transit Midheaven conjunct Ron Paul Ascendant(1:43pm)
Tampa(27n56 33, 82w27 06)

[acptulsa]

this morning transit Sun conjuncts Rand's Uranus. (~10am EDT)

Ouch! Better send him a whole lot of aloe vera...

[MikefromSyracuse]

IMHO the transits and progressions made to Romney's personal chart do suggest a 'perfect storm' scenario for any of the 3 days of the convention but specifically for Aug 27 when transit Moon goes opposite transit Venus at around 8pm. (also makes T-square to transit Rhadamanthus)

Hey, if the injunction to unbind takes place then all hell breaks loose for Romney and that's what I see taking place with his chart.

No injunction of course -- seemed liked some self-undoing and self-sabotaging behavior on Gilbert's part when his 2nd amended complaint was no better then the initial complaint. (as far as I can tell from having read them recently).

A poster who attended the hearing on Aug 6 and who tried to help states this:

Incidentally, yesterday I made a comment on that video that I would prefer if Gilbert dropped the appellate case since he totally screwed up the lower court case. The comment was deleted. I was in the court room and the judge was initially clearly on our side and told Gilbert with no uncertain terms how to refile, that is with FACTS.

Gilbert ignored the judge and all of us that tried to give him the facts, including an attorney he knows well.

I also suspect that the 120 affidavits he received from the plaintiffs (including mine) were NOT included in his submittal to the court. I worked a lot on mine, got it notarized and sent it to him Fed Ex as well as a scanned PDF e-mail to make absolutely sure he got it and would not have to print it. It think he never read it and just trashed it.

I also gave him another copy in court, in case he needed to refer to it. He seemed like he knew nothing about it.

Because of his big ego, he ignored everybody and now we have high risk of losing the appellate case, which will be precedent setting.

I've clearly had it with that guy.

BTW, Gilbert's birthdate is 5/31/1951 and grew up in Brooklyn -- no idea if born there.

The Team Liberty chart with afflicted Pisces Moon (square Gemini Sun -- and Gilbert is also Gemini Sun in his own chart) was indicative of self-undoing behavior and it proved to be more dominant over the positive patterns. It's too bad, there was so much potential for a good outcome.

I make no excuses for a wrong prediction but human affairs are archetypal and not directly deterministic and there are always free will-based probability/possibility factors involved with the predictive techniques used and, of course, the bias and skill of the one doing the interpretation. I am on the level of being naturally biased and an unskilled student of predictive astrology techniques -- esp these Hellenistic techniques.

As far as Aug 27, a thread is up about a Romney/Ben Swann interview which supposedly exposed some things and, as Ariondys indicates, there are some timely patterns for RP's surprise appearance at the RNC at 1:43 pm today.

So, in Romney's chart some hell can still break loose and the 'transformational catalyst' pattern of the Uranus/Pluto square, which is intensifying towards another exact square on Sept 18, is a factor.

There's more to the story but that's part of it.

Update:

Part of the Ben Swann interview published Aug 27 that is construed incriminating to Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg

RP appeared on the floor of the RNC at approx 1:34 pm according to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwgz2...layer_embedded

[Natural Citizen]

Meh. Nevermind. Post was irrelevant to the thread.

[Ariondys]

http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/04/ro...-gary-johnson/
After losing his bid for the Republican nomination in 2008, Paul initially issued an open endorsement of third party candidates, but as the election approached he endorsed Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin. In 1988 Paul was the Libertarian Party’s presidential candidate.

On Tuesday evening Paul will appear on Jay Leno’s “Tonight Show,” where he will likely be pressed on the November election.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...uesday%92s-Ton

http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/09/ron-p...ed-aug-2-2012/


transit Pallas-Uranus conjoin(tonight) on RP's solar arc Node opposite natal Sun/Jupiter midpoint

[Ariondys]

transit Saturn square Paul's Pluto today. (exact about 1/2 hour ago)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1880172.html

At least three Republican electors say they may not support their party's presidential ticket when the Electoral College meets in December to formally elect the next president, escalating tensions within the GOP and adding a fresh layer of intrigue to the final weeks of the White House race.

The electors – all supporters of former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul – told The Associated Press they are exploring options should Mitt Romney win their states. They expressed frustration at how Republican leaders have worked to suppress Paul's conservative movement and his legion of loyal supporters.

"They've never given Ron Paul a fair shot, and I'm disgusted with that. I'd like to show them how disgusted I am," said Melinda Wadsley, an Iowa mother of three who was selected as a Republican elector earlier this year. She said Paul is the better choice and noted that the Electoral College was founded with the idea that electors wouldn't just mimic the popular vote.

The defection of multiple electors would be unprecedented in the last 116 years of U.S. politics. It also would raise the remote possibility that the country could even end up with a president and vice president from different parties.

If Romney prevailed in an extremely close presidential election, for example, defections could deprive him of the Electoral College majority needed to secure the presidency. That would throw the presidential election to the U.S. House for the first time in nearly two centuries. The Senate would elect the vice president if neither running mate got a majority of the electoral votes. If Republicans retained control of the House, and with the each state delegation getting a single vote, Romney probably would prevail. But if the Senate remained in Democratic hands, Vice President Joe Biden would be the favorite.

Because so-called faithless electors are rare, the position of elector is largely viewed as symbolic. Each party chooses people to serve as electors in the 50 states, and electors from the winning party convene in each state capital in December to officially select the president and vice president.

As Paul supporters fought for more prestigious delegate slots during state-level conventions this year, they also quietly accrued electors – some in Democratic states likely to be won by President Barack Obama, but also in a handful in states that Romney could take.

In Nevada, for example, Paul's forces seized control of the state convention and won a majority of delegates. They also placed four Paul supporters among the state's six electors.

The electors said they have had no organized discussion over how to cast their electoral votes and there have been no efforts by the campaigns to get them to vote for either Paul or Romney.


Nevada's electors are approaching their duties in different ways.

Jesse Law, an elector and Paul supporter, said he may have qualms with Romney but has always intended to cast his electoral vote for the party nominee.

"I just want to beat Obama," Law said.

But Ken Eastman may not cast his Nevada electoral vote for Romney, if the former Massachusetts governor wins the state. Eastman said he wants to explore options with Republican leaders in Clark County, a group now dominated by Paul supporters.

"I'm undecided at this point," Eastman said, adding that he's "pretty disgusted" with the national Republican Party and how it has worked to suppress Paul's grassroots movement. He said the GOP has not been open to an influx of people with different ideas.

In Texas, elector Billie Zimmerman said she sees Paul as the only candidate able to save the country. She considers Romney and running mate Paul Ryan to be just another couple of Republicans who will disappoint her, and she called the GOP convention a "shocking display of deception and treachery and cheating."

Zimmerman said she hasn't decided how she'll cast her electoral vote.

Along with the three electors looking at alternatives, Nevada GOP elector Ken Searles said he may vote for Paul as a protest, so long as his vote wouldn't change the outcome of the election. Another elector, Kathleen Miller in Alaska, said she is planning to vote for Romney but left open the possibility of a Paul vote if the outcome of the election was certain and Republican leaders continued what she called "shenanigans."

About half the states, including Nevada, have laws requiring electors to follow the popular vote. Nevada's statute carries no punishment, and it's unclear how it would be enforced. Election officials said they may turn to the courts to enforce the law if an elector strayed.

Tensions between the Republican Party and Paul supporters have been escalating for much of the year. At the Republican National Convention last month, Paul supporters booed as the party adopted new rules to make it more difficult for similar insurgent campaigns to gain traction in the future.

Paul has not endorsed Romney. His did not respond to requests for comment on the possible defection of GOP electors.

The Romney campaign sidestepped questions about the electors, with political director Rich Beeson saying Republicans "are united to defeat President Obama to get our economy back on track and Americans working again."

Often chosen during the convention process, electors are designated by each party to cast votes if their presidential candidate wins the state. A presidential candidate needs 270 of the 538 electoral votes to win.

The last time the House determined the presidential outcome was in 1825, when it selected John Quincy Adams after none of the four candidates won a majority of the electoral votes.

There have been a handful of faithless electors in recent years. In 2004, one Minnesota elector voted for John Edwards for president instead of his top-of-the-ticket running mate John Kerry. Many observers assumed that was simply a mistake. The Minnesota vote was done secretly, and no one ever claimed responsibility.

A District of Columbia elector abstained in 2000 to protest the lack of congressional representation for the district.

The last time multiple electors defected was in 1896, when William Jennings Bryan was the presidential candidate of both the Democratic Party and the People's Party, with both parties choosing different vice presidential picks. Twenty-seven electors in that race chose the People's Party ticket, even though it didn't win the popular vote.

[Ariondys]

Astrology
Gary Johnson rectified

In case you would like to know who he is. Astrology is a kind of extra sense for knowing who someone is. A sense I would prefer not to be without.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnTN00lAp9M
http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryj...ure=relchannel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson#Personal_life

Johnson was married to Dee Johnson née Simms (1952–2006) from 1977 to 2005.[92] As First Lady, she engaged in campaigns against smoking and breast cancer,[93] and oversaw the enlargement of the Governor's Mansion. He initiated a separation in May 2005, and announced they were getting divorced four months later.[94] Dee Johnson died unexpectedly on December 22, 2006, at the age of 54.[95] It was established in February 2007 that her death was caused by hypertensive heart disease.[96] Syndicated columnist John Dendahl expressed shock upon her death, as she had been "very vivacious" only two weeks previously. After her death, Johnson said, "People couldn't have gotten a better number one volunteer, because that's what she was. Whatever [the issue] was, she had a caring approach."[95] Johnson and his late wife have two grown children:[92] a daughter, Seah (born 1979), and a son, Erik (born 1982).[97]
Johnson is now engaged to Santa Fe real estate agent Kate Prusack, whom he began dating in 2008 after meeting on a bike ride. Johnson proposed in 2009 on the chair lift at Taos Ski Valley Resort in New Mexico.[98] He lives with Prusack in Taos, New Mexico,[99][100] in a home that he built himself.[53] Johnson is an avid triathlete who bikes extensively and abstains from all recreational drug use, caffeine, alcohol, and some sugar products. During his term in office, he competed in several triathlons, marathons and bike races. He competed three times (1993, 1997, 1999) as celebrity invitee at the Ironman World Championship in Hawaii, registering his best time for the 2.4-mile (3.9 km) swim, 112-mile (180 km) bike ride, and 26.2-mile (42.2 km) marathon run in 1999 with 10 hours, 39 minutes and 16 seconds.[101][102] He once ran 100 miles (160 km) in 30 consecutive hours in the Rocky Mountains.[16] On May 30, 2003, he reached the summit of Mount Everest[11] "despite toes blackened with frostbite."[25] He has also climbed three more of the Seven Summits: Mount Elbrus, Mount McKinley, and Mount Kilimanjaro—the tallest peaks in Europe, North America, and Africa respectively. He ran in the 25-mile Bataan Memorial Death March in New Mexico, in which participants run in the desert in combat boots while wearing 35-pound packs.[103] On October 12, 2005, Johnson was involved in a near fatal paragliding accident when his wing got caught in a tree and he fell approximately 50 feet to the ground. Johnson suffered multiple bone fractures, including a burst fracture to his T12 vertebrae, a broken rib, and a broken knee.[104] He used medicinal marijuana for pain control from 2005 to 2008.[105]

Jan 1, 1953 time unknown
rectified as 7:10am CST
Minot, North Dakota -- 48°13′59″N 101°17′32″W

co-rising with Al'tair - bold and independent, brave, daredevil energy, loves a challenge
co-culminating with Diadem - working for the benefit of a group, symbol of a crown not seeking recognition/fame, devoted to a cause

1977solarreturn: Cupido(2sc26) Rising(2sc21)
Johnson married 1977

transit Pluto conjunct MC
1979 became a Dad
Johnson and his late wife have two grown children:[92] a daughter, Seah (born 1979), and a son, Erik (born 1982).[97]

2003solarreturn: Kronos/Admetos(10ge24) = MC(11sg06)
On May 30, 2003, he reached the summit of Mount Everest

solararc Saturn(19sg25) conjunct Ascendant(19sg34)
He initiated a separation in May 2005, and announced they were getting divorced four months later.

2005solarreturn: Mars(4sg28)=Uranus(3pi55)=MC(4ge37)
transitSun(19li33)=solar return configuration
solararcSun(4pi25)=solar return configuration
solararcPluto(16li30) = radixMars(1pi16)/Uranus(16ca44)
On October 12, 2005, Johnson was involved in a near fatal paragliding accident when his wing got caught in a tree and he fell approximately 50 feet to the ground.

solararcMars(26ar03) = radixMoon(25ca54)/Saturn(26li16)
wife died on December 22, 2006

1995solarreturn: (AR/KR)(27ge07)=MC(26sg22)
Johnson served as the 29th Governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003

[mudra]

It's a pleasure to encounter some serious astrologers in the libertarian community. I have a theory that it is possible to ascertain libertarianism, and lesser political ideologies, on an astrological natal chart by examining the placement of Pallas (after all, RP, Lew Rockwell, G Edward Griffin, Etienne de la Boetie, and Frederic Bastiat all have Sun conjunct Pallas). Pallas, in my research, displays a pretty much total correlation with the non-aggression axiom when interpreted carefully.

My web site supports my theory with approximately 400 examples of famous persons from across the political spectrum, under the search term "Political Ideology in Astrology".

[ronpaulgirl]

For a long time. I totally agree with last commenter. Glad to have on here.

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[Ariondys]

It's a pleasure to encounter some serious astrologers in the libertarian community. I have a theory that it is possible to ascertain libertarianism, and lesser political ideologies, on an astrological natal chart by examining the placement of Pallas (after all, RP, Lew Rockwell, G Edward Griffin, Etienne de la Boetie, and Frederic Bastiat all have Sun conjunct Pallas). Pallas, in my research, displays a pretty much total correlation with the non-aggression axiom when interpreted carefully.

My web site supports my theory with approximately 400 examples of famous persons from across the political spectrum, under the search term "Political Ideology in Astrology".

There's a link to your web site about 15 messages back, I had a good look at it. I actually began this project with my progressed Sun conjunct Pallas.

So Romney picked a VP since I visited. I can see they have the same unpleasant political label: right wing authoritarian. And are thus actually different from the left wing authoritarian: a category shared by both Biden and Obama.

And Gary Johnson rated Libertarian. Johnson's VP pick, Judge Jim Gray is not listed. A project for you to figure out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Gray -- (born February 14, 1945)

oh, and I think I wanted to offer the suggestion to include parallels in your research because I'm not going to get graded as a libertarian without connecting my Sun to Pallas via parallels(Sun parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pallas). I have some recollection of this, but I can't be sure if I actually did or not.