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Thread: Astrology: Charting the Rise of Ron Paul

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    omg, is that Ron's 2nd bill to be passed?

    http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2012/...-the-fed-bill/
    House Passes Ron Paul’s ‘Audit the Fed’ Bill

    On Wednesday, the House on a 327-98 vote, passed a bill that would permit the government to review the policy deliberations that are at the heart of the central bank’s mission.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,1784208.story
    House overwhelmingly approves Ron Paul bill to audit the Fed

    “Ron Paul is part of a long tradition of challenging the central bank’s right to exist,” said Sylla, pointing to Fed reform efforts following after the Great Depression. “I’m suggesting there is more to the Paul bill than just Congress’ legitimate need to know what the Fed is doing.”

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...T9W_story.html
    House passes Ron Paul-backed bill giving Congress greater scrutiny over Federal Reserve

    “I know when people talk about independence and having this privacy of the central bank, it means they want secrecy, and secrecy is not good,” Paul said.
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...VJP_story.html
    Ron Paul’s House record marked by bold strokes, and futility, (Published: December 26, 2011)

    The passage of H.R. 2121, in fall 2009, unfolded without drama. It allowed for the sale of a customhouse in Galveston, Tex. The House debate took two minutes, and the vote took eight seconds. The ayes had it.

    But something historic was happening. On his 482nd try, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) had authored a bill that would become law.

    Of the 620 measures that Paul has sponsored, just four have made it to a vote on the House floor. Only that one has been signed into law.

    During Paul’s years in office, only 4 percent of the more than 69,000 bills filed by House members have become law.

    But Paul’s record stands out for its futility. His lifetime success rate: about 0.2 percent.

    “This is an indication of Ron’s strength of leadership. He has had the courage to stand alone and to fight for principle, ignoring the pressure to sell out,” Jesse Benton, Paul’s campaign chairman, said in a written statement. Benton said these failures were not proof that Paul, as president, would struggle to get his ideas passed through Congress.


    I can see solar arc Kronos(red tape, officials) conjunct Ron Paul's Pluto in the fall of 2009. With that Pluto in his 11th house(groups,friends, congress in mundane astrology) This Pluto(power of creation) is currently being slowly transiting by Vulkanus, adding influence. As a slowly advancing wave, Vulkanus 1st comes within 1 degree of Pluto around the fall of 2009, less than 1/10th a degree at it's closest in the fall of 2011 and is making it's 1st exact conjunction in 2012.(a week ago) signaling a large zone of potential maximum influence(probably months in diameter) This influence won't just disappear in a swan song. Think of a slowly advancing wave, crossing back and forth every year for a few years.



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    Does Rand Paul also have an 11th house Pluto, like his dad?? His birthtime isn't available to make a horoscope. The best Rodden rating we can do is an "X", a rectification. It's something I've been wondering about; can I just "figure" out his birthtime from nothing. I do like a challenge. A couple futile tries I've done in the months, then I had an idea last week that led me somewhere and I'm looking at a possible chart. I want the answer from the 'back of the book' now. His mom knows, the hospital knows.

    I want to know too.

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    this seems to be generic but here is where I found it: http://www.zot.net/pallas_liberty.htm


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    Regarding Aug 6 hearing for contesting motion to dismiss:

    A tweet from Richard Gilbert today mentions the importance of the Voting Rights Act to the motion to dismiss decision and probably of the injunction decision in the near future -- it's a nice synchronicity since the signing and enactment of the VRA by LBJ was Aug 6, 1965 -- the 47th birthday.

    A quick look at the inception chart for the VRA shows the following favorable transits in this case.

    transit Jupiter conjuncting natal North Node in Gemini -- a broadening of meaning applied to the words and terms used ie 'discrimination' and 'right to vote' (one's conscience) -- expansion of application of VRA to delegates

    transit Jupiter opposite natal Moon in Sagitarius -- again a broadening of meaning and application to the general public or citizenry and the revision of the law as pertains to this case -- a new precedent or at least a new application not considered before

    transit Saturn trine natal Jupiter -- verifies the clarity, soundness and consistency of this new application

    transit Sun squares natal Neptune -- occurs Aug 8-9 which triggers a time of decision by the judge -- has historic implications
    Now combine the VRA info with the previous posts that mention the delay of decision due to retrograde Mercury and of favorable transits on Aug 8 when Mercury turns direct -- Saturn square Lot of Fortune, Mars conjunct Rhadamanthus, Justitia sextile Ascendent, Venus ingress into Cancer -- the Zodiacal Releasing chart showing favorable time of action starting after Aug 7 -- the monthly profection info with a new phase beginning Aug 11 which should be time for preparing for injunction argument after motion to dismiss is denied

    So far the astrological interpretation has been consistent.

    Aug 8 Update

    Mercury turning direct, the favorable Sagitarius Aug 11 profection phase (Ascendent), the favorable Zodiacal Release pattern change Aug 17 to Cp-Cp-Aq-Aq, and the Aug 18 date of multiple transits mentioned previously wrt the LM chart are still in play given the latest news.

    The latest news from the LFRP thread in grassroots forum indicates that even though the judge did grant the motion to dismiss, he did so without prejudice and Gilbert is okay with this and says he was expecting this, (called it playing 3D chess) and has an amended complaint already prepared to address the judge's requirements. (he called it a 'knock-out punch') He says it will be submitted tomorrow.

    Here is why "without prejudice" is so important and why it keeps the case alive for the injunction to be granted before Aug 27.

    What is dismissed without prejudice?

    In short it means that the case was dismissed inconclusively. There may have been missing evidence or procedural requirements not met, and therefore the case could potentially be brought before the court again by the parties involved.

    It is an order issued by a judge actually dismissing the charges that were brought in the case - usually for some legal insufficiency, or lack of evidence, in the case itself. Dismissal WITHOUT Prejudice means that the charges MAY be re-instituted and brought before court again AFTER the legal insufficiency is cured.

    It is usually a term used in the context of case being dismissed. The significance of it is that the Plaintiff/Prosecution retains the right to re-file the lawsuit a second time.

    A case can be dismissed without prejudice by the judge (such as, if he or she grants a motion to dismiss filed by the defendant--but in such a case, the plaintiff/prosecution usually will be given the right amend the complaint (restate the allegations of the lawsuit), or it can be voluntarily dismissed altogether by the plaintiff/prosecutor. In many jurisdictions, a second voluntary dismissal by a plaintiff will preclude any subsequent refiling of the cause of action, but that is governed by local law.
    Last edited by MikefromSyracuse; 08-08-2012 at 09:53 AM.

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    I've set the orbs to 1/60th of a degree. Conjunctions only. This is afternoon, Aug 30 2012. The 1 pixel dots show they are in orb.
    transit Mercury conjunct Sun
    transit Sun conjunct Mercury
    This is the guy "they" aren't gonna let talk? Better question is why are they pretending they aren't gonna let him talk. That there are too many other important republicans that need the time. Isn't Paul one of the top 100 most influential people of the year. I'm sensing some inconsistencies.

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    transits(precession corrected)
    ______ neptune,saturn/pluto
    aug 12- 1pi09 , 0sa01
    aug 15- 1pi04 , 0sa07
    aug 18- 0pi59 , 0sa12
    aug 21- 0pi54 , 0sa19
    aug 24- 0pi49 , 0sa25
    aug 27- 0pi44 , 0sa32
    aug 30- 0pi39 , 0sa39

    Romney Ascendant = 1ge07
    So curious infrequent alignment for aug 30
    transit(Saturn/Pluto=Neptune) = Romney Ascendant


    neptune=saturn/pluto from few reference books:

    Combination of Stellar Influences
    falsehoods, lies, frauds, the desire to harm others secretly, immorality, instability. -Danger through water, poison, or gas. -Shattered nerves.

    Rules for Planetary Pictures
    A slow development comes to a standstill. One cannot see any change in a chronically slow development. A divorce extending over a long time.

    Parkers
    The tendency to cheat and defraud.
    The person is at risk of falling into deception and undesirable habits.

    Solar Arcs
    Being doubted, not being seen for who one is; unstable life situation because of the inexplicable, because of fear.

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    This thread about a Romney arrest at the convention made me take a closer look at his chart for Aug 27 at around 12 noon.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-At-Convention

    IMHO the transits and progressions made to Romney's personal chart do suggest a 'perfect storm' scenario for any of the 3 days of the convention but specifically for Aug 27 when transit Moon goes opposite transit Venus at around 8pm. (also makes T-square to transit Rhadamanthus)

    Hey, if the injunction to unbind takes place then all hell breaks loose for Romney and that's what I see taking place with his chart.


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    so where's the chart for Paul on his b-day?

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    this from Romney's chart. Since the transit Sun will highlight Mars by being in transit opposite Mars around say the evening of Aug 29th.

    Romney: t.Chiron=t.Sun=r.Mars

    http://astrolibrary.org/transits/chi...unct-mars.html
    Transiting Chiron Conjunct Mars
    (TRANSIT TO NATAL.)
    This can be a painful time during which you are forced to reassess your pursuits in life either as a result of emotional upheaval, or through physical limitations. This is not a time for taking risks as you are accident prone or vulnerable to illness. You would do better to use this time to reassess your ambitions in the light of your true purpose. In other words contemplate your true talents and gifts and how they can best be expressed. This way there will be much healing and by the end of the transit you will find that you are on a path more suited to your life purpose.

    some thoughts:
    the transit Sun will be at the midpoint of transit Mars/Kronos around the 27-28th. Mars/Kronos is police.

    relocated at Tampa, Romneys solar return can be directed* to have the Ascendant meet the Saturn/Vulkanus (captivity)
    *about 1 1/4degrees/day(+00:04:53.8/day), so the solar return midheaven directs to meet the next birthday's solar return's midheaven. This works out to 170.2 days after his solar return, or about Aug 28 morning.

    gives a possible timeline to this theory, better go read this thread you mentioned...

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    any charts about the New Louisiana Purchase / Compromise?

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