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The Republic is not good for learning about liberty, but it is good for learning about the NWO, the elite, and how the world really works. If you do read it, pick a good translation. I've read one by Grube/Reeve which sucked, and one by Jowett that was great.
See what most people misunderstand about The Republic is that it was written as a metaphor for a man's (or woman's) soul. This is hardly surprising as most people misunderstand Nietzsche's concept of will to power as well. I do find it funny that you don't recommend the The Republic and then turn around to recommend an elaboration of many of the book's precepts. You are aware that Aristotle was Plato's student no?
The Republic Is fine material for learning about life, life (INDISPUTABLY AND SHOVE YOUR METAPHYSICS not a directed comment but meant for general consumption) contains liberty.... thus The Republic is worthwhile read for anyone interested in learning about liberty. I read Jowett's as well, very well done.
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It is the very first philosophical book I read. I was a clean slate. I wanted to know the truth, and what better place to learn from the classics. This is before I knew about RP.
I wanted to be a philosopher king after reading it, if only philosophers ruled the world! It instils the central planning mindset to a key. I have no doubt I'm not the only one who comes away with that impression.
Aristotle's Ethics was the second book I read. I came away with a distinct different feeling / understanding. That of natural law, that virtue is linked to happiness etc. I can see why he was the guiding light for so long.Plato, the First "Planner"
Many people believe that this issue arose with the advent of socialism a century or so ago and was given its impetus and virulence by the communist class war dogma of Karl Marx. That is not so.
The controversy is almost as old as civilization. It began in ancient Greece, almost four hundred years before the Christian era, with the doctrines of Plato. He was the first of the "planners" and the true founder of the communist economy which deifies the state. In his Republic the Athenian philosopher set out a virtual blueprint for the evolution of what has come to be called the "Welfare State."
Plato's ideal republic was founded upon two primary assumptions: (1) that the community must be comprised of only two classes, those who govern and those who are governed (the latter owing implicit obedience to the former), and (2) that human qualities are mainly hereditary and therefore that rulers must beget future rulers. (It should be noted that Plato belonged by birth to the aristocratic governing class who hated the democracy no less than the principles upon which the democratic system is founded.) ~ It Started with Plato, Mises.org
“I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.” ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
Conza
Update the MSM list with these.
Noam Chomsky - Manufacturing Consent
James Bovard - Attention Deficit Democracy
Edward Bernays - Propoganda
Marshall McCluhan - The Medium is the Massage
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“I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.” ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
Any new books to read?
What do you guys suggest I read next? (Check out my signature for more info on that).
Anyone know of any good biographies?
Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery - Calvin Coolidge
Recently read A Foreign Policy of Freedom and enjoyed it immensely. Very very eye opening and if you've been pushing this one back, consider reading it next. Great read.
Propaganda: The shaping of men's attitudes
By Jacques Ellul
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Best of luck in life.
Just ordered Man, Economy, and State with Power and Markets by Murray Rotherbard... SOOOO excited. Also books on propaganda by Bernays.
Best of luck in life.
Napolitano's "A Nation of Sheep" is written twice, you should remove one of them. Also, for "
Constitution in Exile by Judge Napolinano", Napolitano's name is spelt wrong.
Please add:
- Andrew Napolitano's "The Freedom Answer Book: How the Government Is Taking Away Your Constitutional Freedoms" (Law & the Constitution)
- Andrew Napolitano's "Theodore and Woodrow: How Two American Presidents Destroyed Constitutional Freedom" (Education)
- Rand Paul's "The Tea Party Goes To Washington" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Rand Paul's "Government Bullies" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Pat Buchanan's "Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War" (Education)
- Pat Buchanan's "Where the Right Went Wrong" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Pat Buchanan's "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Ron Paul's "End The Fed" (Sound Money, Economics)
- Walter Block's "Ron Paul for President in 2012: Yes to Ron Paul and Liberty" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Daniel Hannan's "Why America Must Not Follow Europe" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Daniel Hannan's "The New Road to Serfdom: A Letter of Warning to America" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Calvin Coolidge's "The Autobiography of Calvin Coolidge" (Education)
- Barry Goldwater's "Why Not Victory? A fresh look at American policy" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater's "Conscience of a Majority" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater's "With No Apologies: The Outspoken Political Memoirs of America's Conservative Conscience" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater's "The Coming Breakpoint" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater's "Goldwater" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater's "Arizona" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- Barry Goldwater Jr.'s "Pure Goldwater" (Politics and the current state of affairs)
- James Patterson's "Mr. Republican: A Biography of Robert A. Taft" (Education)
- Russell Kirk's "The Political Principles of Robert A. Taft" (Education)
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The Battle of Life: A Love Story By Dickens.
Best of luck in life.
Take the Rich Off of Welfare- Mark Zepezauer [the expanded 2004 edition- though both editions are incredible]
The CIA's Greatest Hits- Mark Zepezauer
Killing Hope: U.S. Military and CIA Interventions since World War II- William Blum
America's Deadliest Export: Democracy- William Blum
Freeing the World to Death- William Blum
Rogue State- William Blum
What is the best english translation of "le comte de monte cristo"? Buss's version is not it, resplendent is not an archaic word. Can any of our linguists give me direction in this matter?
Best of luck in life.
Clotho's Loom: A Novel of Literary Romance and Realism by Shawn StJean is a worthy read
Hahah, time to review some of them?
“I will be as harsh as truth, and uncompromising as justice... I am in earnest, I will not equivocate, I will not excuse, I will not retreat a single inch, and I will be heard.” ~ William Lloyd Garrison
Worthy Threads:
- Ron Paul reconfirms his voluntarism
- Murray N. Rothbard: In Memoriam by Ron Paul
- State or Private Law Society?
- Please convince me of statism!
- Ron Paul and Private Courts
- Youtube
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