Liberty Channel/TV - several people have suggested it, reality or fantasy?

[literatim]

I would like to make a suggestion.

Nearly a year ago, I discovered a group who wanted to inititate a new News network. this network planned to represent as close as possible the real news, not the MSM type of news we now have. It is finally up and running under the banner The Real News Network.

This could be the place to hook up with the Liberty message rather than trying to start from scratch. I know it was at least a year before they got their site up and running and tonight I checked it again and they are up!!

They accept no government or corporate funding, and no advertising. Only donations.

Please take some time to check them out as I also will do. If they are what I think they are, this could be the place for which you are searching. At the very least they can probably give you some great information.

If it were possible, it could be a great thing to work with them rather than compete with them.

Here is the URL.

Real News Network
h ttp://www.therealnews.com/web/index.php

Thanks and best of luck.

It is a socialist leaning news site.

[purplechoe]

I'd watch it and donate $.

[Mark]

A few notes after reading the thread:

1. No one has said it will be easy, any naysayer comments are not necessary, "can't is not an option"

2. Target audience is those who are, or will be, net savvy enough to reguire a broadband connection,
no one can be all to everyone, people who only want dial-up aren't ROI feasible to address

3. 501(c)3 Orgs cannot be directly involved, however, from my experience, I see no reason not to utilize one as an investment vehicle.

Case in point: My 501(c)3 receives $1000 in tax deductible donations from 1000 people for a total of 1 million .

Now I have a conundrum. What to do with 1 million?

a. I can give it away until there's none left.

b. I can invest in CD's at say 5% interest, and my ROI is $50,000/year in annual income that I can give away,
yet, still retain the initial capital.

c. I can invest in a growing company, that I have no direct involvement in, only an investment,
thus not compromising my Tax Exempt 501(c)3 status, and see a ROI of potentially 400% (5 million) in 5 years

What would be the wisest course in order to be a good steward of the donation?

a. would be honorable, yet completely draining of all capital. Not ideal.

b. A ROI of 5%/year, $50,000 ($250,000 in 5 years) Not bad, but admin costs would eat up a lot of the ROI

c. Receive 5 million in 5 years, that I could then invest in CD's for a ROI of $250,000 every year,
a substantial amount that could be used honorably annually indefinitely, with no loss of initial capital. Quite astute.

I think I'd choose to invest in the growing company, and what Gov Agency could fault me for it?

Win Win Win for:

a. Initial donors who received a tax deduction for their contribution

b. Growing company who needs an initial infusion of capital to grow

c. My 501(c)3 which, in 5 years, would see the same return as investing initially in a 5% CD for 5 years, plus,
each consecutive year following, a 400% annual increase in ROI compared to initially investing in a CD, meaning,
a 400% increase annually in funds available for distribution.

4. Venture capital - I know someone

5. Business plan - I know someone

[Mark]

I left out the having a forum here idea.

Great! Initially. But eventually, like any other company, not ideal for discussing business plans beyond a certain point.

Probably not wise to have all your plans freely available for everyone on the web to peruse at their leisure.

[Noble]

LiberTV?

[Shink]

Guerilla TV, for reasons I put in the PM.

[gang]

Great idea!

When it's get streamed as IPTV also the cable providers can use it. But in America the stations have to pay, when they wanna be on cable, don't they?

And there is lots of content to be broadcasted. Probably the Mises Institute would be interested, too.

But such a station should not be established as a non-profit-organisation. Doing it as an LLC - or using a foreign kind of partnership - provides opportunities to collect money and offer reduced taxes for investors. And that's always been a good argument.

[Mark]

I just thought of a concern in terms of the company/domain name.

This isn't meant to be a RP specific Network. It's meant more like an honest network.

It's been discussed that the focus should be all encompassing,
i.e.
We don't have to cover only Ron to get his message across, we only have to cover his message of Liberty and freedom,
and people will be drawn to him like we all have.

It may be wise to avoid a company domain name like Gorilla, it's a bit controversial.
Also, domains are best if they're simple. LiberTV is good, but the spelling may be confusing. However a winner in terms of discussing viability.

Also, the company name can be completely different than the domain name.
There's no rule that says they have to be the same.

I already have:

NewPress.tv ~ Very simple, easy to remember and write, expresses a non-biased viewpoint, and the idea of a new paradigm in media coverage.

I also already have:

NewPressTV.com ~ a possible company name? Same principles as above.

Company: NewPressTV

Website: NewPress.tv

Motto: "NewPress TV, a New Press for the New Millennium"

What's not to like? Very benign, basic name that describes the purpose to create a new outlet for news.

These days, Press doesn't just mean the printed press, it's a general term for news outlets.

Press conferences include TV stations. Si?

The words/term ~ "New", "Press", "TV"

How much more benign, simple to express, remember, and convey can you get? And still describe the product?
Without sounding like the company leans a certain way?

LiberTV even sounds a bit "political". NewPress is TOTALLY benign.

It implies nothing other than a New Press. A new option for news. What's not perfect as can be reasonably expected?

It's a New Millennium, people want a New Choice for news. We're offering them that new choice. a New Press outlet for TV.

We're offering them New Press TV

[Mark]

Thoughts as to the best State to Incorporate in?

Isn't Delaware used a lot for Credit Card companies? A business friendly State?

[Elwar]

Internet only...the technology will catch up to the channel.

[BeFranklin]

The Ron Paul Liberty Television Network.

[integrity]

count me in!

[constitutional]

Ron Paul is obviously our top priority however the political battles will not end with the Presidency. Because Dr. Paul's message is unifying all of us at a national level this is an appropriate time to talk about some long term ideas such as this one that has already been mentioned while we have a large audience.

Question #1 - Fantasy or Reality?
This project would take money and planning. Do we have enough people interested to get it off the ground or the expertise to put together a sound financial plan that will raise venture capital?

Question #2 - Content?
Do people envision a cable/sat channel? Internet only? Start as internet only with ambitions to grow into a cable/sat channel? If we start internet only create in depth programs and sell to history channel/pbs? Email subscriptions with links to videos?

Original news content or work with all of the pieces of local/regions news that is already available but most of us never see the whole picture?

Original programming like 60 minutes or history channel in depth stories?

Many of us are fed up with the OM and here are so many questions, but the first question is are we really interested in the idea? Or are we interested in a different idea? The internet is prime real estate right now to start a network on the internet. Liberty TV is currently a void in the market place. Many are not even aware of small bits and pieces of change happening all across the country every day. Many are not aware of several liberty oriented groups that already exist and have been fighting the good fight. Do we want a news medium we can count to keep us current on the issues, political races, etc. Are we ready to change it or not?

If you like the idea respond in the thread or send a private message so we can organize an intelligent discussion to plan the idea.

I like it. These kinds of project MUST take place after election is over and RP is chilling in the office.

[eric_cartman]

i would start with an internet tv channel. it's way cheaper and it will give everyone a chance to check it out. then if people like what they see, then we can work on getting it on TV.

[Mark]

i would start with an internet tv channel. it's way cheaper and it will give everyone a chance to check it out. then if people like what they see, then we can work on getting it on TV.

It's really something that needs to fly asap if we're going to do it in order to help the campaign.

Sure, a web channel is cool, but we're trying to reach people off the web too. To tap that market.

As a fully developed, ongoing company, sure, the extent would reach out through future years.

But, we're trying to combat the MSM now, in their medium.

We''re already on the Internet. Youtube, sites ect. We need to be on TV to fight the negative hype.

[Mark]

count me in!

In what capacity?

[BeFranklin]

Think we can build the project in separate boxes at the same time, and do both; satellite and internet. Maybe also use it to boast other initiatives, like generating videos for sending to cable access channels.

[constitutional]

It's really something that needs to fly asap if we're going to do it in order to help the campaign.

Sure, a web channel is cool, but we're trying to reach people off the web too. To tap that market.

As a fully developed, ongoing company, sure, the extent would reach out through future years.

But, we're trying to combat the MSM now, in their medium.

We''re already on the Internet. Youtube, sites ect. We need to be on TV to fight the negative hype.

It doesn't need to fly now. Period. We can't afford it and it will be a mess. And if you think we can get a channel up and running before the primaries are over... good luck.

Again, I like this idea once the election is over. It can't be done now.

[qednick]

I *love* this idea.

[Mark]

Can one of the senior members or admins get a liberty tv project thread started in the grass roots projects.

There are many ideas to be worked out

I did in Tech Projects a few days ago.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=58817


Maybe you mean a dedicated forum?

[BeFranklin]

Or maybe just The Ron Paul Network. It should have Ron Paul' name in there, which will be used long after Ron Paul leaves office as President of the United States.

[Mark]

It doesn't need to fly now. Period. We can't afford it and it will be a mess. And if you think we can get a channel up and running before the primaries are over... good luck.

Again, I like this idea once the election is over. It can't be done now.

Some of us want to try.

Even if things aren't in full gear before the primaries are over, there's a lot of time before the general election to utilize.

Please note point #1 on this previous page:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...t=60820&page=4

1. No one has said it will be easy, any naysayer comments are not necessary, "can't is not an option"

[AceNZ]

Internet only...the technology will catch up to the channel.

Sure, the tech will catch up. That's not the point, though. The people we need to reach -- Middle America -- largely aren't Internet-savvy, and will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

We can start on the Internet, since the cost to do so is relatively low. But remember, this isn't a TV channel just for people who already understand RP's message of freedom, prosperity and peace.

The really important part of this concept is that it provides a mechanism to reach people who don't get it yet. It's a vehicle that will allow us to compete in the ongoing Information War against the likes of CNN and Fox News.

There are already a million websites that carry this type of information. If we stay on the web, we will never have the reach and the level of influence needed to make a serious impact.

[Mark]

Or maybe just The Ron Paul Network. It should have Ron Paul' name in there, which will be used long after Ron Paul leaves office as President of the United States.

That negates the point of a non-specific RP Network, that espouses his message and resonates beyond the campaign.

[SteveMartin]

Check out:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/boards/vie...78&listpage=20

The idea is to work towards this AFTER the primaries, because until then, our money should be going to support RP.

After he wins the nomination, we will need a channel to explain why a RP candidacy is the best hope for America.

Even should he lose in the general election (not really possible, if he wins the nomination IMHO) this channel will educate Americans to the point where a win for RP (or someone much like him) can be guaranteed in 2013--if we have that long left as a nation, that is...

[Mark]

Sure, the tech will catch up. That's not the point, though. The people we need to reach -- Middle America -- largely aren't Internet-savvy, and will remain that way for the foreseeable future.

We can start on the Internet, since the cost to do so is relatively low. But remember, this isn't a TV channel just for people who already understand RP's message of freedom, prosperity and peace.

The really important part of this concept is that it provides a mechanism to reach people who don't get it yet. It's a vehicle that will allow us to compete in the ongoing Information War against the likes of CNN and Fox News.

There are already a million websites that carry this type of information. If we stay on the web, we will never have the reach and the level of influence needed to make a serious impact.

QFT Exactly, we could "practice" on the web before going "live", but it's certain not the goal or aim to be an Internet network.

We have those, we do not have a TV presence.

[AceNZ]

It doesn't need to fly now. Period. We can't afford it and it will be a mess. And if you think we can get a channel up and running before the primaries are over... good luck.

Again, I like this idea once the election is over. It can't be done now.

So you're happy with the way the MSM is presenting the facts?

The R3volution will not end with the primaries. RP will continue to need support through the general election.

In the unlikely event he doesn't win, the momentum developed with the grassroots support needs to be captured and focused. We need people to understand the message of Freedom, Prosperity and Peace for the next election too, so that representatives with supporting viewpoints will be more likely to be elected.

Plus, it *can* be done now.

[Mark]

Check out:

http://ronpaul.meetup.com/boards/vie...78&listpage=20

The idea is to work towards this AFTER the primaries, because until then, our money should be going to support RP.

After he wins the nomination, we will need a channel to explain why a RP candidacy is the best hope for America.

Even should he lose in the general election (not really possible, if he wins the nomination IMHO) this channel will educate Americans to the point where a win for RP (or someone much like him) can be guaranteed in 2013--if we have that long left as a nation, that is...

Thanks! I'll look into coordinating with them. Not interested in waiting for anything though.

Other projects can wait until after the primaries too, but they don't, do they? Why should this one?

[webber53]

The Ron Paul Liberty Television Network.

How does WRPL sound?

[SteveMartin]

Thanks! I'll look into coordinating with them. Not interested in waiting for anything though.

Other projects can wait until after the primaries too, but they don't, do they? Why should this one?

The fund raising side of this ONLY should wait, IMO (but it is just MO, and I can be talked out of it) until after the primaries so that every available dollar can go to RP.

We will have a website up tonight. TheFreedomNetwork.US project has only been going for two weeks, but we have several board members already signed up, and will hash ideas and run small projects (like OUR OWN PROFESSIONAL POLLS) starting tonight (according to the webmaster.)

Let's all work together!