Anything but a Martin Luther King Moneybomb, PLEASE!

[Noble]

This suggestion is too divisive. If we're arguing about it this much in the Ron Paul forums, its going to be a flop. Please rethink the idea.

I honestly think it will be bad for the campaign, cause controversy where none existed before, and make people argue.

[FluffyUnbound]

This suggestion is too divisive. If we're arguing about it this much in the Ron Paul forums, its going to be a flop. Please rethink the idea.

I honestly think it will be bad for the campaign, cause controversy where none existed before, and make people argue.

Can you help me to understand what the source of the controversy might be?

[tsetsefly]

it's like pandering a bit I am iffy on if if people support it I will donate so its not a flop but if people dont support it I wont lose sleep over it...

[fortilite]

This suggestion is too divisive. If we're arguing about it this much in the Ron Paul forums, its going to be a flop. Please rethink the idea.

I honestly think it will be bad for the campaign, cause controversy where none existed before, and make people argue.

LOL, I guess we should rethink a Glen Beck interview too judging by the forums yesterday.

[jamesmadison]

MLK is a fraud who plagurized his doctoral thesis, much of his college work, and his "I have a dream" speech.

[DJ RP]

I'd like the next moneybomb to be the 31st december to give us the biggest quarter boost possible. Just make it a new years eve moneybomb and we'll call it "Prosperity day" to celebrate Ron Paul's desire to make America richer through peace!

[Taco John]

This suggestion is too divisive. If we're arguing about it this much in the Ron Paul forums, its going to be a flop. Please rethink the idea.

I honestly think it will be bad for the campaign, cause controversy where none existed before, and make people argue.

HORRIBLE!

If people can't accept a money bomb to commemorate the shared vision of Dr. Martin Luther King and Dr. Ron Paul, then they're supporting the wrong campaign.

[rollingpig]

MLK is a fraud who plagurized his doctoral thesis, much of his college work, and his "I have a dream" speech.

wth r u talking about?

[jamesmadison]

HORRIBLE!

If people can't accept a money bomb to commemorate the shared vision of Dr. Martin Luther King and Dr. Ron Paul, then they're supporting the wrong campaign.

No, they're just making a decision. What are you talking about?

[jamesmadison]

wth r u talking about?

http://setanta.unl.edu/mlk/dn_column.html

[fortilite]

Not everyone will support it. If you don't want to give to this moneybomb, give to the one on the 31st. I will give to both, personally.

[rrcamp]

We have been over this a million times with people arguing one way or another about moneybombs.

JUST LET THE MARKET DECIDE!!!!!

People will sign up or they won't... this isn't some hugely important debate we need to be having every time somebody comes up with a new idea.

[Devil_rules_in_extremes]

Can we do something Constitution related?

[Noble]

if anyone wants to know WHY i think it will cause controversy... just read THIS THREAD
Imagine this on popular news programs, op-eds, discussed by everyone.

It would be damaging.

"Has Ron Paul gone too far? Now he's pimping a dead civil rights hero to rally support for his cause"

[Noble]

Oh, why don't I set up a white supremacist moneybomb? I mean... if you don't like it, don't donate!

Edit: Yes, thats an awful suggestion, no I don't mean it seriously... it just illustrates the fallacy of your logic.

Edit Edit : If we're going to use a PERSON, we should use one who can CONSENT to having his image and reputation used. Someone who is alive.

[Taco John]

Oh, why don't I set up a white supremacist moneybomb? I mean... if you don't like it, don't donate!

Edit: Yes, thats an awful suggestion, no I don't mean it seriously... it just illustrates the fallacy of your logic.

Go for it.

[PatriotOne]

Oh hell no! There is no reason to start a million fricken threads about this subject like the blimp controversary. Feel free to post your brain farts in the existing threads but please don't think they are worthy of their very own thread.

Mods! Don't let this happen again.

[ckhagen]

I don't like seeing *anyone* use a dead person as the strategy for winning votes or raising money. MLK, Jesus, etc... it's just not cool since the person isn't here to tell us for themselves whether or not they agree. Let's celebrate who they were and what they accomplished, but please don't use them for financial gain.

[z7trance]

It has nothing to do with whether you like MLK or not, it has to do with the community being divided on whether or not it should happen. A large number of us DO NOT want any more money bombs and would rather bomb the donations consistently from now until election day.

Money bombs were to get media attention, they served their purpose and now its time for the home stretch to the primaries.. If the we're divided then money raised on that day will be low, and press will be nil. Donate what you can spare from now until then each pay cheque, don't save it for another money bomb.

[NewEnd]

Oh, why don't I set up a white supremacist moneybomb? I mean... if you don't like it, don't donate!

Edit: Yes, thats an awful suggestion, no I don't mean it seriously... it just illustrates the fallacy of your logic.

Edit Edit : If we're going to use a PERSON, we should use one who can CONSENT to having his image and reputation used. Someone who is alive.

Why don't you? Go for it. Then no-one will e er listen to your B.S. ever again.

[BarryDonegan]

failed moneybombs do not hurt.

we have outraised everyone else. try as many as you like, the ones which are best promoted and have the right attitude will cause money, the ones which dont will fail.

let the market decide.

in fact there is no real harm in any kind of money bomb if we did 1000 that appealed to 1000 different obscure interests, we would have MORE money.

which is what matters.

even a simultaneous MLK money bomb along with a WHITE SUPREMICist tiny money bomb would still result in a net gains in money which is huge. and the ability for the media to spin the campaign which just had a larger MLK money bomb as racist would fail also.

we are the people who come back from behind and take 3 point shots. and we are raining 3s.

[stefans]

the "natural" date for a money bomb is the end of the quarter, maybe even the official campaign will set up something(they did last quarter).
everything is way too early to decide now(and 21st may be too late for super tuesday anyway)

so stop creating webpages for moneybombs just because you want some of the trevor-lyman-fame.

[Noble]

Barry: failed moneybombs don't hurt, I agree..

I'm just afraid this one is needlessly controversial because of its theme.

Controversy that can spill over into the mainstream media, who may or may not be eager to crucify the grassroots supporters.

This could conceivably do more harm than good. I mean, people here are getting angry at me for even starting this thread.

I like the end of quarter moneybomb.

Basically, the MLK moneybomb idea is in bad taste.

[adwads]

Moneybomb Compromise? Check it out:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=60459

[constituent]

This suggestion is too divisive. If we're arguing about it this much in the Ron Paul forums, its going to be a flop. Please rethink the idea.

I honestly think it will be bad for the campaign, cause controversy where none existed before, and make people argue.

uhhhh.... don't like it, don't give.


bossing people around is divisive...

quit. go canvass. i'm getting off work early today b/c
i just moved to a new neighborhood... as far as i know,
no one has knocked on my neighbors' doors yet....

so yea, it earned me some dirty looks, but some things
are more important, i'll be leaving at 4 to knock on some doors...

until then, rest assured that i'll not be naysaying.

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I have done quit a few papers on Martin Luther King Jr. and his contribution to spreading communism in this country. I am very anti-King because of the truth that you will not find in text books. With that said, I would still contribute to a money bomb on his birthday because this is about Dr. Paul not King. As much as I hate to say it, the sad reality is that our media would probably pay more attention to a money bomb on that day as opposed to Guy Fawkes day or the anniversary of our Tea Party.

[Mark37snj]

There is a New Years Eve Money Bomb!

[BarryDonegan]

the OLD MEDIAis not under our control. they do nothing but hit pieces, pretty much 100% hitpieces or they ignore us. we do not cooperate with things that are designed to avoid hitpieces, that is not possible.

in fact, karl rove's successful strategy for promoting George Dubs crazy agendas have REQUIRED negative attention in order to move through the media.

scandal doesn't hurt candidates, its your REACTION to the scandal. huckabees kid is torturing dogs, he wants to quarantine all the gays, he gave illegals free schooling... clinton bill and hill are so surrounded by fiscal scandal, weird suicides, rapes, sexual harrassment suits...

a 500$ donation from a weirdo who has a bad website now and again is literally nothing. in fact, the fact that hillary clinton responds to controversy like that instead of controversy about her husband raping women is because if she responds to those things it draws attention to the minor snafus of taking money from an illegal chinese donor rather than people "comitting suicide" during a major scandal or stuff with stronger more criminal implications.

put it in perspective.

some weirdos give ron paul money, some weirdos not connected tot he campaign make some weird websites about ron paul. but theres 200010230401234 more pieces of info to the contrary. ron paul hasn't aborted any of his sisters or had a financial scandal where every one of his business partners "comitted suicide" or suddenly got into car accidents... his opposition DOES.\

bill clinton did a 60 minutes interview after the superbowl where he apologized for cheating on hillary and THIS IS WHAT ENSURED HIM THE NOMINATION. he was not a household name until this happened. bad news is more exciting to the media than good news, and, likewise, it travels faster. plus, people like defending people. thats the main reason we all like dr paul, is we watched the debates and he was a lone voice and everyone was attacking him and booing him for things that boiled our blood. so we took to the streets to fight.

in that case the obvious hit piece blew up in their face and fired us up.

[fortilite]

Thing about failed moneybombs, we have had mini moneybombs every week. Nobody noticed, no harm no foul.

Moneybombs are great tools for nudging people who are normally reluctant to donate. There are a lot of inertia heavy folks out there who will only change thier donating habits if an event causes them to. And getting them to donate for the first time puts an investment of theirs into Dr. Paul's election - they become more likely to do other grassroots activities as a result.

[speciallyblend]

im all for it,so subjecct over,anyone against it,go to hannity forums and post your crap there