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    Meta Ends Fact-Checking Scheme

    I know we're all programmed for negativity, but this is a positive move for free(r) speech.

    https://www.ft.com/content/7693fb45-...f-4ce7a93349f7


    Facebook owner Meta is ending its third party fact-checking programme and will instead rely on its users to flag misinformation.

    The social media platform on Tuesday said it would “allow more speech by lifting restrictions on some topics that are part of mainstream discourse and focusing our enforcement on illegal and high-severity violations” and “take a more personalised approach to political content”.

    Starting in the US, Meta will move to a so-called “community notes” model, similar to the one employed by Elon Musk’s X, which allows users to add context to controversial or misleading posts. Meta itself will not write community notes.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire



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    While the moves are mostly positive, the amount of admissions of guilt in this video are really astounding.

    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    "here's some troubling news..." Ha Ha Ha!

    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    While the moves are mostly positive, the amount of admissions of guilt in this video are really astounding.

    Sounded even genuine, maybe big Zuck is coming around? Maybe!

    It could of course be a move to get more right winger activity on the platform for NSA to spy on but whatever I'll take this as good news for now
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sounded even genuine, maybe big Zuck is coming around? Maybe!

    It could of course be a move to get more right winger activity on the platform for NSA to spy on but whatever I'll take this as good news for now
    I think he's acting in overall good faith and it's not just this headline that is my reason for saying that. I was absolutely shocked when Facebook open-sourced LLaMa (their AI model) and they have since doubled-down on that over and over, releasing more and more capable versions of LLaMa that score right up with ChatGPT and Claude on AI benchmarks... it's real AI, not a cheap knockoff. LLaMa has turned into the Linux of AI, basically, as it is the single most capable LLM that is open-source and an entire ecosystem of LLaMa-based tools and services have sprung up around it. Because LLaMa is run locally, it can't be yanked around by the winds of changing corporate policies even by Meta... they've let the bird out of its cage. There are some self-interested reasons why this choice makes sense for Facebook, it's not pure charity. But keeping it proprietary would have also been in their interests in different ways, so the public release of LLaMa, and ongoing support of the open-source AI ecosystem, shows that Zuckerberg is committed to running opposition against the OpenAI/M$ monolith in the AI space.

    PS: I strongly suspect that Meta is actually way ahead of OpenAI since every time a new ChatGPT drops, Meta releases a version of LLaMa that is at par with it... it feels a little bit like when SR-71 pilots maintained their world speed record by just moving the throttle a little further forward each time somebody else tried to grab the record. LLaMa usually places a close #2 or #3 on the benchmarks, but they're steadily maintaining that position. I have much higher confidence in Yann Lecun's understanding of AI in general than in Sam Altman's (Lecun is head of Meta's AI research lab).
    Last edited by ClaytonB; 01-07-2025 at 06:49 PM.
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl8_M-nmY88



    WGAS

    WGAF

    No one paid attention to this propaganda anyway.
    Last edited by unknown; 01-07-2025 at 08:23 PM.

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    2020: Censors speech, destroys lives, spends ~$400 million to rig elections to defeat Trump.

    2025: Hey look, I'm a good guy now! I'm gonna visit Trump and hire a Trump guy, and he's a tough, manly guy too!


    Some people have been talking about "new-MAGA", which is all of the previously more left people who have become Trump supporters.

    There was already a name for that: neoconservative.
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  9. #8
    Facebook will now probably end up adopting Twitter's community notes.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

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    IMHO he is just trying to remain relevant. The Twitter/X that was doomed to fail, is going to massively succeed and it is negatively impacting Zuck.

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    Everybody is missing the obvious, I keep trying to tell you..

    Zuck, along with doing BJJ, started taking TRT. I'd bet a lot of money on it.

    TRT became a huge fad in the tech industry last year. I have a friend who got on it, absolutely hated Trump and had horrible TDS. His T levels turned out to be rock bottom. I bet my other friend he would be a Trump supporter within 6 months of starting TRT and vote for him. I was right, I even had the timeline right. It was 6 months almost to the day.

    The Democrat Party is the party of women and low T men. It's really that simple.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Everybody is missing the obvious, I keep trying to tell you..

    Zuck, along with doing BJJ, started taking TRT. I'd bet a lot of money on it...

    The Democrat Party is the party of women and low T men. It's really that simple.
    You're simple. He's a CIA front man, dodo. Grow up.

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    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  16. #14
    Is free speech "MAGA?"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33v9DvK8d-4
    {Jack Hunter | 07 January 2025}

    According to CNN's Brian Stelter and many on the left, freedom of expression and speech is now right-wing.


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    CLIPS from SYSTEM UPDATE #384:

    Zuckerberg's Free Speech Announcement: Will Meta Really Fight Censorship?
    https://rumble.com/v676agv-zuckerber...ensorship.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 08 Janauary 2025}



    Facebook's Long History Of Censorship REVEALED
    https://rumble.com/v6779sy-facebooks...-revealed.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 08 Janauary 2025}



    Fact-Checkers MELT DOWN After Zuckerberg's Free Speech Announcement
    https://rumble.com/v67aiq4-fact-chec...ouncement.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 08 Janauary 2025}


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    Trump WINS Big Facebook Rolls Back Censorship
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF-0xmXnAZs
    {Actual Justice Warrior | 08 January 2025}

    In this video I talk about Mark Zuckerberg announcing that Facebook and all its platforms will follow X's lead and embrace free speech after Trump's victory.

    Sources:




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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Everybody is missing the obvious, I keep trying to tell you..

    Zuck, along with doing BJJ, started taking TRT. I'd bet a lot of money on it.

    TRT became a huge fad in the tech industry last year. I have a friend who got on it, absolutely hated Trump and had horrible TDS. His T levels turned out to be rock bottom. I bet my other friend he would be a Trump supporter within 6 months of starting TRT and vote for him. I was right, I even had the timeline right. It was 6 months almost to the day.

    The Democrat Party is the party of women and low T men. It's really that simple.
    I've been saying that forever. Although there are also men who are sociopaths and fraudsters who find a warm welcome among the Democrats too.
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
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    Musk's X platform is as locked down on speech as Twitter ever was during the height of censorship. Musk has created a less obvious means of suppressing speech, therefore it has less pushback than outright bans.

    Zuckerberg taking up this model is not a positive development. It really just means that they are becoming more sophisticated, and more effective, with their censorship.

    You will have "Freedom Of Speech, But Not Freedom Of Reach". In other words, you will be free to continue to yell at your TV, your computer, or your phone, but no one will hear you.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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    CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #386:

    Pro-Censorship Governments FUMING Over Zuckerberg Announcement
    https://rumble.com/v67x11d-pro-censo...ouncement.html
    {Glenn Greenwald | 10 January 2025}


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    Imagine being such a naive knucklehead that you buy into Zuck being on your side. Hasn't this exact fleecing scenario happened enough already? Elon, Trump, Vivek, countless others. Come on people.

    Fool me once, shame on you
    Fool me twice, shame on me.
    How many times are you gonna get played like a sucker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Sounded even genuine, maybe big Zuck is coming around? Maybe!

    It could of course be a move to get more right winger activity on the platform for NSA to spy on but whatever I'll take this as good news for now
    Libertarians have mad stockholm syndrome. Even Rogan's youtube comments are taking a massive dump on this technocratic con artist. These people HATE your guts and see you as easy marks. It's the most obvious and desperate ploy in the world. We are not even at inauguration and Elon has already waved the flag on DOGE achieving its targets no matter how you cope about it. Trump approves of h1bs/expansionism and there is an incredibly obvious inauthentic network of people on Twitter (Libs of Tik Tok, Ian Miles Cheong, Tim Pool, etc) who shill for this crap non stop.

    Seriously, why even give them faith? Their track records and continued disappointments speak for themselves. This isn't ''purity spiraling'', this is sniffing out snakes in the grass, and not the kind of ones you want to parade around on a flag. They are evil incarnate and just because the left is terrible doesn't mean any of these people deserve your time and optimism.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Seriously, why even give them faith? Their track records and continued disappointments speak for themselves. This isn't ''purity spiraling'', this is sniffing out snakes in the grass, and not the kind of ones you want to parade around on a flag. They are evil incarnate and just because the left is terrible doesn't mean any of these people deserve your time and optimism.
    I don't think you understand my perspective. I don't have faith in these guys purity or even their good intentions. I am simply glad that they are showing signs that they dont want to kill us and possibly may even align with our side when those that do want to kill us finally make their attempt on that intention.

    Put another way, as I've said before, we didn't win the American revolution because of the Ron Pauls and Thomas Massies of the world. We won the American revolution because of the Elon Musks, the Glenn Becks, and the Trumps of the world.

    Powerful people will always have their own agenda. But when push comes to shove there are only two sides in any conflict: those that want us dead, and those that don't. I am greatly appreciative for anyone who joins that latter side, regardless of whatever other agendas they may have.

    There is true evil in the world, and that is those who would use deadly force to enslave us. Anything short of that is forgivable human imperfections that we are all susceptible to.
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  27. #24
    Elon Musk and Donald Trump certainly are not today's Founding Fathers. Ron Paul and Thomas Massie have definitely done more to spread the name of liberty than Trump or Elon could ever dream of. They want you chipped and compliant. I am not trying to be cruel or mean or a negative nancy, I am just tired of the false hope continually perpetuated around these figures. Elon wants you dead just as much as Joe Biden. It's not a coincidence all these former Democrats switch sides when it's convenient.



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    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Elon wants you dead just as much as Joe Biden.
    I haven't seen any evidence of that. Elon has spoken in support of secession, which is an act of peace and the highest form of Liberty.

    It's people like Ramaswampy who I am concerned about, who have spoken against secession.

    I use secession as a litmus test, as the support of which, I view as the defining characteristic of Liberty.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Meta also ended all DEI practices.

    Sorry, folks. I know you're not used to positive steps, but these are positive steps.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

  31. #27

    https://x.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1878100259684921795
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by jct74 View Post
    40 seconds in and Zuck is spewing BS about how he only started the company to give people a voice. It was his "original mission".

    Yeah Zuck, your original mission was to steal ideas, screw over your partners, and make as much money as possible. Same as Bill Gates. Not that there is anything wrong with making money, but theft and screwing people over is wrong in a moral society.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    40 seconds in and Zuck is spewing BS about how he only started the company to give people a voice. It was his "original mission".

    Yeah Zuck, your original mission was to steal ideas, screw over your partners, and make as much money as possible. Same as Bill Gates. Not that there is anything wrong with making money, but theft and screwing people over is wrong in a moral society.
    Zuckerberg is clearly doing damage-control. However, I am a big believer in second chances, even for a billionaire who has every reason to know better and has every appearance that he was just running the odds until the bottom dropped out of his agenda. I hope he learns and changes. He started out very young, he's still young, and I hope he takes this chance to swallow his ego and reflect on why the world does not conform to his whims. Maybe somebody upstairs is trying to get a call through to him...
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  34. #30
    Damn, Zuck is on a tear lately. Eliminated the DEI program too.


    Meta orders removal of tampons in men's rooms amid Zuckerberg post-election shakeup: report
    Meta also announced changes to its fact-checking and DEI programs this week

    By Alexander Hall
    January 10, 2025

    Meta's massive overhaul of its internal and external policies this week reportedly included the removal of tampons from men's rooms, according to one report.

    CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced Tuesday that the company would be ending its controversial fact-checking practices and lifting restrictions on speech to "restore free expression" across Facebook, Instagram and Meta platforms, admitting its content moderation practices had "gone too far."

    By Friday, Meta had ended its major diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) programs.

    The New York Times reported on these changes Friday in a piece headlined, "Inside Mark Zuckerberg’s Sprint to Remake Meta for the Trump Era," warning, "The repercussions are just beginning."

    Along with removing transgender and nonbinary customization themes on its Messenger app and changing its "Hateful Conduct" policy to allow criticism of gender identity, the company took an active role in changing the corporate culture at the office, according to The Times.

    At "Meta’s offices in Silicon Valley, Texas and New York, facilities managers were instructed to remove tampons from men’s bathrooms, which the company had provided for nonbinary and transgender employees who use the men’s room and who may have required sanitary pads, two employees said," The Times reported.

    LGBTQ employees reportedly groused on internal resource channels, with at least one announcing a resignation, while others said they would look for new jobs.

    ...
    https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/me...shakeup-report


    What a headline.

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