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    Musk promotes Ron's call to end the Fed

    Ron Paul @ronpaul
    We should wean ourselves off The Fed, like we weaned ourselves off the mainstream media.
    https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1868716946335863274




    Elon Musk

    @elonmusk
    Yes!! Ron Paul ftw
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1868948521375908249

    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

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    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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    Don't trust that pathetic leech Musk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Don't trust that pathetic leech Musk.
    Ok but this is based.
    "An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped by any army or any government" - Ron Paul.

    "To learn who rules over you simply find out who you arent allowed to criticize."

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    Quote Originally Posted by unknown View Post
    Ok but this is based.
    Just because he says one "based" thing doesn't mean he is "based". Elon is as slimy and two-faced as they come and is simply stringing along libertarians by namedropping Ron Paul. Him, Vivek, and Vance are some of the most blatant grifters I've ever come across. Read into their backgrounds and their histories.

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Just because he says one "based" thing doesn't mean he is "based". Elon is as slimy and two-faced as they come and is simply stringing along libertarians by namedropping Ron Paul. Him, Vivek, and Vance are some of the most blatant grifters I've ever come across. Read into their backgrounds and their histories.
    You might want to do some research before you embarrass yourself again.

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Intrepid View Post
    You might want to do some research before you embarrass yourself again.
    Embarrass??? There is more than enough information and On the Record if one takes the time to research. Here is one, for example:

    Vivek Ramaswamy On The Record

    James Corbett, Whitney Webb and Catherine Austin Fitts have talked about Elon, Thiel, Swampy and Vance, many of which I have reposted on this forum.


    Here is some in-depth for those who want to know more:

    Selection 2024 with James Corbett and Whitney Webb

    Discussion about the election, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Peter Thiel, Javier Milei, WEF, U.N., Technocratic Society and Global/Regional Governance, sucking in libertarians, and more.
    Last edited by PAF; 12-18-2024 at 09:29 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Just because he says one "based" thing doesn't mean he is "based". Elon is as slimy and two-faced as they come and is simply stringing along libertarians by namedropping Ron Paul. Him, Vivek, and Vance are some of the most blatant grifters I've ever come across. Read into their backgrounds and their histories.
    To what end? This makes no sense at all. They have nothing to gain by impressing libertarians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    To what end? This makes no sense at all. They have nothing to gain by impressing libertarians.

    Matt, review the information in Post #6.


    For example: The "left" use terms such as Climate Change and ESG, the "right" use terms such as Sustainable Investing, Climate Finance and Carbon Market/Sequestration.
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    You're so $#@!ing gullible.

    Where do you think his mars mission subsidy money is going to come from?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    To what end?
    To what end, indeed. That is a very important question that should be asked and answered before reaching conclusions about Musk's intentions.

    What does he propose in place of the Fed? And who benefits from whatever this is?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  13. #11
    LMFAO.

    Libertarians - Snatching Defeat From The Jaws of Victory Since 1971
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    LMFAO.

    Libertarians - Snatching Defeat From The Jaws of Victory Since 1971
    Yeah, it's sickening.

    In 2012, if we had Ron Paul's message being amplified like this, we would have been ecstatic. I have very low expectations that anything significant will actually get cut or any major changes taking place because of DOGE, but just the fact that this is in the conversation is a win. And these Debbie Downers don't get it.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, it's sickening.

    In 2012, if we had Ron Paul's message being amplified like this, we would have been ecstatic. I have very low expectations that anything significant will actually get cut or any major changes taking place because of DOGE, but just the fact that this is in the conversation is a win. And these Debbie Downers don't get it.
    Unless and until everybody is ready to "cry havoc" and raise the Black Flag, this is the only option we have, slowly eroding this edifice over years and years of nasty political work.

    The fact that we've gone from the "Lunatic Fringe" to now holding many levers of the system's control and having the establishment on the ropes, in a matter of 16 years (Ron's first run) is, frankly, amazing.

    Indeed, around the world, as most of the West falls into some nightmare dystopia of queeer communism, there are bright lights appearing as populist, libertarian, nationalist and anti-establishment freedom folks of all different stripes rise to prominence.

    Keep pushing forward and let bitchers and hanky wringers be left behind.

    I like to say this whole thing started 50 years ago in efforts to push back gun control. My God look at the progress made there...when I started in all this, a national ban on handguns was close to being enacted. Now take a look.

    The future forward is not to back down but to triple down.

    Firearms Policy Coalition > NRA

    https://x.com/gunpolicy/status/1868808270183362911

    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 12-18-2024 at 12:04 PM.
    The whole narrative is absurd on its face - at the same time the USA was both founded on White supremacy, slavery, and genocide, yet always meant to be a place that infinity Africans, Indians, and South Americans could come for a "better life"? - Unknown

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, it's sickening.

    In 2012, if we had Ron Paul's message being amplified like this, we would have been ecstatic. I have very low expectations that anything significant will actually get cut or any major changes taking place because of DOGE, but just the fact that this is in the conversation is a win. And these Debbie Downers don't get it.
    What is a Debbie Downer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    What is a Debbie Downer?
    https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=debbie+downer
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, it's sickening.

    In 2012, if we had Ron Paul's message being amplified like this, we would have been ecstatic. I have very low expectations that anything significant will actually get cut or any major changes taking place because of DOGE, but just the fact that this is in the conversation is a win. And these Debbie Downers don't get it.
    For the record, speaking for myself, I am ecstatic to see Ron Paul's message amplified this way. I hope it continues.

    I also want to know what's in the fine print.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)



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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    What is a Debbie Downer?
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Embarrass??? There is more than enough information and On the Record if one takes the time to research. Here is one, for example:

    Vivek Ramaswamy On The Record

    James Corbett, Whitney Webb and Catherine Austin Fitts have talked about Elon, Thiel, Swampy and Vance, many of which I have reposted on this forum.


    Here is some in-depth for those who want to know more:
    Selection 2024 with James Corbett and Whitney Webb

    Discussion about the election, Donald Trump, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Peter Thiel, Javier Milei, WEF, U.N., Technocratic Society and Global/Regional Governance, sucking in libertarians, and more.
    You sir, are no lover of liberty.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Yeah, it's sickening.

    In 2012, if we had Ron Paul's message being amplified like this, we would have been ecstatic. I have very low expectations that anything significant will actually get cut or any major changes taking place because of DOGE, but just the fact that this is in the conversation is a win. And these Debbie Downers don't get it.
    If it was Dick Cheney doing the amplifying in 2012, you would have said "where's the catch" and not "ohhhh boy he's coming around!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If it was Dick Cheney doing the amplifying in 2012, you would have said "where's the catch" and not "ohhhh boy he's coming around!"
    Hey dip$#@!... You can change the situation anyway you want to make it better for your argument, but that didn't and wouldn't have happened. Is this some kind of Sam Harris, "If everything were different with the pandemic, I would have been right" type of thing??
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Is this some kind of Sam Harris, "If everything were different with the pandemic, I would have been right" type of thing??
    "... [if] bodies of kids [were] being stacked up in parks ..."

    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/ComicDaveSmith/s...15395751378944

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Hey dip$#@!... You can change the situation anyway you want to make it better for your argument, but that didn't and wouldn't have happened. Is this some kind of Sam Harris, "If everything were different with the pandemic, I would have been right" type of thing??
    How would the situation need to change in any way?

    People whose entire livelihood depends on federal reserve debt claim to be interested in abolishing the federal reserve.

    And you're like "oh boy they're turning over a new leaf!"

    No, you're being conned.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Collins View Post
    To what end? This makes no sense at all. They have nothing to gain by impressing libertarians.
    Votes and goodwill. They didn't cater so hard to libertarians late in the last election cycle if they had nothing to gain.

  27. #24
    Being critical of the people namedropping Ron Paul or libertarian stuff is not "self-sabotage" or "libertarian self-defeat", because what do they really lose from critique? It isn't stopping the "end the fed" message from being spread and I'm sure maybe Ron Paul gets new fans from this. He and others are critiqued because people like Musk are quite literally for UBI, a carbon tax, transhumanism, etc. He is not someone to be blindly trusted. A month ago those people were making a big deal about how they're going to fight Trump to not put warmongers and neocons in the cabinet, and what does he do? He puts warmongers and neocons in his cabinet and Elon Musk/JD Vance endorse it 100%.

    Noticing this and critiquing this is not having a crabs in a bucket mentality. None of us are going up and saying "NO! DON'T END THE FED! DON'T IMPLEMENT LIBERTARIAN POLICIES!". We are warning you of the very strong inevitability that you are being strung along (again). This is yet another repeat of the failure of Fusionism.



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  29. #25
    Won't happen but at least its nice to see Ron getting some deserved spotlight.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by FineSpeech View Post
    Don't trust that pathetic leech Musk.
    Of course not, but we can use him.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    To what end, indeed. That is a very important question that should be asked and answered before reaching conclusions about Musk's intentions.

    What does he propose in place of the Fed? And who benefits from whatever this is?
    And for Elon's next trick he will make Ron Paul Forums defend the Fed against Ron Paul.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    And for Elon's next trick he will make Ron Paul Forums defend the Fed against Ron Paul.
    When he proposes to replace it with an even worse alternative, you mean.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    When he proposes to replace it with an even worse alternative, you mean.
    Ron proposed an even worse alternative?
    Because Musk only supported what Ron said.

    Don't expect anyone else to listen to the voices in your head.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  34. #30
    Yes, clearly Elon is up to something nefarious when he was agreeing with Ron Paul.

    It's obviously another one of his dirty tricks
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