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    Question Who holds the US government's debt?

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    All of it but 22 percent is on american citizens( fed) , american financial institutions, pension funds , insurance companies etc which is why youve been experiencing third world inflation
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    And I still don't understand why default isn't the best long term option to deal with it.
    WHAT THE F*** DID YOU THINK​ WAS GOING TO HAPPEN???

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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    And I still don't understand why default isn't the best long term option to deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    And I still don't understand why default isn't the best long term option to deal with it.
    Because then they couldn't borrow even more in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fisharmor View Post
    And I still don't understand why default isn't the best long term option to deal with it.
    I suppose you may maintain Social Sec , medicare and some sort of navy and eliminate all remaining fed govt and do it because itd need to be balanced budget after
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    Can someone explain how the $7T of intragovernmental debt works?

    Shouldn't that be a net zero, where there's a negative on the ledger of one agency that is a positive on the ledger of another agency?

    What would happen if the federal government just forgave itself of that debt? Would the national debt instantly go down by $7T?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Can someone explain how the $7T of intragovernmental debt works?

    Shouldn't that be a net zero, where there's a negative on the ledger of one agency that is a positive on the ledger of another agency?

    What would happen if the federal government just forgave itself of that debt? Would the national debt instantly go down by $7T?
    Up two trillion from decade ago . All in trust govt funds , accounting . So no I dont imagine so because it would need to be in budget from said agencies, 38 maybe percent owed to social sec ( about 2.6 trillion) , one of few programs actually tax pd, same w/ most , gas tax funds for rds , medicare funds, and federal pensions. Actually it is 7 trillion needing to be added to unfundedliabilities since stolen from funded liabilities
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Can someone explain how the $7T of intragovernmental debt works?

    Shouldn't that be a net zero, where there's a negative on the ledger of one agency that is a positive on the ledger of another agency?

    What would happen if the federal government just forgave itself of that debt? Would the national debt instantly go down by $7T?
    Up two trillion from decade ago . All in trust govt funds , accounting . So no I dont imagine so because it would need to be in budget from said agencies, 38 maybe percent owed to social sec ( about 2.6 trillion) , one of few programs actually tax pd, same w/ most , gas tax funds for rds , medicare funds, and federal pensions monies Actually it is 7 trillion needing to be added to unfunded liabilities since stolen from funded liabilities , I guess it was stolen and diverted to israel , ukraine , bidens , obamas solyndra, killing oil leases , f a g s and UnAmerican activities.Certainly no noble cause like giving me a .50 Cal and .30 Cal MGs and a couple BARS
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