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    Curtis Yarvin


    Curtis Guy Yarvin (born 1973), also known by the pen name Mencius Moldbug, is an American blogger. He is known, along with philosopher Nick Land, for founding the anti-egalitarian and anti-democratic philosophical movement known as the Dark Enlightenment or neo-reactionary movement (NRx).

    In his blog Unqualified Reservations, which he wrote from 2007 to 2014, and on his later Substack page called Gray Mirror, which he started in 2020, he argues that American democracy is a failed experiment that should be replaced by an accountable monarchy, similar to the governance structure of corporations. Yarvin has been described as a "neo-reactionary" and "neo-monarchist" who "sees liberalism as creating a Matrix-like totalitarian system, and who wants to replace American democracy with a techno-monarchy".

    In 2002, Yarvin began work on a personal software project that eventually became the Urbit networked computing platform. In 2013, he co-founded the company Tlon to oversee the Urbit project and helped lead it until 2019.

    Curtis Yarvin has had influence on prominent political figures. Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work. Vice-president elect JD Vance has cited Yarvin as an influence.

    Curtis Guy Yarvin was born in 1973 to an educated, liberal, secular family. His grandparents on his father's side were Jewish American and communists. His father, Herbert Yarvin, worked for the US government as a foreign service officer, and his mother was a Protestant from Westchester County. In 1985, he returned to the US and entered Johns Hopkins' longitudinal Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth. He graduated from Brown University in 1992, then was a graduate student of a computer science PhD program at UC Berkeley, before dropping out after a year and a half to join a tech company.


    Urbit

    In 2002, Yarvin founded the Urbit computer platform as a decentralized network of personal servers. In 2013 he co-founded the San Francisco-based company Tlön Corp to build out Urbit further with funding from Peter Thiel's venture capital arm, the Founders Fund. In 2016, Yarvin was invited to present on the functional programming aspects of Urbit at LambdaConf 2016, which resulted in the withdrawal of five speakers, two sub-conferences, and several sponsors. Yarvin left Tlön in January 2019, but retains some intellectual and financial involvement in the development of Urbit.

    Yarvin's reading of Thomas Carlyle convinced him that libertarianism was a doomed project without the inclusion of authoritarianism.


    In 2007, Yarvin began the blog Unqualified Reservations to promote his political vision. In an early blog post, he adapted a phrase from the movie The Matrix, repurposing "red pill" to mean a shattering of progressive illusions. He largely stopped updating his blog in 2013, when he began to focus on Urbit; in April 2016 he announced that Unqualified Reservations had "completed its mission".

    As of 2022, Yarvin blogs his views on Substack under the page name Gray Mirror.


    Dark Enlightenment

    Yarvin believes that real political power in the United States is held by something he calls "the Cathedral", an informal amalgam of universities and the mainstream press, which collude to sway public opinion. According to him, a so-called "Brahmin" social class (in reference to the Brahmin class of India's caste system and the American Boston Brahmin) dominates American society, preaching progressive values to the masses. The socio-religious analogy originates from Yarvin's opinion that the progressive ideology of the Cathedral is delivered to and internalized by the general populace much in the same way religious dogma is delivered by religious authorities and institutions to fanatical worshippers. Yarvin and the Dark Enlightenment (sometimes abbreviated to "NRx") movement assert that the Cathedral's commitment to equality and justice erodes social order. He advocates an American 'monarch' dissolving elite academic institutions and media outlets within the first few months of their reign.

    Drawing on computer metaphors, Yarvin contends that society needs a "hard reset" or a "rebooting", not a series of gradual political reforms. Instead of activism, he advocates passivism, claiming that progressivism would fail without right-wing opposition. According to him, NRx adherents should rather design "new architectures of exit" than engage in ineffective political activism.

    Yarvin argues for a "neo-cameralist" philosophy based on Frederick the Great of Prussia's cameralism. In Yarvin's view, democratic governments are inefficient and wasteful and should be replaced with sovereign joint-stock corporations whose "shareholders" (large owners) elect an executive with total power, but who must serve at their pleasure. The executive, unencumbered by liberal-democratic procedures, could rule efficiently much like a CEO-monarch. Yarvin admires Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping for his pragmatic and market-oriented authoritarianism, and the city-state of Singapore as an example of a successful authoritarian regime. He sees the US as soft on crime, dominated by economic and democratic delusions.

    Yarvin supports authoritarianism on right-libertarian grounds, claiming that the division of political sovereignty expands the scope of the state, whereas strong governments with clear hierarchies remain minimal and narrowly focused. According to scholar Joshua Tait, "Moldbug imagines a radical libertarian utopia with maximum freedom in all things except politics." He has favored same-sex marriage, freedom of religion, and private use of drugs, and has written against race- or gender-based discriminatory laws, although, according to Tait, "he self-consciously proposed private welfare and prison reforms that resembled slavery". Tait describes Yarvin's writing as contradictory, saying: "He advocates hierarchy, yet deeply resents cultural elites. His political vision is futuristic and libertarian, yet expressed in the language of monarchy and reaction. He is irreligious and socially liberal on many issues but angrily anti-progressive. He presents himself as a thinker in search of truth but admits to lying to his readers, saturating his arguments with jokes and irony. These tensions indicate broader fissures among the online Right."

    Under his Moldbug pseudonym, Yarvin gave a talk about "rebooting" the American government at the 2012 BIL Conference. He used it to advocate the acronym "RAGE", which he defined as "Retire All Government Employees". He described what he felt were flaws in the accepted "World War II mythology" alluding to the idea that Hitler's invasions were acts of self-defense. He argued these discrepancies were pushed by America's "ruling communists", who invented political correctness as an "extremely elaborate mechanism for persecuting racists and fascists". "If Americans want to change their government," he said, "they're going to have to get over their dictator phobia."

    Yarvin's ideas have been influential among right-libertarians and paleolibertarians, and the public discourses of prominent investors like Peter Thiel have echoed Yarvin's project of seceding from the United States to establish tech-CEO dictatorships. Political strategist Steve Bannon has read and admired his work.[11] Vice-president-elect JD Vance has cited Yarvin as an influence.

    According to Tait, "Moldbug's relationship with the investor-entrepreneur Thiel is his most important connection." Thiel was an investor in Yarvin's startup Tlon and gave $100,000 to Tlon's co-founder John Burnham in 2011. In 2016, Yarvin privately asserted to Milo Yiannopoulos that he had been "coaching Thiel" and that he had watched the 2016 US election at Thiel's house.


    Investor Balaji Srinivasan has also echoed Yarvin's ideas of techno-corporate cameralism. He advocated in a 2013 speech a "society run by Silicon Valley [...] an opt-in society, ultimately outside the US, run by technology."

    Yarvin came to public attention in February 2017 when Politico magazine reported that Steve Bannon, who served as White House Chief Strategist under U.S. President Donald Trump, read Yarvin's blog and that Yarvin "has reportedly opened up a line to the White House, communicating with Bannon and his aides through an intermediary."



    Links within are in the source:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin


    See also:

    Authoritarian capitalism

    Dark Enlightenment


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    Mises Institute

    An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)

    The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)



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    You really should have posted this thread to GenPol since his philosophy is so integral to Trump admin Cabinet appointee's goals. It's getting no attention buried in this subforum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You really should have posted this thread to GenPol since his philosophy is so integral to Trump admin Cabinet appointee's goals. It's getting no attention buried in this subforum.
    You’re right and I’ll do that the next time, though, threads like this like to be pushed to the bottom anyway for some strange reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    You really should have posted this thread to GenPol since his philosophy is so integral to Trump admin Cabinet appointee's goals. It's getting no attention buried in this subforum.
    You’re right and I’ll do that the next time, though, threads like this like to be pushed to the bottom anyway for some strange reason.
    It's already in the correct place.

    The "U.S. Political News" (formerly "General Politics") subforum is not a dumping ground for anything that can be construed to impinge upon current events in some way or another. If that were the case, then just about everything that gets posted at RPFs would go there, and the resulting "forum sliding" would ensure that items like this would just end up getting "lost in the shuffle" anyway - only it would happen even faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    You’re right and I’ll do that the next time, though, threads like this like to be pushed to the bottom anyway for some strange reason.
    Yep, too much real info so one of the commandeered shill accounts quickly necros and spams up old threads with clickbait vids and prepackaged posts or creates new pointless threads to forum slide the real info away from any fresh attention. It's so tiresome but I think most non-paid/non-shill visitors here see through it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    It's already in the correct place.

    The "U.S. Political News" (formerly "General Politics") subforum is not a dumping ground for anything that can be construed to impinge upon current events in some way or another. If that were the case, then just about everything that gets posted at RPFs would go there, and the resulting "forum sliding" would ensure that items like this would just end up getting "lost in the shuffle" anyway - only it would happen even faster.
    Actually, Yarvin is extremely influential with the Paypal Mafia, who is now essentially in control of the Trump admin. You don't think that's a very relevant topic for newsworthy general political discussion? It is, after all, integral to much of the "news" posted in the subforum.

    This write-up lays it out well and it's almost exactly what MAGA 2.0 is promising:
    https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/08...ncius-moldbug/
    Last edited by devil21; 12-13-2024 at 03:37 PM.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "...it is indispensable to trouble in all countries the people’s relations with their governments so as to utterly exhaust humanity with dissension, hatred, struggle, envy and even by the use of torture, by starvation, by the inoculation of diseases, by want, so that they see no other issue than to take refuge in our complete sovereignty in money and in all else."- A Quote From Some Old Book ----- > iow, pick your deadly sin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    Actually, Yarvin is extremely influential with the Paypal Mafia, who is now essentially in control of the Trump admin. You don't think that's a very relevant topic for newsworthy general political discussion?
    Even assuming it is true that "Yarvin is extremely influential with the Paypal Mafia, who is now essentially in control of the Trump admin", it is still more a matter of general "Political Philosophy & Government Policy" than of some specific and particular current event or action. It might provide important or significant theoretical or suppositional context for "the news", but it is not "the news" itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    It is, after all, integral to much of the "news" posted in the subforum.
    As I previously said, if "anything that can be construed to impinge upon current events in some way or another" is therefore to go in "U.S. Political News", then "just about everything that gets posted at RPFs would go there". One of the main reasons for the existence of distinct and separate subforums is to avoid the negative consequences of over-generality (such as topical incoherence, the inevitable "forum sliding" inherent in having just "one big sand pile" of posts, etc.).



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