Graves to lead FEMA

[Matt Collins]

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[Bern]

Weird that I read the thread title as "Graves lead to FEMA" and thought, "that tracks".

[fisharmor]

Oh look, yet another "if they were serious about DOGE they wouldn't even bother with this" appointment

[TheCount]

Oh look, yet another "if they were serious about DOGE they wouldn't even bother with this" appointment

Trump's base relies on FEMA

[Snowball]

seems solid

[fisharmor]

Trump's base relies on FEMA

Then they're more ready to trash it than I am.

The reports of FEMA incompetence have been pouring in for the last 19 years at least since Katrina. I haven't heard a single "thank God FEMA was there to help" story.

[PAF]

Then they're more ready to trash it than I am.

The reports of FEMA incompetence have been pouring in for the last 19 years at least since Katrina. I haven't heard a single "thank God FEMA was there to help" story.

What I have learned and recognized; people do not turn down "free" anything, or a sense of "security" [false or otherwise], even at the tremendous cost of liberty. What matters in the end is that "their" team did it, and not the "evil other side". It can't be any more crystal clear than this.

[TheCount]

Then they're more ready to trash it than I am.

The reports of FEMA incompetence have been pouring in for the last 19 years at least since Katrina. I haven't heard a single "thank God FEMA was there to help" story.

You're thinking of FEMA as trucks full of bottled water.

You should be thinking of FEMA as truckloads of cash that primarily subsidizes the economies of southern states. Almost $50 billion this year.

[Swordsmyth]

Oh look, yet another "if they were serious about DOGE they wouldn't even bother with this" appointment

This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Trump needs to put his people in these positions to facilitate shrinking or destroying the agencies, they have to get in there and drag the skeletons out of the closet to facilitate executive firing and Congressional disbanding.

[TheCount]

Trump needs to put his people in these positions to facilitate shrinking or destroying the agencies, they have to get in there and drag the skeletons out of the closet to facilitate executive firing and Congressional disbanding.

The unending mantra of Swordy:

- More government yields less government
- More war yields less war
- More spending yields less spending
- More policing yields less policing

[Invisible Man]

You're thinking of FEMA as trucks full of bottled water.

You should be thinking of FEMA as truckloads of cash that primarily subsidizes the economies of southern states. Almost $50 billion this year.

That's a raw deal for them. They'd be better off keeping their share of the tax dollars that are funding that, even if their share is only $30 billion to spend however they want, instead of $50 billion that has to be spent the way the feds want it spent.

Granted, you're probably still right that the people and local politicians in those states who make up Trump's base probably don't understand that.

[Swordsmyth]

That's a raw deal for them. They'd be better off keeping their share of the tax dollars that are funding that, even if their share is only $30 billion to spend however they want, instead of $50 billion that has to be spent the way the feds want it spent.

Granted, you're probably still right that the people and local politicians in those states who make up Trump's base probably don't understand that.

They know it very well, and you betray your Champaign socialist culture by assuming otherwise.

[RJB]

That's a raw deal for them. They'd be better off keeping their share of the tax dollars that are funding that, even if their share is only $30 billion to spend however they want, instead of $50 billion that has to be spent the way the feds want it spent.

A good portion of the people in the Helene hit area are unemployed, homeless, etc. They'd like some of their money back. It is a raw deal. They know it, but that is reality and how the game is played. People are desperate. They are reaching for any help they can get. You really have no feel for the pulse of this nation.

Granted, you're probably still right that the people and local politicians in those states who make up Trump's base probably don't understand that.

I will just point this out, your prejudice and constant generalizations against red state Americans rivals and surpasses that of your nemesis AF's dislike of immigrants. You have just chosen a more politically correct group of people to dislike.

[Invisible Man]

A good portion of the people in the Helene hit area are unemployed, homeless, etc. They'd like some of their money back. It is a raw deal. They know it, but that is reality and how the game is played. People are desperate. They are reaching for any help they can get. You really have no feel for the pulse of this nation.



I will just point this out, your prejudice and constant generalizations against red state Americans rivals and surpasses that of your nemesis AF's dislike of immigrants. You have just chosen a more politically correct group of people to dislike.

I have no prejudice against red state Americans. I am one myself.

Edit: Notice how your first paragraph in this post expresses the exact thing that I attributed to people which you called prejudice and generalizations against them. Somehow, when you say the same thing, its not prejudice and generalizations against them. And somehow when I say the very thing that you do about them, for me it means that I have no feel for the pulse of the nation.

[RJB]

I have no prejudice against red state Americans. I am one myself.

Of course. I'm sure some of your best friends are (fill in the blank). If that's true, you should get out and meet your neighbors.

[Invisible Man]

They know it very well

Oh really?

See post #13.

[RJB]

I have no prejudice against red state Americans. I am one myself.

Edit: Notice how your first paragraph in this post expresses the exact thing that I attributed to people which you called prejudice and generalizations against them. Somehow, when you say the same thing, its not prejudice and generalizations against them. And somehow when I say the very thing that you do about them, for me it means that I have no feel for the pulse of the nation.

Whatever, prof.

[Swordsmyth]

Oh really?

See post #13.

Proves nothing.
Of course the people who have been robbed would like some of it back in their time of need.
But they have always wanted to end the robbery.

[Swordsmyth]

I have no prejudice against red state Americans. I am one myself.

Right, you live in a deep blue colony and try to help turn the state blue.

[CCTelander]

This is why nobody takes you seriously.
Trump needs to put his people in these positions to facilitate shrinking or destroying the agencies, they have to get in there and drag the skeletons out of the closet to facilitate executive firing and Congressional disbanding.

It’s precious watching YOU try to tell your betters that nobody takes THEM seriously!

Carry on.

[TheCount]

That's a raw deal for them. They'd be better off keeping their share of the tax dollars that are funding that, even if their share is only $30 billion to spend however they want, instead of $50 billion that has to be spent the way the feds want it spent.

Granted, you're probably still right that the people and local politicians in those states who make up Trump's base probably don't understand that.

Nearly all of the affected areas receive vastly more from the federal government than they pay in taxes.

[Invisible Man]

Nearly all of the affected areas receive vastly more from the federal government than they pay in taxes.

Did you not see how I explicitly addressed that precise point in the words that you quoted?

[RJB]

Nearly all of the affected areas receive vastly more from the federal government than they pay in taxes.

Did you not see how I explicitly addressed that precise point in the words that you quoted?

Yeah, red states are as fortunate as Ukraine with the Federal bounty!

Seriously, like foreign aid, it's mostly corporate welfare. Other than that the only ones collecting are illegals, bureaucrats, academics and other out of touch bums.

[Anti Globalist]

FEMA has always failed people and it always will.

[TheCount]

Yeah, red states are as fortunate as Ukraine with the Federal bounty!

Seriously, like foreign aid, it's mostly corporate welfare. Other than that the only ones collecting are illegals, bureaucrats, academics and other out of touch bums.

Perhaps consider where all of our military bases are located.

[TheCount]

Did you not see how I explicitly addressed that precise point in the words that you quoted?

Yeah I'm not quite sure how I misread that to be honest.

[RJB]

Perhaps consider where all of our military bases are located.

Yeah. The corporate military industrial complex benefits from that. Around military bases, that filters down to bars and strip clubs. I think we're mostly in agreement here.

[TheCount]

Yeah. The corporate military industrial complex benefits from that. Around military bases, that filters down to bars and strip clubs. I think we're mostly in agreement here.

And then the space program...